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Author Topic: Danny Pudi on Olbermann  (Read 32967 times)

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2015, 09:01:34 AM »
I guess since the parent Fox network has NFL games, Olbermann would be unlikely to find more freedom at FS1 (it is a Murdoch company, after all).  Maybe he'll end up on HBO or something.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #76 on: July 09, 2015, 09:02:48 AM »
I think a better step for FS1 is to spend their money obtaining more rights fees.  They actually outdrew ESPN a couple weeks in July due to the Woman's World Cup.
Fair point.  That was a big (and rare) win for FS1. 

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #77 on: July 09, 2015, 09:19:52 AM »
I guess since the parent Fox network has NFL games, Olbermann would be unlikely to find more freedom at FS1 (it is a Murdoch company, after all).  Maybe he'll end up on HBO or something.

I've heard him say he would never work for a Rupert Murdoch company ever again after his first stint.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2015, 10:09:29 AM »
I've heard him say he would never work for a Rupert Murdoch company ever again after his first stint.

Keith has been fired by so many companies, including  MSNBC, that he can say whatever he wants.  A despicable human being.  Awful treatment of people.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2015, 10:10:57 AM »
I think a better step for FS1 is to spend their money obtaining more rights fees.  They actually outdrew ESPN a couple weeks in July due to the Woman's World Cup.

Sure, except no rights of any import are available for some time.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2015, 10:38:37 AM »
Keith has been fired by so many companies, including  MSNBC, that he can say whatever he wants.  A despicable human being.  Awful treatment of people.
What did he do, email someone to specifically tell them he didn't feel sorry for them for the recent miscarriage suffered by their wife and to tell them they could never have loved their child anyway?
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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #81 on: July 09, 2015, 10:40:18 AM »
Sure, except no rights of any import are available for some time.


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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2015, 11:38:20 AM »
What did he do, email someone to specifically tell them he didn't feel sorry for them for the recent miscarriage suffered by their wife and to tell them they could never have loved their child anyway?

Now that would be a sign of a truly despicable, possibly irredeemable person.
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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2015, 01:16:23 PM »
What did he do, email someone to specifically tell them he didn't feel sorry for them for the recent miscarriage suffered by their wife and to tell them they could never have loved their child anyway?
What?

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2015, 08:00:00 PM »
I think a better step for FS1 is to spend their money obtaining more rights fees.  They actually outdrew ESPN a couple weeks in July due to the Woman's World Cup.

As PRN noted, they need live sports programming.  The highlighted part from your post demonstrates this.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2015, 08:14:44 PM »
Reads a lot like the FS1 rational for making cuts.

ESPN Tightens Its Belt as Pressure on It Mounts
Competition in the pay-TV industry is rising and subscribers are trimming cable bills

http://www.wsj.com/articles/espn-tightens-its-belt-as-pressure-on-it-mounts-1436485852

Sports-TV powerhouse ESPN, a profit machine that long towered over the media landscape, is showing signs of stress as the pay-TV industry goes through an unprecedented period of upheaval.

A decline in subscribers as customers trim their cable bills, coupled with rising content costs and increased competition, has ESPN in belt-tightening mode, people familiar with the situation say.

The company, majority owned by Walt Disney Co. , has lost 3.2 million subscribers in a little over a year, according to Nielsen data, as people have “cut the cord” by dropping their cable-TV subscriptions or downgraded to cheaper, slimmed-down TV packages devoid of expensive sports channels like ESPN.

At the same time, the prices ESPN pays for the rights to show games are ballooning. Rivals including 21st Century Fox Inc. ’s Fox Sports and Comcast Corp. ’s NBC are aggressively pursuing sports properties to feed their own outlets, which is also driving up prices. (Fox and News Corp, owner of The Wall Street Journal, were part of the same company until 2013.)

Last year, ESPN agreed as part of a renewal deal with the National Basketball Association to triple its average annual fees from $485 million to about $1.47 billion, people familiar with the deal said.



ESPN sees talent as one area where it can control its costs, and it has been taking a hard line in negotiations.

On Wednesday, the company said it was parting ways with star host Keith Olbermann. That followed the exit in May of Bill Simmons, another big name. While Mr. Olbermann’s tendency to make controversial statements sometimes landed him in hot water with ESPN and some of its business partners, including the National Football League, the decision was a financial one, a person with knowledge of the decision said.

Other ESPN talent likely facing tough negotiations down the road includes “Monday Night Football” anchor Mike Tirico, reporters Michelle Beadle and Adam Schefter, and radio-host Colin Cowherd, people close to them said.

“We are constantly looking at the cost side of our business and calibrating that against our expectations for the future,” said ESPN Executive Vice President of Administration Ed Durso. “Regardless of what the future holds, we’re incredibly well-positioned to adapt.”

The stakes are high for Disney. ESPN will contribute roughly 25% of the company’s operating profit this year, according to Nomura Securities. ESPN’s fortunes are being closely watched in the media world as cord-cutting picks up and consumers gravitate to streaming services.

Sports has long been viewed as the glue holding the pay-TV bundle together, providing leverage for media giants like Disney to distribute wider groups of channels and secure higher fees from pay-TV operators.

Since July 2011, ESPN’s reach into American homes has dropped 7.2%, from more than 100 million households—roughly the size of the total U.S. pay-TV market—to 92.9 million households, according to Nielsen data.

Viewership of SportsCenter, its marquee and high-margin sports-news show, has sagged since September, due in part to the fact that younger consumers are increasingly finding sports news at their fingertips on smartphone apps.

To be sure, ESPN continues to trounce other cable channels in ratings, garnering an average of 2.4 million prime-time viewers tuning in live or within seven days since last September.

Networks such as The Weather Channel and Viacom Inc.’s Nickelodeon have also suffered steep declines in household reach in the last four years. Among other top networks, Time Warner Inc.’s TNT has shed 6% of its base, and NBCUniversal’s USA has lost 5%.

The financial stakes are especially high for ESPN because it earns the most carriage fees of any TV channel, about $6.61 a month per subscriber, according to SNL Kagan.

In response to the pressures, ESPN has been scaling back ambitious initiatives. One such move was its decision to cancel plans to move its popular morning “Mike & Mike” radio and TV show from the company’s Bristol, Conn., headquarters to the ABC studio in New York City that houses “Good Morning America.”

ESPN announced the idea with great fanfare in May but then put it on hold a few weeks ago. People close to ESPN say the cost associated with relocating to New York was a major factor.

As it trims costs, ESPN is also looking for new ways to boost revenue. In previous years, Disney’s ABC network received four minutes of time to promote its new shows for the fall during each NBA finals game it aired. This year, ESPN, which manages the NBA rights for Disney, cut that amount by about 75% so that it could sell more ads, people with knowledge of the matter said, a move that angered ABC executives.

Disney’s concerns about ESPN’s subscriber losses have shown up in its deal-making as it tries to get distribution on new online services that compete with traditional pay TV.

When Disney struck a deal to put channels on Dish Network Corp.’s Sling TV service, it negotiated the right to terminate the deal if ESPN lost three million Nielsen households after May 2014—a threshold that has now been crossed, according to people familiar with the matter.

Other factors could play into Disney exercising that right, including if Sling TV attracts more than two million subscribers, though that benchmark is still a ways off, the people said.

ESPN has been an early adopter of new digital business models and has built a huge Web and mobile audience for its news content—an asset as the TV model comes under pressure. But it has moved cautiously in online video, making sure any new product safeguards its lucrative pay-TV business.

Some networks like HBO and CBS have launched their own stand-alone online video services to target customers that don’t want to buy a cable-TV subscription. ESPN has so far shied away from that route, and it would face some complications in that endeavor.

If ESPN offers its channel as a direct-to-consumer streaming service, some pay-TV operators have the contractual right to boot ESPN out of their most widely-sold channel packages and sell it a la carte, according to people familiar with the matter.

ESPN would have to charge about $30 a month per customer in an over-the-top offering to make the same money using that model, analysts say. But those distributors would have the right to undercut ESPN in their retail pricing, the people said.

To be sure, there are no signs ESPN wants to offer a stand-alone Web version of itself to consumers anytime soon.

“As long as the current distribution ecosystem, or the one that seems to be emerging, continues to create value for us, then we’ll rely on it to distribute our product,” Disney Chief Executive Bob Iger said on a May earnings conference call.

But he added that there’s “some development under way” to create products directly for consumers.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2015, 09:18:44 PM »
Nielsen is not a good source for subscriber data numbers.  SNL Kagan attempts to do it with some accuracy, but aren't too good at it.

The 3 million Sling number is slightly off, but the context is wrong.  Sling TV has added a few hundred thousand customers, there is a cap in how many customers they can.

The article is correct that if ESPN tries to go out on their own, satellite, cable, fiber can take them out of their packages.  Right now they have to keep them in at an 85% penetrations level and at more than $7 per sub for some systems, that's a killer cost to bear monthly for a person that doesn't care about sports.

If ESPN goes that route, the pay tv companies will respond by yanking them out of lower based packages.  That will hurt ESPN further, in which case they will have to charge a lot of money to make up the revenue they need to pay for the programming they have purchased and are on the hook for. 

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2015, 09:19:54 PM »
What did he do, email someone to specifically tell them he didn't feel sorry for them for the recent miscarriage suffered by their wife and to tell them they could never have loved their child anyway?

No, he just continues to crap on the people that pay him large amounts of money and then wonders why he is fired.  He treats the helps horribly.  Has since his days at KTLA, KCBS, and forever since. 

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #88 on: July 09, 2015, 10:06:21 PM »

Big Ten after 2016-17 are the biggest thing on the horizon.

Yes, but they won't even be able to get all of that.  They'll get their chunk, afterall Fox owns 51% of the BTN.  ESPN will make sure to retain some of those rights.  It's in the Big Ten's best interests to sell the rights off individually into smaller bits and drive the prices up accordingly.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #89 on: July 09, 2015, 10:29:37 PM »
Olbermann is unwatchable, regardless of venue.

Good riddance.
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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #90 on: July 10, 2015, 08:11:15 AM »
He treats the helps horribly. 

Takes one to know one I guess.
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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #91 on: July 10, 2015, 08:22:21 AM »
Olbermann is unwatchable, regardless of venue.

Good riddance.

Mixed feelings here.

I couldn't watch him on MSNBC with the political stuff - way too pompous for my taste.

On sports, however, I thought he was the best commentator out there out there. Still occasionally over the top, but generally excellent.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #92 on: July 10, 2015, 08:48:32 AM »
Takes one to know one I guess.

Can your dad beat up my dad, too?

I've never been fired, always treat employees well.  Never had one leave on their own (had to relieve a few unfortunately).   Olbermann treats people horrificly.  This has been known in the industry for 20+ years.  You are free to do a search and find plenty of comments from former coworkers, etc that detail what it is like to work with the man.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #93 on: July 10, 2015, 09:16:36 AM »
"Olbermann treats people horrificly.  This has been known in the industry for 20+ years."


Sounds like Crean, ai na?
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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #94 on: July 10, 2015, 09:21:05 AM »
"Olbermann treats people horrificly.  This has been known in the industry for 20+ years."


Sounds like Crean, ai na?

I don't know, people come and go with the second guy, some of his staff and former players swear by him.  I've yet to find anyone that sticks by Olbermann.

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« Reply #95 on: July 10, 2015, 09:47:09 AM »
"Olbermann treats people horrificly.  This has been known in the industry for 20+ years."


Sounds like Crean, ai na?

They are both total a-holes. Only difference is Olberman can, in rare instances, be clever. Crean is just strange.

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Re: Danny Pudi on Olbermann
« Reply #96 on: July 12, 2015, 02:35:07 PM »
What did he do, email someone to specifically tell them he didn't feel sorry for them for the recent miscarriage suffered by their wife and to tell them they could never have loved their child anyway?

Still love to understand what this reference is

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« Reply #97 on: July 12, 2015, 02:45:04 PM »
Still love to understand what this reference is

Ask Bagpiping Boxer. 
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« Reply #98 on: July 17, 2015, 02:01:09 PM »
Cowherd and Simmons let go, too. 
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« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2015, 02:04:51 PM »
Cowherd and Simmons let go, too.

I don't think Simmons was so much let go as it was a parting of ways. Im actually happy to see Simmons separate from ESPN, love to see what he can do on his own.