Early Entrants to 2013 NBA Draft

[WarriorInNYC]

Add Myck Kabongo to the list

[MUBurrow]

Not really. In the past you could go through workouts and get some evaluation, but they changed that. Players declaring have until April 16th to remove their names, which doesn't give them any time for predraft workouts or to get much feedback from the league. Players may declare for the draft after April 16th, but may not remove their names from the pool if they do so after that date. April 28th is the cut-off to declare.

Thanks for that. Kind of a bummer - I always thought that letting kids see where they stand a bit was one of the few things the college-to-NBA transition did well

[leever]

Maybe that can be part of the wonderlic test.   Part 2 could be how lottery pick Mitch McGary scored only 2 points against soft Zeller, at home.  

B.  Because Tom Crean is the best coach.  Duh!

[nyg]

Add Myck Kabongo to the list

Another first rounder. 

[CAGASS24]

Anyone else surprised no Otto porter on this list yet?  Hoping he and Doug come back; should help the league immensely

[WarriorInNYC]

Per Goodman, Jamaal Franklin from SDSU.  6'5" SG

[Spotcheck Billy]

Tough SAT question.  How do you quote another poster in your post without getting your post mixed in with the first poster's quote? 

good question

[willie warrior]

Anyone else surprised no Otto porter on this list yet?  Hoping he and Doug come back; should help the league immensely

While Porter would add to the status of the league, he needs to strike the iron while he is hot. Besides, we do not need him around next year to cause us problems. Same with McDermot at Creighton.

[wardle2wade]

While Porter would add to the status of the league, he needs to strike the iron while he is hot. Besides, we do not need him around next year to cause us problems. Same with McDermot at Creighton.

MU and the NBE would benefit greatly by having a strong Georgetown and Creighton to compete against and build the resume, win or lose.  This first year of the NBE will get extra scrutiny as pundits, analysts, pollsters, and public make opinions.  As meaningless as we think those opinions are, they do affect the committee's seeding and likely recruiting as well.

I'll use your logic here... would you prefer MU schedule a weak non-conf too?  After all, quality non-conference games will cause MU more problems than cupcakes.  By using your logic, we'd want to avoid that too, right?

#feedthetrollsFriday

[willie warrior]

MU and the NBE would benefit greatly by having a strong Georgetown and Creighton to compete against and build the resume, win or lose.  This first year of the NBE will get extra scrutiny as pundits, analysts, pollsters, and public make opinions.  As meaningless as we think those opinions are, they do affect the committee's seeding and likely recruiting as well.

I'll use your logic here... would you prefer MU schedule a weak non-conf too?  After all, quality non-conference games will cause MU more problems than cupcakes.  By using your logic, we'd want to avoid that too, right?

#feedthetrollsFriday

No, I would prefer MU having an awesome non-conference schedule to include: Louisville, ND, Whisky, Michigan State, Illinois and a day time carrier game against theOSU. Get rid of the Northeastern Southwestern Triangular U's.

[Galway Eagle]

No, I would prefer MU having an awesome non-conference schedule to include: Louisville, ND, Whisky, Michigan State, Illinois and a day time carrier game against theOSU. Get rid of the Northeastern Southwestern Triangular U's.

That kind of sounds like you should just say you wish we were in the B1G

[jesmu84]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9163283/a-look-college-underclassmen-decided-undecided-nba-draft-college-basketball

No Marquette players on the list. McGary as a possible lottery pick.

[ChicosBailBonds]

B.  Because Tom Crean is the best coach.  Duh!

No no no. 

The memo here is this.

When IU wins....cuz of players.
When IU players develop...cuz of themselves.

When IU loses...cuz of Crean
When IU players stagnate...cuz of Crean

[ChicosBailBonds]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9163283/a-look-college-underclassmen-decided-undecided-nba-draft-college-basketball

No Marquette players on the list. McGary as a possible lottery pick.

I found this today from Michigan Live to be where my head was at last week....excerpt below




There are obviously concerns with McGary, notably his low sample size of elite performances.

He was a reserve who struggled with consistency all season long before exploding in the NCAA tournament.

He averaged 14.3 points and 10.7 rebounds during Michigan's six-game NCAA tournament run. But averaged just 6.2 points and 5.5 rebounds in the team's previous 33 games.

Are six games enough for teams?

We'll see.

"That's a huge concern," said DraftExpress.com's Jonathan Givony, who has McGary at No. 17 on his big board. "There's so many examples of guys who have had a couple good games in March which was an outlier of anything they've shown previous to that. Then they get drafted 30 spots higher than they would have otherwise.

"And then they fall on their face. There's no question that's in the back of every NBA person's head right now."

[Warriors10]

No no no. 

The memo here is this.

When IU wins....cuz of players.
When IU players develop...cuz of themselves.

When IU loses...cuz of Crean
When IU players stagnate...cuz of Crean

IU players develop? /halfteal

[ChicosBailBonds]

IU players develop? /halfteal

Yes, but despite of him...see that's how it works.  3 star Oladipo becomes a lottery pick despite him.  3 star Jordan Hulls...all Big Ten Honorable Mention despite him.  3 star Sheehey 6th man of year in Big Ten....despite him.  Practice the mantra, it just flows.  You'll get the hang of it.     / 5/8 teal

[77ncaachamps]

Updated P.V.E. (Post Vander Era)

FWIW, same site has 13lue going undrafted.

http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

[slack00]

Updated P.V.E. (Post Vander Era)

FWIW, same site has 13lue going undrafted.

http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

The same site had him entering the 2014 draft as most people did.  He and Jamil Wilson are both listed as mid 2nd round there.  Will be interesting to see if they move him in.

[brewcity77]

Updated P.V.E. (Post Vander Era)

FWIW, same site has 13lue going undrafted.

http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

Yes. And it hasn't been updated in 6 days.

[77ncaachamps]

4/19 update

Updated mock draft (4/17): http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

[AirPunches]

Not much of an update. Didn't McGary and GR III say they were coming back ?

Nvm. Thought your post said 4/19 update.

[Dawson Rental]

While Porter would add to the status of the league, he needs to strike the iron while he is hot. Besides, we do not need him around next year to cause us problems. Same with McDermot at Creighton.

I bet that there is still time for Marquette to reject the Big East and switch to the Horizon League to avoid even more problems.

[Dawson Rental]

I found this today from Michigan Live to be where my head was at last week....excerpt below




There are obviously concerns with McGary, notably his low sample size of elite performances.

He was a reserve who struggled with consistency all season long before exploding in the NCAA tournament.

He averaged 14.3 points and 10.7 rebounds during Michigan's six-game NCAA tournament run. But averaged just 6.2 points and 5.5 rebounds in the team's previous 33 games.

Are six games enough for teams?

We'll see.

"That's a huge concern," said DraftExpress.com's Jonathan Givony, who has McGary at No. 17 on his big board. "There's so many examples of guys who have had a couple good games in March which was an outlier of anything they've shown previous to that. Then they get drafted 30 spots higher than they would have otherwise.

"And then they fall on their face. There's no question that's in the back of every NBA person's head right now."

I know this was about McGary, but I was thinking of Vander the entire time that I read it.  Vander had a better regular season, though.

[brewcity77]

I know this was about McGary, but I was thinking of Vander the entire time that I read it.  Vander had a better regular season, though.

Isn't that a bit extreme? Vander was second team all Big East and the leading scorer on a team that shared the conference title. He was putting up numbers all year long.