Charles Matthews trims list to 10

[MUfan12]

He turned down a coach who has actually won something, for a coach who hasn't, and is a prick of a human being as well.

That's assuming it was his decision.

[NersEllenson]

Posted several times on Twitter, this is Cailpari's 24th 5-star recruit since he came to Kentucky in 2009.

Has Cal won, one National Championship since being at Kentucky?  Can't recall...

Obviously a lot of the 5-star guys have been 1 and 2 and done kind of guys....but....if he's averaging roughly 4, 5-star recruits per year...you'd expect that he'd at least have 1 National Championship in those 4, years....

Is he a great coach, or better recruiter than coach?  Hard to be considered a great coach without any talent to help you win...so you do need some talent regardless...

Kentucky is what it is - a blue blood in every sense - and there are likely some things in play at Kentucky as far as how far they are willing to push the boundaries on ethical recruiting practices that other schools might not be as willing to...then lots of politics involved with the AAU circuit, shoe deals, World Wide Wes...that can all influence these things..

[Windyplayer]

Has Cal won, one National Championship since being at Kentucky?  Can't recall...

Obviously a lot of the 5-star guys have been 1 and 2 and done kind of guys....but....if he's averaging roughly 4, 5-star recruits per year...you'd expect that he'd at least have 1 National Championship in those 4, years....

Is he a great coach, or better recruiter than coach?  Hard to be considered a great coach without any talent to help you win...so you do need some talent regardless...

Kentucky is what it is - a blue blood in every sense - and there are likely some things in play at Kentucky as far as how far they are willing to push the boundaries on ethical recruiting practices that other schools might not be as willing to...then lots of politics involved with the AAU circuit, shoe deals, World Wide Wes...that can all influence these things..

You're too kind.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Has Cal won, one National Championship since being at Kentucky?  Can't recall...

Obviously a lot of the 5-star guys have been 1 and 2 and done kind of guys....but....if he's averaging roughly 4, 5-star recruits per year...you'd expect that he'd at least have 1 National Championship in those 4, years....

Is he a great coach, or better recruiter than coach?  Hard to be considered a great coach without any talent to help you win...so you do need some talent regardless...

Kentucky is what it is - a blue blood in every sense - and there are likely some things in play at Kentucky as far as how far they are willing to push the boundaries on ethical recruiting practices that other schools might not be as willing to...then lots of politics involved with the AAU circuit, shoe deals, World Wide Wes...that can all influence these things..

I can't tell if you're joking, but yes, Cal has a NC.

[4everwarriors]

He turned down a coach who has actually won something, for a coach who hasn't, and is a prick of a human being as well.

Not hearin' the prick part. Actually, just the opposite.

[mr.MUskie]

Just pulled the UK hat out of what I want to say was a St. Rita bag.

...full of money.

[Dawson Rental]

Has Cal won, one National Championship since being at Kentucky?  Can't recall...

Obviously a lot of the 5-star guys have been 1 and 2 and done kind of guys....but....if he's averaging roughly 4, 5-star recruits per year...you'd expect that he'd at least have 1 National Championship in those 4, years....

Is he a great coach, or better recruiter than coach?  Hard to be considered a great coach without any talent to help you win...so you do need some talent regardless...

Kentucky is what it is - a blue blood in every sense - and there are likely some things in play at Kentucky as far as how far they are willing to push the boundaries on ethical recruiting practices that other schools might not be as willing to...then lots of politics involved with the AAU circuit, shoe deals, World Wide Wes...that can all influence these things..

Yeah, he has one, then again last year they missed the NCAA.  Eventually, I think that Cal will learn that he needs to mix a few four year types in with the one and dones, if he wants a more consistent program.  Then again, maybe Kentucky isn't looking for consistency.  Maybe there they are willing to put up with disappointing years in order to increase the number of years where they are legitimate National Championship favorites.

[GGGG]

Not hearin' the prick part. Actually, just the opposite.

Then they aren't paying attention.  Then again, Dwyane Wade fell for your boy Tom Crean, so maybe they just haven't figure him out yet.

[Dawson Rental]

...full of money.

Me like.

[Tugg Speedman]

I can't tell if you're joking, but yes, Cal has a NC.

and an NIT appearance (last year) and a middling 4 seed team this year.

Loading up with one and done talents is a real crap shoot.  You start the year with legitimate aspiration of a NC but could end up in the NIT instead.  No consistency.

[willie warrior]

He turned down a coach who has actually won something, for a coach who hasn't, and is a prick of a human being as well.

Sultan--Shady has won something--a national title with Davis while the Coach you alledge has won something only shares a Beast regular season crown. You might want to rephrase.

[GGGG]

Sultan--Shady has won something--a national title with Davis while the Coach you alledge has won something only shares a Beast regular season crown. You might want to rephrase.

You may want to follow the discussion more closely.

[NersEllenson]

I can't tell if you're joking, but yes, Cal has a NC.

Nope..wasn't kidding...wasn't sure if he had one at Kentucky...couldn't recall and didn't feel like researching!  Thanks for clearing up...

[Tugg Speedman]

Nope..wasn't kidding...wasn't sure if he had one at Kentucky...couldn't recall and didn't feel like researching!  Thanks for clearing up...

Yes one NC ... for now.  Remember his FF appearances at Umass (Marcus Camby) and Memphis (Derek Rose) have been vacated.

[Dawson Rental]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0

[ChicosBailBonds]

He turned down one blue blood where he won't have to go to class for another blue blood where he won't have to go to class. Not quite an equal comparison to Kentucky over Marquette

He'll be going to class at UCLA.

[brandx]

I'd love to see a list from some of these posters as to which schools cheat and which do not. They sure seem to think they know, so why not just give us a list we can use for reference. Maybe let us know which schools require you to take classes and which ones don't.

[MUSF]

I'd love to see a list from some of these posters as to which schools cheat and which do not. They sure seem to think they know, so why not just give us a list we can use for reference. Maybe let us know which schools require you to take classes and which ones don't.

I don't think it's a matter of cheating as much as it is a matter of different ethical standards. That stated, we are arguing about varying shades of grey. IMO, very few programs have completely clean hands when it comes to recruiting. That is why I stopped engaging in these arguments.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He'll be going to class at UCLA.

Will he be majoring in Swahili? That's the major that UCLA's old football coach used to stick football players in to hide them. I just assumed basketball used similar tactic

[ChicosBailBonds]

Will he be majoring in Swahili? That's the major that UCLA's old football coach used to stick football players in to hide them. I just assumed basketball used similar tactic

I grew up very close to Terry Donahue in the town I lived in, he was the UCLA coach for many years and we were able to go to Bruins games all the time as a result.  One of the big reasons I grew up a Bruins fan.  Prior to that, Dick Vermeil, whom I also know.  Which UCLA football coach are you talking about?  I've never heard that.

If majoring in a foreign language like Swahili is supposed to be easy, I must be missing something.  Foreign languages are usually pretty difficult.  My guess would be Communications, Tourism, Ag Journalism, Sports Management, Sociology, and a few others are far "easier".   

At any rate, looking at the UCLA majors that are offered...125 in all....Swahili doesn't exist as a separate major.  You can major in African languages for which Swahili is one of the various African language courses around.

Latest numbers I saw, UCLA was only behind Stanford in terms of Pac 12 athletic academics (GPAs, acceptance rates, graduation, etc).  In the APR, they are 2nd behind Stanford through 2012, but couldn't find 2013.

   

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I grew up very close to Terry Donahue in the town I lived in, he was the UCLA coach for many years and we were able to go to Bruins games all the time as a result.  One of the big reasons I grew up a Bruins fan.  Prior to that, Dick Vermeil, whom I also know.  Which UCLA football coach are you talking about?  I've never heard that.

If majoring in a foreign language like Swahili is supposed to be easy, I must be missing something.  Foreign languages are usually pretty difficult.  My guess would be Communications, Tourism, Ag Journalism, Sports Management, Sociology, and a few others are far "easier".   

At any rate, looking at the UCLA majors that are offered...125 in all....Swahili doesn't exist as a separate major.  You can major in African languages for which Swahili is one of the various African language courses around.

Latest numbers I saw, UCLA was only behind Stanford in terms of Pac 12 athletic academics (GPAs, acceptance rates, graduation, etc).  In the APR, they are 2nd behind Stanford through 2012, but couldn't find 2013.

Slick Rick Nueheisal. And yes, Swahili would definitely be hard. If it wasn't taught by a member of the coaching staff...who didn't speak Swahili.

[Class71]

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Who has more recruits going to the NBA, Kentucky or Marquette? There is your answer.

[wadesworld]

Slick Rick Nueheisal. And yes, Swahili would definitely be hard. If it wasn't taught by a member of the coaching staff...who didn't speak Swahili.

Haha. If you are believing that these things are actually happening at UCLA and Kentucky like you've been told I think I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...

[BM1090]

Haha. If you are believing that these things are actually happening at UCLA and Kentucky like you've been told I think I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...

Normally I'd agree.....but if UNC can have an entirely fabricated African-American studies department for years then anything is possible

[ChicosBailBonds]

Slick Rick Nueheisal. And yes, Swahili would definitely be hard. If it wasn't taught by a member of the coaching staff...who didn't speak Swahili.

I know nothing of the story you are talking about honestly.  A lot of good friends over at UCLA's athletic department.  They've had issues with handicap parking passes back in the days with Cade McNown and their share of individual issues from time to time, but academically run a pretty clean ship.  Too many profs at the UC schools that would love nothing more than to hammer athletics because they don't believe in them.

Maybe there is something out there with UCLA and Swahili...news to me.  I have heard of UW (Washington) and their Swahili classes which have many athletes in them.  Rick used to coach up there, but haven't heard about it at UCLA.  It was one of many classes they housed athletes at UW.  Sort of how UW (Madison) does it for certain majors, Michigan for Sports Management, MU for Communications, etc.

You sure its not UW you are referencing?   http://www.benzduck.com/journal/2013/10/9/for-washington-week-a-book-review-scoreboard-baby.html