Update on Wardle allegations

[Doc]

Green Bay Press-Gazette interviews former University of Wisconsin-Green Bay men's basketball player whose allegations led to an investigation of coach Brian Wardle.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20130429/GPG020101/304290404/Bross-outlines-complaints-against-Wardle

[Dawson Rental]

It seems like it still has a ways to run, but that Brian isn't too worried about being exonerated.  I guess we'll see.  I was surprised to see that Wardle would have veto power over what classes a player could take when the class didn't interfere with practice.

[EnderWiggen]

>allegations of vulgar, demeaning language Wardle used against the walk-on freshman, and an incident in which the coach made an ill Bross continue a workout until he couldn't control his bowels and then ridiculed him for it.

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[keefe]

>allegations of vulgar, demeaning language Wardle used against the walk-on freshman, and an incident in which the coach made an ill Bross continue a workout until he couldn't control his bowels and then ridiculed him for it.

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Any guy who sh1ts his pants for whatever reason should expect to hear about it from his mates. Having your mother complain about it is weak.

[willie warrior]

Any guy who sh1ts his pants for whatever reason should expect to hear about it from his mates. Having your mother complain about it is weak.

Holy Crap, Batman. Literally. With these allegations, one can be assured of two things:
1. Wardle is in deep doodoo
2. Bross, or at the very least, his mother must have a hyphen in their last name.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I love how this kid's mother is trying to protect her poor baby from embarrassment by letting the whole world know he sh:t his pants at basketball practice. And she's trying to ruin a guy's entire career in the process.

[SERocks]

Wardle may not be concerned, but even if half true it shows he cannot evaluate people very well and if he vetoed the classes that he doesn't really care about the student athletes dreams or desires.  The course may have been hard, but as a coach if you are concerned about that you find a way to make it work for everyone.  And someone other than Bross may have taken the ribbing/abuse? in stride and developed into a better player.  Sounds like Bross is not that kind of a person.  He needed a different approach.  Coaches need to be able to evaluate how to get the best out of the player and being a dick/hard ass/pretty boy to Bross clearly did not work. 

So even though Wardle may not be concerned, I suspect this limits his job prospects in the future.  If I was a Division I Athletic Director I would have serious concerns about his ability to judge people individually and bring a team together.  Clearly the relationship with Bross  was not at a level where that stuff worked.  Kinda like a post I saw the other day.  Four people were holding up a sign that said "We miss you."  A fifth person was holding up a sign that said "Die *%^&#."  The note under the four was "friends" and under the fifth was "best friend."  The caption, "How to tell the difference."  You develop the ability to use those terms in strong relationships where the underlying meaning is understood and the love is simply present.

[GGGG]

This isn't the whole story.  Let the investigation run its course before passing judgement.  And remember, there is a difference between being an abusive coach a la Mike Rice and simply a coach that makes a series of poor judgments.

[Clarence]

The last line of his quote is classic

"So I just want someplace where the students coming in and the guys here, so that they don't get all the crap that happened to me."

[MerrittsMustache]

It seems like it still has a ways to run, but that Brian isn't too worried about being exonerated.  I guess we'll see.  I was surprised to see that Wardle would have veto power over what classes a player could take when the class didn't interfere with practice.

Unfortunately, this is not all that uncommon in college athletics. When Greg Oden got to tOSU he wanted to be on a pre-dental plan (biology major, I assume?) but was basically told "no" and was enrolled in blow-off gen eds.

[bilsu]

This kind of makes me wonder why James(?) Matthews beat the crap out of Wardle when they were scrimaging? It came across as Matthews had an out of control temper and he was shown the door by Crean, but maybe he at least had some reason to be mad at Wardle. For those of you who either forgot or were not around at that time, James was a 6'8" forward from Michigan that was suppose to be a strong rebounder. Wardle was an assistant on Crean's staff. They were scrimaging each other and Matthews had to be pulled off Wardle after he got mad at Wardle during their one on one scrimage.

[Hards Alumni]

This kind of makes me wonder why James(?) Matthews beat the crap out of Wardle when they were scrimaging? It came across as Matthews had an out of control temper and he was shown the door by Crean, but maybe he at least had some reason to be mad at Wardle. For those of you who either forgot or were not around at that time, James was a 6'8" forward from Michigan that was suppose to be a strong rebounder. Wardle was an assistant on Crean's staff. They were scrimaging each other and Matthews had to be pulled off Wardle after he got mad at Wardle during their one on one scrimage.

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Brian Wardle was kind of a douche.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

You guys are taking the side of the kid who soiled himself? In what universe does that happen and the offender is never reminded of it?

What is this world coming to?

[Ari Gold]

if I was this kid, I would have kept my mouth shut
Now there is a multiparagraph article on how he crap his britches online.

[Hards Alumni]

You guys are taking the side of the kid who soiled himself? In what universe does that happen and the offender is never reminded of it?

What is this world coming to?

I'm not defending the kid.  If he didn't want to lift weights until he crapped his pants, he didn't have to.  Wardle couldn't FORCE him to sit there and do it.

I was just saying that Wardle has been a known douche.

[Golden Avalanche]

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Brian Wardle was kind of a douche.

Did this become common knowledge after his playing days?

I went to school with Wardle. Knew him a bit socially. Did some projects with his now wife. Nothing struck me different then any other kid. Then again, it was college and hazy.

[Hards Alumni]

Did this become common knowledge after his playing days?

I went to school with Wardle. Knew him a bit socially. Did some projects with his now wife. Nothing struck me different then any other kid. Then again, it was college and hazy.

I don't know.  I went to school at the same time, and I've heard stories.

[Goose]

I think Wardle might be looking for new line of work in the near future.

[Jay Bee]

I don't know.  I went to school at the same time, and I've heard stories.

Well "stories" you heard at school = just the kind of evidence needed in this discussion.

The only fact that appears to be agreed upon at this junction is that this dude dumped his drawers.

[Skatastrophy]

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Brian Wardle was kind of a douche.

He's no Kinsella, but he's up there.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Agree with Goose, Wardle should look for a different line of work.  Apparently, he doesn't have the temperament to teach or coach. 

[mu_hilltopper]

I have to say that article is .. believable.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I've never met Wardle, but in watching the MU vs. UWGB games the past couple years I was shocked by his sideline demeanor.  I've never seen a more obvious Crean imitator, it was odd to say the least.

[Ari Gold]

ESPN Picked up the story

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9227839/ryan-bross-details-allegations-uw-green-bay-phoenix-coach-brian-wardle

Green Bay forward Alec Brown told local radio station WNFL he was "very surprised" by the allegations, which he refuted.

"Honestly, I don't agree with the things that are being said," Brown said. "I've been there the longest of any of the guys, and I feel like if I had personally seen any of this happening, I wouldn't still be here. A lot of this stuff is not happening the way it seems that it is."

When asked whether he thinks his teammates are lying, Brown responded: "Yeah, I believe so."

[GooooMarquette]

As a parent, I would rarely side with a kid telling his parents to "shut the fock up."  But if the kid said that to his mom in this case, he'd be totally justified.

Until the day he dies, everyone who googles this kid's name will learn that he was the kid who crapped in his pants at basketball practice...in college.  Every future employer, the parents of future girlfriends.  Everybody.  Gee, thanks mom!