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willie warrior

Quote from: MU82 on May 06, 2013, 10:19:20 AM
I just can't believe folks aren't discussing the odds of Jake Thomas being the next Steve Nash!
Nah. Jake=Jerry West
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

MUSF

This reminds me of the Sklar brothers' Jose Oquendo routine.

Sunbelt15

The NBA is so fast pace that Otule sight will be a major disability. Not to mention his bad legs.

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: moomoo on May 06, 2013, 11:14:30 AM
Ok, u got me. I do wear the glasses. But look at last year alone. Fab Freakin Melo was drafted 22nd in first round and he could do NOTHING except block shots.

And blocked more of them in a season than CO ever has, all while averaging 8 points and 6 rebounds as a 21 year old.

Chris is 23 right now.
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muwar2003

How can you possibly say Otule has any chance in the NBA.  He is terrible.  He has no hands, falls over his own feet and got lucky a couple of times last year.  If he was a freshmen next year, then he might have a chance to be half way good.

GGGG

He's not terrible...he's not Roy Hibbert.

Man this board loves to deal in extremes.

RawdogDX

i can't believe you people can't see that having one eye helps CO.  Periphial vision acts as a distraction.  He can focus much better at the task at hand than any full person ever could.  Ask any sleight of hand magician.

4everwarriors

Otule, aka Hibbert, is puttin' an ass kickin' on the Knicks.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Atticus

I noticed that Alex Oriakhi didnt get an invite to the combine. He is a much better player, imo, than CO.

And I think the reason Fab Melo went 22nd in the draft was because gm's were intrigued by his development considering he had only played a couple of years of organized basketball. It wouldnt shock me if he had a career similar to Nazr Mohammed's.

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Quote from: RawdogDX on May 08, 2013, 04:10:33 PM
i can't believe you people can't see that having one eye helps CO.  Periphial vision acts as a distraction.  He can focus much better at the task at hand than any full person ever could.  Ask any sleight of hand magician.

I have one eye, in no way does it help anyone trying to play sports.

moomoo

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 11, 2013, 09:32:57 PM
Otule, aka Hibbert, is puttin' an ass kickin' on the Knicks.

Otule, aka Hibbert, looked very fab Melo a couple games earlier. 3 for 15? Ouch.
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Windyplayer

The comparison at this point is absolutely ludicrous, but if there's one thing I've learned about this program, it's that you can never rule out the possibility of any starter player playing starter minutes from making it to the NBA. I've been pleasantly taken aback time and again.

MUHoopsFan2

#37
Quote from: windyplayer on May 12, 2013, 10:07:36 PM
The comparison at this point is absolutely ludicrous, but if there's one thing I've learned about this program, it's that you can never rule out the possibility of any starter player playing starter minutes from making it to the NBA. I've been pleasantly taken aback time and again.
Not in this case...I regret to inform you. I love Christ, I mean Chris. But his peripheral vision restriants as crass as it seems and as guilty as I feel to say it will limit his usefulness in the faster paced NBA.
Plus Hibbert is a guy who can hit the 15-20 footer if he wanted to and has an array of go to move he is developing.
I am not saying that Chris cannot develop that but Roy Hibbert is a little too much for you to be comparing him to even just to stir conversation.
It does both men a disservice in the comparison. But if you want to compare him to someone I think you got the wrong teammate.

He can be a guy like Ian Mahinmi if you are at all familiar with him. That is more his speed. Not Hibbert. Roy is highly skilled. Chris is  fundamentally sound but it would be a huge leap for him to get to there.
But on a physicality standpoint and a stay in front of your man standpoint I can see Chris making it if some team really likes his character.
But no scout on this earth is going to stake his reputation on drafting him in the first two rounds of the NBA draft unless the Warriors in the NCAA next year and he is Tournament MVP.

Possible, but not likely. But you never know. He will be a force next year if they use him correctly and the inside/outside game works. No one will pull for him more then me.

No ill will intended. He is a great favorite of mine since I have been at MU... but I am just being honest. I think you know this yourself.  

MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: RawdogDX on May 08, 2013, 04:10:33 PM
i can't believe you people can't see that having one eye helps CO.  Periphial vision acts as a distraction.  He can focus much better at the task at hand than any full person ever could.  Ask any sleight of hand magician.
It doesn't you don't know more then anyone else in here who has some common sense. It does not help him. Stop it...

You have no precedent anywhere in this. Don't waste time arguing this and trying to make it seem like you know something we don't.

You don't. And I am sure that you do even play basketball and if you do then you don't play in the NBA. If you do, I stand corrected and I still disagree with you.

I play basketball and trust me, you need your vision on that Roy Hibbert or NBA Pro level.

moomoo

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on May 13, 2013, 12:46:34 AM
It doesn't you don't know more then anyone else in here who has some common sense. It does not help him. Stop it...

You have no precedent anywhere in this. Don't waste time arguing this and trying to make it seem like you know something we don't.

You don't. And I am sure that you do even play basketball and if you do then you don't play in the NBA. If you do, I stand corrected and I still disagree with you.

I play basketball and trust me, you need your vision on that Roy Hibbert or NBA Pro level.

what?  So you play hoops in the NBA?  Take it easy on the "I play basketball" friend, because many of us played CYO just like you.  Additionally, your argument would also suggest that there is no way a person with Chris's eye situation could ever be even close to competitive on ANY college basketball level, yet he was a starter on a Big East team that went to the Elite 8.  I agree that full vision is better than diminished vision, but you don't need to "play basketball" to know this.
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Windyplayer

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on May 13, 2013, 12:37:10 AM
Plus Hibbert is a guy who can hit the 15-20 footer if he wanted to and has an array of go to move he is developing.
I am not saying that Chris cannot develop that but Roy Hibbert is a little too much for you to be comparing him to even just to stir conversation.
It does both men a disservice in the comparison.
Perhaps I should have made my post more clear "absolutely [INSERT: insanely, ridiculously, stupidly] ludicrous." My whole point was that I would not rule Otule out as an NBA prospect. Yes, he has one eye, but he's effective at a high level, which usually means you have a chance.

San Diego Warrior

Maybe Mark Madsen would be a better comparison.  No offensive skill set, just a tall, energy guy that can block shots and rebound the ball.  Not that I think Otule has the same tenacity as Mad Dog did, but at least offensive skill sets are a better comparison.

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Quote from: chris006 on May 13, 2013, 11:24:42 AM
Maybe Mark Madsen would be a better comparison.  No offensive skill set, just a tall, energy guy that can block shots and rebound the ball.  Not that I think Otule has the same tenacity as Mad Dog did, but at least offensive skill sets are a better comparison.

You mean two-time All American Mark Madsen?

COt isn't on the Stormin' Mormon's level.

moomoo

Quote from: windyplayer on May 13, 2013, 10:27:17 AM
Perhaps I should have made my post more clear "absolutely [INSERT: insanely, ridiculously, stupidly] ludicrous." My whole point was that I would not rule Otule out as an NBA prospect. Yes, he has one eye, but he's effective at a high level, which usually means you have a chance.

I guess you're right, suggesting Chris is like a poor man's Hibbert is as insanely ludicrous as suggesting vander blue is.....I don't know, maybe a poor man's....Tony Allen.
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RawdogDX

Quote from: moomoo on May 13, 2013, 12:38:49 PM
I guess you're right, suggesting Chris is like a poor man's Hibbert is as insanely ludicrous as suggesting vander blue is.....I don't know, maybe a poor man's....Tony Allen.

Exactly as insanely ludicrous, except that Blue and Allen are the same size, have comparable athletic ability, were both highly rated recruits and scored at similar rates during their last year of college.

moomoo

Quote from: RawdogDX on May 13, 2013, 10:50:46 PM
Exactly as insanely ludicrous, except that Blue and Allen are the same size, have comparable athletic ability, were both highly rated recruits and scored at similar rates during their last year of college.

Highly rated recruits?  you mean when they were 16?  yes, very important data when they have four years of playing AFTER that

6-11 280 and 7-2 280 are very similar in size, and as for their stats, rebounds per full game played and FG% are two very important stats for a big bodied center that doesn't move too well.

Chris Otule will be the Jimmy Butler of next year's draft.  No teal.


Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

RawdogDX

I respect your amazing commitment to trollism.  You have many people here convinced you are the dumbest person we have ever talked to.

moomoo

Quote from: RawdogDX on May 13, 2013, 11:30:37 PM
I respect your amazing commitment to trollism.  You have many people here convinced you are the dumbest person we have ever talked to.

take it easy rawdog, I am not looking for trouble and I really don't want to take you by your spiked collar and teach you some manners, my canine friend, so let's ease up on the insults.  You look at Hibbert and Hasheem Thabeet (number 2 pick in the first round)  and it is not crazy to think if Chris has a strong year, stays healthy, that he can't be a late first round pick.  A hard working, Marquette bred 7 footer who clogs up the lane, blocks shots, and rebounds, may be of interest to a certain teams.  If you disagree and think I am off base, that's fine, but right now he would get ten minutes a game on a couple of NBA teams.
Silenzio. Parla il moomoo.

RawdogDX

#48
I think you are trolling.  I don't believe you actually think that so i won't ask you to name the ten NBA teams that can't find a 6'11 guy who could grab 7 boards a game in college.  I'm assuming you read the article where Cadougan talked about needing to learn where to pass the ball so that Otule could catch it.  You are hilarious.  I wasn't being sarcastic when i said i respect what you are doing here.

moomoo

Quote from: RawdogDX on May 14, 2013, 07:33:12 AM
I think you are trolling.  I don't believe you actually think that so i won't ask you to name the ten NBA teams that can't find a 6'11 guy who could grab 7 boards a game in college.  I'm assuming you read the article where Cadougan talked about needing to learn where to pass the ball so that Otule could catch it.  You are hilarious.  I wasn't being sarcastic when i said i respect what you are doing here.

Ease up, dog. Someone disagrees with you (in SUPPORT of an MU player no less) and you immediately say they are trolling.  And then you insult them.  Take a look in the mirror, trolldogDX.
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