Belling ranks Buzz behind Rice...

[silverback]

Apologies if this is old news...

I've been on the road again for work, but visited MKE during the Final Four weekend. I had Belling at WISN on the air for less than 20 minutes and managed to catch him discussing the Rice at Rutgers ugliness. He brought up Jake Thomas and said it's worse for Buzz to "take away" the scholarship than it was for Rice to abuse his players in practice. So, a walk-on leaves the team to get playing time elsewhere when there's a monster class coming in, and his departure is worse than what we saw from Rice.

Now, Belling is one of those Poindexter dweebs who knows nothing about sports – a scrawny, angry little boy who didn't get picked for dodgeball. Horse racing? OK. Great. But he so wants to be a big MAN who knows sports, he often pipes up about such things.

Am I right in assuming he rips MU more often now that the university went over to the ESPN affiliate in town?

[Skatastrophy]

Who is belling?

[Coleman]

Who is belling?

Exactly.

[El Duderino]

Apologies if this is old news...

I've been on the road again for work, but visited MKE during the Final Four weekend. I had Belling at WISN on the air for less than 20 minutes

There in lies your mistake. Every minute listening to Belling is akin to watching First Take on ESPN with Skip Bayless and Stephan A Smith, all wasted minutes of your life which you can't get back.

[silverback]

I get that he's a knob. Granted. I was just wondering if he was so anti-MU when ISN was the flagship.

[shiloh26]

Belling is in the business of saying provocative things.  I'm not surprised at any of this.  My guess is that this was couched in some soliloquy about how everyone these days are a bunch of wimps and coaches should be allowed to toughen their players up (by physically abusing them and using racial slurs), but that going against your word... or something is unforgivable (even though players transfer all of the time, for a variety of reasons).  

[Mr. Nielsen]

Mark Belling would have his facts correct, if Mike Hunt wrote a better piece on Jake Thomas.

[ChicosBailBonds]

MU didn't take a scholarship away...Belling is an idiot

[brandx]

Apologies if this is old news...

I've been on the road again for work, but visited MKE during the Final Four weekend. I had Belling at WISN on the air for less than 20 minutes and managed to catch him discussing the Rice at Rutgers ugliness. He brought up Jake Thomas and said it's worse for Buzz to "take away" the scholarship than it was for Rice to abuse his players in practice. So, a walk-on leaves the team to get playing time elsewhere when there's a monster class coming in, and his departure is worse than what we saw from Rice.

Now, Belling is one of those Poindexter dweebs who knows nothing about sports – a scrawny, angry little boy who didn't get picked for dodgeball. Horse racing? OK. Great. But he so wants to be a big MAN who knows sports, he often pipes up about such things.

Am I right in assuming he rips MU more often now that the university went over to the ESPN affiliate in town?

The bigger question is why you or anyone would listen to or care what the dirtbag has to say.

[JakeBarnes]

MU didn't take a scholarship away...Belling is an idiot

I miss Mr. Belding.

[GOO]

I haven't heard that name in years.  Kind of surprised that he still has a show. 

[tower912]

I rank Belling behind rectal warts.   

[chapman]

Who is belling?

This.  I thought it was some blogger with a few thousand readers, but lo and behold it's another thread about your WI radio guys.  Enough already.  You guys realize that someone posting their opinion on Scoop gets at least a few hundred views, while these radio guys probably get a few dozen listeners?

[MUFlutieEffect]

This.  I thought it was some blogger with a few thousand readers, but lo and behold it's another thread about your WI radio guys.  Enough already.  You guys realize that someone posting their opinion on Scoop gets at least a few hundred views, while these radio guys probably get a few dozen listeners?

I've always found this a particularly interesting notion to ponder.  Thinking of Hunt, for example - how many people read his articles that are NOT regularly on Scoop?  I feel like he is writing for an incredibly small audience (which makes it all that more comical how much time Scoopers spend blasting him).  At any rate, there's no reason to overreact to the opinion of a pundit who has no credibility beyond that of a dedicated fan.

[bradley center bat]

The bigger question is why you or anyone would listen to or care what the dirtbag has to say.

Well we can see you are on the left.

[brandx]

Well we can see you are on the left.

Why would you say that? The guy is the ultimate lowlife regardless of politics.

[Warrior of Law]

He's actually funny, but since Homer and MU left WISN he rips them at every opportunity. Oh well.

[jficke13]

Belling isn't very good at his job. Political viewpoint aside, some people are smart and talented when they do their work, right or left... Belling is not one of these people.

It's definitely possible to be on "the same side" as someone and think they're a nozzle.

[Sir Lawrence]

Belling isn't very good at his job. Political viewpoint aside, some people are smart and talented when they do their work, right or left... Belling is not one of these people.

I'm sorry, but this is patently wrong.  My personal politics are diametrically opposed to Mark Belling, but I will acknowledge talent and skill when it exists, regardless of political persuasion. He's consistently #1 in the radio market for his time slot, afternoon drive time.  He fills in for Limbaugh and, as such, has a small national reputation.  And yes, he says sh!t purely to get a reaction.  But to say he's not good at his job is simply not factual.

And he regularly rips on Marquette.   And he's a knob shine.

[AZWarrior]

I suspect Belling read Hunt's (poorly written) article and based his opinion on the information found there.  Garbage In - Garbage Out. 

So here I'm attacking Belling's argument.  I'm not attacking Belling.

This is a concept I'd like to see more often on this board.  I love this board and I get a lot of knowledge and pleasure from it.

The thing I'd most like to see though is fewer "ad hominem" attacks.  That is, when we see a person write something we really don't agree with, don't attack the person.  Instead, attack their statement or their argument.  Attacking the person is a classic argumentative flaw, and it's also tacky.  I'd like to think it's below the standards of this board.

OK - stepping off the soap box.....

[jficke13]

And yes, he says sh!t purely to get a reaction. 

If that's all he can do... does that really make him talented?

[bradley center bat]

Why would you say that? The guy is the ultimate lowlife regardless of politics.

I wouldn't say that at all. There are many things in the city that he stands up for that others don't have the balls to say.

[shoothoops]

The original poster would have a much less stressful life if the original poster listened to music on the road instead of political or sports talk radio.

[Groin_pull]

Well we can see you are on the left.

So?????

[bradley center bat]

So?????

Well, it just makes my point. People who don't like him are from the left.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I know I've said this before, but my "issue" with Belling is that he is soooooo wrong on certain issues (that I actually have knowledge of), that I don't know if I can really trust him on other issues that I'm not so informed of.

Some of his opinions on politics might be accurate, but I can't trust the dude at all, so he's just annoying to me.

[GGGG]

Well, it just makes my point. People who don't like him are from the left.

I know people who can't stand him that are clearly Republican...mostly because of what Guns said.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Oh, and just to add to what I said, I know the guy is clearly trolling sometimes, but then writes it off as "Having the ball to say what others won't!"

That's a classic radio tactic (so Mark isn't the only one), but I can't stand that.

[Goose]

Have love/hate feelings towards him. I definitely lean his way in political views but his often non factual comments on MU and other topics piss me off. No doubt the guy is talented and creates conversation. I just wish he would do homework before bashing MU every chance he gets.

[bradley center bat]

Most are with him on many things, example the Derrick Williams case.

[hairy worthen]

I know I've said this before, but my "issue" with Belling is that he is soooooo wrong on certain issues (that I actually have knowledge of), that I don't know if I can really trust him on other issues that I'm not so informed of.

Some of his opinions on politics might be accurate, but I can't trust the dude at all, so he's just annoying to me.

I have the same feelings about Belling, but what bothers me most is he is so damn arrogant and rude to his callers. It is to the point that it makes me uncomfortable so I do not listen much.

As far as him bashing MU, it gets peoples panties in a bunch and he gets attention for it. No different than most other radio hosts. There are little buttons on the radio that magically change to another station. People should try pushing those more often.

[mu03eng]

Some how I picture him at Victums right now reading this thread rubbing his hands together in delight at generating yet more undeserved attention.

This is what happens when you feed trolls

[Coleman]

I have the same feelings about Belling, but what bothers me most is he is so damn arrogant and rude to his callers. It is to the point that it makes me uncomfortable so I do not listen much.

This. The guy is a jerk to people who agree with him, much less those who disagree. He takes a call, cuts them off, does all the talking, and then drops them.

He's also dead wrong about so many factual things its hard to take the politics seriously.

[brewcity77]

Belling is like Skip Bayless. He opens his mouth specifically to get a rise out of people. Pretty sure even he doesn't believe half of what he says, but he knows that people will listen.

This quote from Private Parts sums up exactly what makes trolls like Belling so successful:

    Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
    Kenny: How could this be?
    Researcher: Answer most commonly given: "I want to see what he'll say next."
    Kenny: All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
    Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
    Kenny: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?
    Researcher: Most common answer: "I want to see what he'll say next."

[Spotcheck Billy]

The original poster would have a much less stressful life if the original poster listened to music on the road instead of political or sports talk radio.

good idea!

[Coleman]

Pretty sure even he doesn't believe half of what he says

I get that its a business and he needs ears and sponsorships and blah blah blah, but the listeners DO believe it, even if he doesn't. This is the problem with America.

[mu-rara]

Belling went on a rant about Buzz recruitng bad people a couple of weeks ago. (Based on MJS reports no doubt)  PO'd me so I called.  Asked screener if Mark had ever talked to a MU basketball player.  Didn't get on the air.

I am aligned with Belling on some topics, usually fiscal, not social.  I still think he is personally repugnant.

[bork]

I listen to Belling and agree with him on many points, but I will turn the station when he starts taking callers.

He also admits to not following college basketball much and prefers the NBA.  So I really don't put much stock in what he has to say about college basketball, especially since he has such an agenda against MU.

[SWARM!]

This.  I thought it was some blogger with a few thousand readers, but lo and behold it's another thread about your WI radio guys.  Enough already.  You guys realize that someone posting their opinion on Scoop gets at least a few hundred views, while these radio guys probably get a few dozen listeners?

Um, not close. Try again.

[Stringer Bellenson]

Um, not close. Try again.

Yeah, way off.  This guy is Fon du Lac's answer to Andrew Breitbart.  Huge media and political power-broker up in Appleton.  I personally don't like his elitist, anti-Catholic agenda, typical of the biased lame-stream media.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I listen to Belling and agree with him on many points, but I will turn the station when he starts taking callers.

He also admits to not following college basketball much and prefers the NBA.  So I really don't put much stock in what he has to say about college basketball, especially since he has such an agenda against MU.

But, this is my fundamental issue:

He doesn't know a lot about a topic, but it doesn't preclude him from pontificating about it and hanging up on anybody who disagrees.

[GGGG]

Yeah, way off.  This guy is Fon du Lac's answer to Andrew Breitbart.  Huge media and political power-broker up in Appleton.  I personally don't like his elitist, anti-Catholic agenda, typical of the biased lame-stream media.

 

[MerrittsMustache]

Yeah, way off.  This guy is Fon du Lac's answer to Andrew Breitbart.  Huge media and political power-broker up in Appleton.  I personally don't like his elitist, anti-Catholic agenda, typical of the biased lame-stream media.

Did anyone else chuckle at this line?

[chapman]

Did anyone else chuckle at this line?

I'm still super confused after reading "huge" and "up in Appleton" in the same sentence. 

[Stringer Bellenson]

I'm still super confused after reading "huge" and "up in Appleton" in the same sentence. 

Figured typing that sentence was the equivalent of using teal.

[Coleman]

I'm still super confused after reading "huge" and "up in Appleton" in the same sentence. 

Have you seen the average weight in Outagamie County?

[brandx]

 

My thought exactly to anyone that uses that term.

These guys are entertainers ( in other words - its about $$$$). Anyone who uses them to get their news needs to get a grip on reality.

[dgies9156]

To clarify the record -- as if any Scooper didn't know it:

1) Jake Thomas was a scholarship athlete at a university in the Dakotas.

2) He left after one year and became a walk-on at Marquette. There was NO promise of a scholarship.

3) Because of a series of unforeseen events, Buzz had a scholarship to give, which he awarded to Jake for two years.

4) Jake got two years of a Marquette education he otherwise would have had to pay for.

5) Jake went into this year knowing it was doubtful he would have a scholarship.

6) Mark Belling needs to get his facts right. Wouldn't be the first time he had that need.

[DegenerateDish]

When it comes to radio, I only believe in what Dan Bernstein tells me to believe in (or Larry Horse).

[MerrittsMustache]

To clarify the record -- as if any Scooper didn't know it:

1) Jake Thomas was a scholarship athlete at a university in the Dakotas.

2) He left after one year and became a walk-on at Marquette. There was NO promise of a scholarship.

3) Because of a series of unforeseen events, Buzz had a scholarship to give, which he awarded to Jake for two years.

4) Jake got two years of a Marquette education a degree from Marquette University he otherwise would have had to pay for.

5) Jake went into this year knowing it was doubtful he would have a scholarship.

6) Mark Belling needs to get his facts right. Wouldn't be the first time he had that need.