Johnny Football

[ChicosBailBonds]

Athlete or not, many college kids do stupid things and brag about them (e.g. the Iowa girl who blew a .341 trying to run onto the football field and then spent the next 12 hours on and off tweeting about how awesome she is). I'm not so high and mighty as to differentiate between one who's the daughter of my neighbor and one who plays football.

Agree, though I think that .341 story is somewhat bogus.  I'd like to see who calibrated their breathelizer.  A .341 should make you dead or in a coma.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Agree, though I think that .341 story is somewhat bogus.  I'd like to see who calibrated their breathelizer.  A .341 should make you dead or in a coma.

Actually, this isn't necessarily true. My department responds to alcohol situations frequently. I have seen someone blow a .410 and still be conscious. Granted, they weren't moving, but they were still awake.

My guess is that when she ran onto the field she was "on her way up." Her BAC peaked at .341 but when she ran onto the field it was probably much lower.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Actually, this isn't necessarily true. My department responds to alcohol situations frequently. I have seen someone blow a .410 and still be conscious. Granted, they weren't moving, but they were still awake.

My guess is that when she ran onto the field she was "on her way up." Her BAC peaked at .341 but when she ran onto the field it was probably much lower.

Interesting.  I was always told a number that high and you are seriously screwed.  I suppose exceptions to every rule.

Here is one of the charts that outlines based on body weight what a number like that could mean.  For women, a .341 shows up in "death possible" assuming she is around 100lbs.  I have no idea how big this gal was.  

http://www.brad21.org/bac_charts.html

[brandx]

You sure sound like someone who's pretty high and mighty.

Does your neighbor's daughter go to school for free? Is she a well-known representative of her university? Is she a role model to young people across the country? If you're on the "everyone's doing it, so it's fine" train, good for you. Personally, I hold people to a higher standard than that. Are you not familiar with the biblical notion that to whom much is given, much is required?  

A couple points.
1. I'm tired of the "going to school for free" thing. He has no other option but to go to school. The rules won't let him earn a living doing what he does best (so much for the free market).
2. A role model? How about parents being a role model to their kids instead of shirking their duty and expecting a total stranger to be what they have failed to be.

[MerrittsMustache]

A couple points.
1. I'm tired of the "going to school for free" thing. He has no other option but to go to school. The rules won't let him earn a living doing what he does best (so much for the free market).
2. A role model? How about parents being a role model to their kids instead of shirking their duty and expecting a total stranger to be what they have failed to be.

1. That doesn't change the fact that he has been given the opportunity to receive a free education.

2. Whether you like it or not, athletes are role models. Sure, parents would ideally be the primary role models in their kids lives, but that isn't always the case. Just because you don't think he should be a role model, that doesn't mean that he isn't.

[Pakuni]

Actually, this isn't necessarily true. My department responds to alcohol situations frequently. I have seen someone blow a .410 and still be conscious. Granted, they weren't moving, but they were still awake.

My guess is that when she ran onto the field she was "on her way up." Her BAC peaked at .341 but when she ran onto the field it was probably much lower.

World record is .914.
Never get into a drinking contest with an Eastern European.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2005/01/04/drunk-bulgarian-050104.html

[Golden Avalanche]

You sure sound like someone who's pretty high and mighty.

Does your neighbor's daughter go to school for free? Is she a well-known representative of her university? Is she a role model to young people across the country? If you're on the "everyone's doing it, so it's fine" train, good for you. Personally, I hold people to a higher standard than that. Are you not familiar with the biblical notion that to whom much is given, much is required?  

Manziel was arrested and charged with three misdemeanors. I assume you're fine with that though since other 19-year-olds have gotten into fights and then produced a fake ID.

High and mighty would be getting panties in a bunch over behavior that has been going on for decades, whether in a spotlight or not. But with the always convenient fall back to biblical ideology, this is territory I won't enter.

Regarding Manziel's legal run-ins, much as I viewed Vander's moment, this crap happens in college. Though, in Johnny's case, rarely do you see a kid start with caution and try to diffuse the situation like he did according to sworn witness testimony until the fight was brought to him. It's not like Manziel pulled a Pierre Pierce. As for a fake ID? I'd be shocked if Manziel didn't have one.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Fake ID or Marijuana?  Which one are you offered first in the dorm?

[forgetful]

High and mighty would be getting panties in a bunch over behavior that has been going on for decades, whether in a spotlight or not. But with the always convenient fall back to biblical ideology, this is territory I won't enter.

Regarding Manziel's legal run-ins, much as I viewed Vander's moment, this crap happens in college. Though, in Johnny's case, rarely do you see a kid start with caution and try to diffuse the situation like he did according to sworn witness testimony until the fight was brought to him. It's not like Manziel pulled a Pierre Pierce. As for a fake ID? I'd be shocked if Manziel didn't have one.

Yeah he's a pillar of calmness, which is why he has had to be treated for alcohol addiction and anger management.  It's also why he shoved a team manager to the ground (because he throw 3 interceptions) and was about to attack him before his team restrained him. 

When I was in college I knew a lot of the athletes.  Did they drink, yeah, but just like every other student they tried to be a little discrete about it. Did they do a few stupid things, yeah, but again they tried to be discrete about ti.

Manziel goes extremely over the top with everything.  Experts say that his actions have probably already cost him millions in the future.  Why, because his actions are way beyond the norm.  They represent a character flaw, consistent with an egomaniac A$$hole.  To try to represent his actions as typical college behavior is either naive to the average college student, or rather condones the actions of the fringe 10% who as Johnny does, have character flaws that will affect their careers/families/friends.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Fake ID or Marijuana?  Which one are you offered first in the dorm?

Depends on the school.

When I was at MU, very few drugs.

I was on Spring break once back home in L.A. and went to a party with some of my buds and Loyola Marymount and then over at USC.  At SC, the cocaine was at every party if you wanted it....it was an eye opener. 

[mu-rara]

I have no dog in this hunt.  I could not care less about Johnny Football's exploits.

That said, if he wants to be an NFL quarterback, he needs to get serious.  At this rate, he may flame out before his eligibility is complete.

[swoopem]

Fake ID or Marijuana?  Which one are you offered first in the dorm?

Why would you show up without either

[tower912]

Fake ID or Marijuana?  Which one are you offered first in the dorm?

I was offered pot once in 4 years at MU.   Of course, beer was $5.99 a case......

[BobWildLoyalist]

I was offered pot once in 4 years at MU.   Of course, beer was $5.99 a case......

Once? Sounds like the band geeks got crazy one night and ONCE tried to turn a sax into a bong. Beer being $5.99 a case only means you have plenty of money to spend.

[BubbaWilliams]

I graduated in 08 and if you knew where to look, beer was still 5.99 a case. Pot was everywhere, except the library. I miss college.

[Abode4life]

I graduated in 08 and if you knew where to look, beer was still 5.99 a case. Pot was everywhere, except the library. I miss college.

Mount Creek?  $6 for a thirty pack.

[BubbaWilliams]

For all of you who may be judging me, when I was in college, I had no standards (it was tough to be a guy at MU and have standards). 

[forgetful]

Mount Creek?  $6 for a thirty pack.

That is really cheap.  The cheapest I ever remember seeing was something called Wildcat Ice, gas station in Duluth had it for $2.50 a 12-pack.

Other than that the cheapest beer I an think of available everywhere was Schaefer Light. 

For both, you got what you paid for.

[MerrittsMustache]

For all of you who may be judging me, when I was in college, I had no standards (it was tough to be a guy at MU and have standards). 

Ah, the go-to excuse for guys who were perpetually shot down except for the occasional fatty.

[damuts222]

MU girls made it easier to pick up girls while visiting other colleges.  Not saying im just saying.

[Sunbelt15]

Ah, the go-to excuse for guys who were perpetually shot down except for the occasional fatty.

Ain't nothing wrong with fatties. It's the sloppy ones I hasitate on. (3x's more gut than butt)

[Sunbelt15]

MU girls made it easier to pick up girls while visiting other colleges.  Not saying im just saying.

So MU girls are tease?

[GGGG]

Depends on the school.

When I was at MU, very few drugs.

I was on Spring break once back home in L.A. and went to a party with some of my buds and Loyola Marymount and then over at USC.  At SC, the cocaine was at every party if you wanted it....it was an eye opener. 

I was Marquette about the same time you were and pot was at a bunch of the parties I went to.  The only time I saw drugs harder than that was when some people were doing coke at a party...and I got out of there pretty quick.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I was Marquette about the same time you were and pot was at a bunch of the parties I went to.  The only time I saw drugs harder than that was when some people were doing coke at a party...and I got out of there pretty quick.

I guess I was at my girlfriend's place too much, honestly didn't come in contact with it very much at all.

[Coleman]

Depends on the school.

When I was at MU, very few drugs.

I was on Spring break once back home in L.A. and went to a party with some of my buds and Loyola Marymount and then over at USC.  At SC, the cocaine was at every party if you wanted it....it was an eye opener.  

While MU is a drinking school first and foremost, there was a decent amount of pot at MU. Although it wasn't my thing, I knew lots of people who did it, and it was relatively easy to acquire if you wanted it. Saw people doing coke once or twice but it wasn't ubiquitous like at some schools.

Peruse the Marquette Tribune DPS reports online sometime. They are pretty funny. A lot of the reports are about controlled substances.

Oh and I graduated in '08 and there were still 30 packs of beer to be had for  < $10 if you knew the right liquor stores in some of the less pleasant areas of Milwaukee