Hiroshima?

[KenoshaWarrior]

Most of these rumors are stemming from Buzz Williams' supposed unhappiness with the administration which is now gone.

[melissasmooth]

No.  More money here, everything is built for him... If you really think the pressure is high here, you need to get off of the boards more.  I'd wager that unless Buzz missed the NCAA Tournament 3 years in a row with no hopes of getting back on the horizon he would be pressured.  As long as he keeps making the tourney, there is no other pressure.  Some fans around here probably should be a bit more realistic.  This is a great job, and the only reason a coach should leave is for a top tier program.

You are correct the pressure is not high here. That's the thing, Buzz seemed to be a little thin-skinned this year for the little amount of pressure he received.

[jsglow]

I'm not sure why people in this thread are so dismissive of Buzz leaving Marquette. Given his job history, he likely had itchy feet two years ago.

Tech is a dumpster fire of a program but has a beautiful campus and is southern manners by nature (well, other then Cho). Plus, they'll be buried in the ACC for the near future and could provide Buzz with the no pressure, low expectations employment he seems to crave.

Wrong about Buzz on so many levels it's not worth enumerating.  

[melissasmooth]

Most of these rumors are stemming from Buzz Williams' supposed unhappiness with the administration which is now gone.

Yeah and I think I read where Feinstein actually made reference to that unhappiness, which was two years ago, so I wouldn't put much stock in what Feinstein said on the radio today if he doesn't even know that Larry Williams doesn't work here anymore.

[Golden Avalanche]

No.  More money here, everything is built for him... If you really think the pressure is high here, you need to get off of the boards more.  I'd wager that unless Buzz missed the NCAA Tournament 3 years in a row with no hopes of getting back on the horizon he would be pressured.  As long as he keeps making the tourney, there is no other pressure.  Some fans around here probably should be a bit more realistic.  This is a great job, and the only reason a coach should leave is for a top tier program.

Where did I write the pressure was high at Marquette?

[Goose]

I would never dismiss a guy leaving for a new start and lower short term expectations. Buzz had no pressure this season, yet he felt some heat. Next season the pressure is on for both his career and program if he remains here.

Biggest disappointment to me is over last couple of years we have had 3 VERY high level recruits in backyard and were not even close on two of them. Not sure if reflection on Buzz or the program. Understand guys wanting to leave town but we were not close on either one of these two guys.

[Hards Alumni]

Where did I write the pressure was high at Marquette?

You didn't, it was a general reply.

[4everwarriors]

Plus, there's so many high major recruits comin' outta Virginia, hey?

[wadesworld]

I would never dismiss a guy leaving for a new start and lower short term expectations. Buzz had no pressure this season, yet he felt some heat. Next season the pressure is on for both his career and program if he remains here.

Biggest disappointment to me is over last couple of years we have had 3 VERY high level recruits in backyard and were not even close on two of them. Not sure if reflection on Buzz or the program. Understand guys wanting to leave town but we were not close on either one of these two guys.

Are you talking about Tokoto as one of them? Who are the 3? Looney...? Tokoto, the guy who was ranked about 5 spots higher in the recruiting rankings than 2 local freshman on our roster this year? And ranked lower than a local 2015 recruit we have committed? And once rankings come out for 2017 will most likely be ranked lower than another local commit we have? If you're talking elite elite then we missed on Looney who we have known for years wasn't staying local. If not then we have locked up a number of local stars. Who else make up the 3?

[Goose]

Wadesworld

The third is Stone. If Buzz were to strike out on all three it would be a blow to him I am sure. I appreciate the refresher course on recruit rankings, but not sure what that has to do with anything. I can speak with some personal experiences on how hard coaches take missing out on target recruits and it can be a game changer for careers. Missing out on certain recruits is tougher than loss in many cases to a HC.

[4everwarriors]

No inside info whatsoever, but Stone's commitment is definitely not a given. Don't care who may argue otherwise.

[GOO]

I wouldn't blame Buzz if he left.  Three incredible season in a row and now one poor season (not even horrible) and look at the attitudes on this board.  Look at his second year and how he was able to win.  Kept MU in the NCAA's every season until now... a great, great run.  Second best in MU history!

I've lost a lot of respect for too many Marquette fans, at least the one's with little perspective (I am aware that a lot of these people are UW trolls posting on here), but too many are actual Marquette fans.  

Plus, not knowing who your boss will be and who your boss's boss will be doesn't help.  I hope he is close to a lot of board members who have his back and let him know it.

Add in the terrible winter, and maybe he is ready to head out.  He will probably feel different in June, but after this season, this winter and the "turning" of too many "fans" with little perspective, who knows?

I doubt he leaves, but I'd understand it now, better than ever and could see him go.

[4everwarriors]

Are Greenberg's daughters still at Virginia Tech? That could be the decidin' factor, aina?
Pagin' Crash to chime in.

[MUfan12]

I wouldn't blame Buzz if he left.  Three incredible season in a row and now one poor season (not even horrible) and look at the attitudes on this board.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I wouldn't blame Buzz if he left.  Three incredible season in a row and now one poor season (not even horrible) and look at the attitudes on this board.  Look at his second year and how he was able to win.  Kept MU in the NCAA's every season until now... a great, great run.  Second best in MU history!

I've lost a lot of respect for too many Marquette fans, at least the one's with little perspective (I am aware that a lot of these people are UW trolls posting on here), but too many are actual Marquette fans.  

Plus, not knowing who your boss will be and who your boss's boss will be doesn't help.  I hope he is close to a lot of board members who have his back and let him know it.

Add in the terrible winter, and maybe he is ready to head out.  He will probably feel different in June, but after this season, this winter and the "turning" of too many "fans" with little perspective, who knows?

I doubt he leaves, but I'd understand it now, better than ever and could see him go.

It's all about expectations.  If MU was picked to finish 6th and we finished 6th because we lost 4 1000 point scorers or went up in class in a new league, etc, then that is understandable.  Exepectations tie into it.  The more you win, the higher the expectations, human nature.

Do you think if he had repeated what he did at MU at another school and was then picked to win the league but failed to make the NIT some fans of that school would be miffed?  Of course they would.  Doesn't matter where he goes in this country, what school, that would be the reaction.

Now let's look at it in real terms. The guy is loved at MU, they have bent over backwards for him to the point of even eliminating his bosses.  If Buzz thinks people are on him or out to get him at MU then he should really hang it up and go into television.  He has it great at MU, a high major program, paid very well and the pressures are there but not anywhere to the level they are at other schools in the same position. 

[T.V. Diener 34]

It's all about expectations.  If MU was picked to finish 6th and we finished 6th because we lost 4 1000 point scorers or went up in class in a new league, etc, then that is understandable.  Exepectations tie into it.  The more you win, the higher the expectations, human nature.

Do you think if he had repeated what he did at MU at another school and was then picked to win the league but failed to make the NIT some fans of that school would be miffed?  Of course they would.  Doesn't matter where he goes in this country, what school, that would be the reaction.

Now let's look at it in real terms. The guy is loved at MU, they have bent over backwards for him to the point of even eliminating his bosses.  If Buzz thinks people are on him or out to get him at MU then he should really hang it up and go into television.  He has it great at MU, a high major program, paid very well and the pressures are there but not anywhere to the level they are at other schools in the same position. 

[GOO]

It's all about expectations.  If MU was picked to finish 6th and we finished 6th because we lost 4 1000 point scorers or went up in class in a new league, etc, then that is understandable.  Exepectations tie into it.  The more you win, the higher the expectations, human nature.

Do you think if he had repeated what he did at MU at another school and was then picked to win the league but failed to make the NIT some fans of that school would be miffed?  Of course they would.  Doesn't matter where he goes in this country, what school, that would be the reaction.

Now let's look at it in real terms. The guy is loved at MU, they have bent over backwards for him to the point of even eliminating his bosses.  If Buzz thinks people are on him or out to get him at MU then he should really hang it up and go into television.  He has it great at MU, a high major program, paid very well and the pressures are there but not anywhere to the level they are at other schools in the same position. 

I think you're correct Chicos.  Just putting it out there that the perspective of too many "fans" is way to short (as in a few weeks, is my guess).  I guess I am disappointed and have been for much of the season in the reaction of the "fans."  Buzz bought a lot of leeway in my book, based upon what he has done at MU.

Expectations, for me, really don't factor into it a lot.  Kind of like polls for elections.  If the expectations are wrong, they are just wrong.  Reality is what counts, as you know. Many of us knew what we had at the 1 and 2 positions going in and the issues.  If one's expectations were wrong, then obviously they must adjust to reality, not the other way around.

[Hards Alumni]

It's all about expectations.  If MU was picked to finish 6th and we finished 6th because we lost 4 1000 point scorers or went up in class in a new league, etc, then that is understandable.  Exepectations tie into it.  The more you win, the higher the expectations, human nature.

Do you think if he had repeated what he did at MU at another school and was then picked to win the league but failed to make the NIT some fans of that school would be miffed?  Of course they would.  Doesn't matter where he goes in this country, what school, that would be the reaction.

Now let's look at it in real terms. The guy is loved at MU, they have bent over backwards for him to the point of even eliminating his bosses.  If Buzz thinks people are on him or out to get him at MU then he should really hang it up and go into television.  He has it great at MU, a high major program, paid very well and the pressures are there but not anywhere to the level they are at other schools in the same position. 

Nailed it.  If Buzz cares what this board thinks then he is an enormous kitten.  We are fanatics, not your average fans here.

[Wojo'sMojo]

This Buzz crap year after year is getting very tiresome. I love Buzz and hope he stays here for a very long time. That being said, if he wants to go more power to ya. He does everyone who is at Marquette and Marquette fans a big disservice every offseason, as he never reaffirms his commitment to MU. Despite all the good ol country boy charm, I think Buzz has a huge ego and enjoys people talking about him. It kind of reminds me of Favre in his early days with the awe shucks and what not...We saw how that turned out lol. Now I think Buzz is ten times the human being Favre is, I just think the good ol country boy act isn't as genuine as it used to be. Buzz if you want to stay at MU, just say you aren't going anywhere so we don't have to deal with this bs every year.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Agree with expectations but Buzz kinda put that on himself when he said at Madness before the 2012-13 season that Sweet 16s arent good enough anymore." If you think Buzz doesnt like expectations and pressure then youre wrong because it came straight from the horses mouth.

[Goose]

4ever

Stone is not a given is what I have heard as well. Definitely still in the game, but far from a lock at this point. We really do need to get him.

[MUfan12]

Stone is not a given is what I have heard as well. Definitely still in the game, but far from a lock at this point. We really do need to get him.

If he stays in-state, I like MU's chances.

Problem is, I don't think he stays in-state.

[mu-rara]

If he stays in-state, I like MU's chances.

Problem is, I don't think he stays in-state.

Have the unholy trio (Duke, UK, UNC) really gotten involved yet, or are they waiting?

[4everwarriors]

Have the unholy trio (Duke, UK, UNC) really gotten involved yet, or are they waiting?

Add UCLA to that mix

[SWARM!]

Buzz is gone. It sounds like a done deal. Don't crucify me- just telling what I know.