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jsglow

I will say that it does seem really, really expensive and that's its application in the US would be quite limited.  Trains work better in other parts of the world because of density issues, both between population centers and within population centers.

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Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 03, 2017, 05:17:11 AM
You need to actually look into this before coming up with these types of questions.  You can mostly answer them with the internet... especially #3.

I think his response is fitting for a "former Amtrak executive" commenting on the Hyperloop.

Hards Alumni

If you'd have actually bothered to do ANY reading, you'd have noticed that the hyperloop is expected to travel along existing interstate highway corridors.

Instead, you acted like a former Amtrak executive.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: PTM on August 03, 2017, 09:50:08 AM
I think his response is fitting for a "former Amtrak executive" commenting on the Hyperloop.

As I was posting my reply to him, you beat me to the snark by seconds.

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Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 03, 2017, 09:51:16 AM
As I was posting my reply to him, you beat me to the snark by seconds.

Finishing earlier than others is my forte.

mu03eng

"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

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Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 03, 2017, 09:50:27 AM
If you'd have actually bothered to do ANY reading, you'd have noticed that the hyperloop is expected to travel along existing interstate highway corridors.


Which isn't exactly a given either.  Many of these corridors are pretty full and rights of way can be expensive. 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on August 03, 2017, 10:22:13 AM

Which isn't exactly a given either.  Many of these corridors are pretty full and rights of way can be expensive.

Elevated or buried has been floated

jficke13

The players that are probably best in position to implement this are Union Pacific, CSX, and the rest of the rails. They already have rail lines, extremely sophisticated logistics systems, integration with international shipping hubs/ports/etc., and I still think that the hyperloop technology will be more effective freight system than commuter/interstate personal travel system.

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Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 03, 2017, 10:42:14 AM
Elevated or buried has been floated


Which are both quite expensive.

The thing about Musk is he is a big thinking guy.  Big ideas using big technology.  However, none of it has been profitable right?  The guy gets the benefit of the doubt because of his previous success, but that success mostly was due to the opposite of big technology. 

mu03eng

"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

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GGGG

But seriously, is Elon Musk just doing all of this to bilk venture investors out of their fortunes?  Seriously, what major advances in building tunnels is this company actually going to accomplish?

mu03eng

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on August 03, 2017, 12:38:41 PM
But seriously, is Elon Musk just doing all of this to bilk venture investors out of their fortunes?  Seriously, what major advances in building tunnels is this company actually going to accomplish?

The less flashy IP generated by his companies alone is worth what investors are paying. For every moonshot effort he's making there is small and unheralded innovations that are generated (even if the project/company is a failure) which have a myriad of applications that advance society in subtler ways. A lot of people don't realize that Musk leases out some of the technology to other companies to deploy in their products, including to Google.

Similar concept, Milwaukee Tool is a rapidly growing company, and while their tools are good/popular they actually generate a lot of their revenue from leasing battery technology to their competitors because Milwaukee Tool got there first with a patent.

But to be fair to your point, Musk is largely a salesman.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Benny B

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on August 03, 2017, 12:38:41 PM
But seriously, is Elon Musk just doing all of this to bilk venture investors out of their fortunes?  Seriously, what major advances in building tunnels is this company actually going to accomplish?

20/200 vision.  Elon Musk might be nothing more than the Bob Lang of the next technological revolution.  And that's a very good thing for the rest of us.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Quote from: mu03eng on August 03, 2017, 12:57:05 PM
The less flashy IP generated by his companies alone is worth what investors are paying. For every moonshot effort he's making there is small and unheralded innovations that are generated (even if the project/company is a failure) which have a myriad of applications that advance society in subtler ways. A lot of people don't realize that Musk leases out some of the technology to other companies to deploy in their products, including to Google.

Similar concept, Milwaukee Tool is a rapidly growing company, and while their tools are good/popular they actually generate a lot of their revenue from leasing battery technology to their competitors because Milwaukee Tool got there first with a patent.

But to be fair to your point, Musk is largely a salesman.

Quote from: Benny B on August 03, 2017, 12:58:09 PM
20/200 vision.  Elon Musk might be nothing more than the Bob Lang of the next technological revolution.  And that's a very good thing for the rest of us.


Yeah thanks.  These are good points.


TSmith34, Inc.

Done in by the requirement to turn corners.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

JWags85

Should have seen this coming when Branson took Virgin off the name as a preemptive CYA move.

jesmu84

Should have seen it coming when Elon admitted the whole idea was an attempt to distract CA from moving forward with high speed rail

The Sultan

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 22, 2023, 10:29:40 AM
Should have seen it coming when Elon admitted the whole idea was an attempt to distract CA from moving forward with high speed rail

The genius is playing chess while the rest of us are playing checkers.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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