Would you take Detroit Mercy

[Benny B]

Providence is on the bubble right now. Dayton sells out their arena. DePaul and SHU are in a downswing but are loaded with tradition.  SLU has history with the membership.

Unfortunately, UDM just isn'tlassoing of those classes.  I'd schedule you 4 for 1 (though you may just want to take the buy money), but without a shock-the-world commitment to playing at the high major level, we can't play you twice a year.

[MUFlutieEffect]

Just because a team is in a marketplace, it doesn't mean it "delivers" the market to the league. For every 1,000 sports fans in Michigan, maybe 1 -- and that's probably being very generous -- cares about Detroit basketball.

It's the same reason we aren't pursuing Holy Cross to "deliver" the Boston market, Duquesne to "deliver" Pittsburgh, St. Mary's to "deliver" San Francisco, Florida International to "deliver" Miami, etc.

As it is, DePaul barely delivers Chicago, though at least it's a sleeping giant of a program that has been a big player in college basketball in my lifetime.

It's not the size of the market. It's the commitment of the school to the program as well as the program's likely success going forward.

Right on with this comment.  I can't imagine Big East games would begin to air throughout the Detroit metro area due to the addition of UDM.  

[swoopem]

If we really NEEDED to get the Detroit market Oakland is probably a better team

[keefe]

Keefe, when was the last year you lived in Michigan?

When Bo was coaching Blue!

Long time ago but Detroit Mercy was not and is not a factor in Detroit. People are more interested in Eastern in Ypsi than Detroit.

Let me ask, is UWM a factor in Milwaukee?

No, Detroit's sojourn for relevance has landed them in the Horizon League where they can take their rightful place at the Table of Comrades and find sustenance in the manly fellowship of friends. In the Horizon they are among peers and given equal voice in addressing the burning issues of that world. A man must know his place and find succor and comfort in that realm.

[Norm]

Providence is on the bubble right now. Dayton sells out their arena. DePaul and SHU are in a downswing but are loaded with tradition.  SLU has history with the membership.

Unfortunately, UDM just isn'tlassoing of those classes.  I'd schedule you 4 for 1 (though you may just want to take the buy money), but without a shock-the-world commitment to playing at the high major level, we can't play you twice a year.

Seton Hall has been to the NCAAs 9 times. St. Louis has been invited 7 times, with an 8th coming this season. Detroit has been there 6, and has a chance for a 7th bid this year.

[Norm]

When Bo was coaching Blue!

Long time ago but Detroit Mercy was not and is not a factor in Detroit. People are more interested in Eastern in Ypsi than Detroit.

Let me ask, is UWM a factor in Milwaukee?

No, Detroit's sojourn for relevance has landed them in the Horizon League where they can take their rightful place at the Table of Comrades and find sustenance in the manly fellowship of friends. In the Horizon they are among peers and given equal voice in addressing the burning issues of that world. A man must know his place and find succor and comfort in that realm.

Well, Bo coached from 68-94 or so, that's a wide time frame.

[keefe]

Well, Bo coached from 68-94 or so, that's a wide time frame.

I was there in the early 80's.

[MU82]

Maybe if Dickie V went back to coach and brought all his dirty money with him to buy players, and if he made a 10-year commitment to stay, Detroit would be a good addition just for the comedy factor.

[frozena pizza]

1.  It's just Detroit now.  No Mercy.
2.  I like Ray McCallum.  Other than that, no interest.
3.  Keefe.  Loved the picture of the kids.  Did not like the others.  Really undermines your view that you are better than all of us.

[tower912]

UDM is playing good ball this year.   I have watched them a couple times on FSDetroit.    Having said that, they would have to upgrade their facilities and their commitment a great deal before I would personally consider them a candidate for the BEast 2.0.

[MUMonster03]

Would you invite UDM to join the Catholic Conference?  Their play has been improving and it would be another midwestern team in the heart of a strong market.  I know they are not great, but they play a better game than DePaul, Saint Johns, Providence, and Dayton (proposed team) as of right now.  Any takers? 

You're best hope is to get into the A10 once schools leave. Need to show a record of success against better competition. If they are better than St. John's why did they lose to them this year? The only reason I am okay with Butler was the 2 tournament runs and the have held their own in the A10. Detroit just doesn't have the track record.

[keefe]

UDM is playing good ball this year.   I have watched them a couple times on FSDetroit.    Having said that, they would have to upgrade their facilities and their commitment a great deal before I would personally consider them a candidate for the BEast 2.0.

I really doubt they get an invite.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Some of you sound like fools when talking about Detroit. No way in hell they would be in the Big East. Media market, what market?  Detroit draws nothing for fans. Oakland is a better draw in Detroit.
I say this as someone who loves watching Detroit and know their fans who come to Milwaukee every season.

[mu_hilltopper]

Why is this befuddling? A fan of Detroit Mercy comes to the board to see what MU fans thought of them being in the new league, which I'm sure they'd like to be part of, as would many schools. As you can tell, most here are adamantly against it. Question answered.

It's like we just hung out the "He-man woman hater's club" sign, kicked out the girls, and the doorbell rings and it's a girl.  Like, didn't you see the sign?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIC8JTQMMQ

[The Process]

It's like we just hung out the "He-man woman hater's club" sign, kicked out the girls, and the doorbell rings and it's a girl.  Like, didn't you see the sign?

http://youtu.be/wBIC8JTQMMU

"This video is unavailable."

[Sir Lawrence]

1.  It's just Detroit now.  No Mercy.
2.  I like Ray McCallum.  Other than that, no interest.
3.  Keefe.  Loved the picture of the kids.  Did not like the others.  Really undermines your view that you are better than all of us.

1. It used to be just Detroit.  Now it really is UDM:  http://detroittitans.com/documents/2012/12/5/2012-13_MBB_Prospectus__120512_.pdf

2.  Ray McCallum is very likeable.

3.  True.

[mu_hilltopper]

Wild ..

The link is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIC8JTQMMU

with a "Q" at the end.  Not a "U" .. but every time I post it, Scoop changes that MMU into a MMU.  lol .. it did it again.  You cannot type M M Q. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIC8JTQMM    add Q

[Groin_pull]

Sorry, no way in hell does Detroit Mercy sniff an invite. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. Let them knock on the A-10's door if they're looking to move.

[The Process]

Sorry, no way in hell does Detroit Mercy sniff an invite. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. Let them knock on the A-10's door if they're looking to move.

Dayton's path to the 12 seed would be much clearer.

[Avenue Commons]

This a joke?

I'd take all those teams you mentioned (maybe not DePaul) against Detroit any day.  Hell, you guys didn't even win the Horizon.

Yeah, screw DePaul. The Catholic 7 don't need the nation's largest Catholic university nor the Chicago market. Not to mention DePaul's chances of playing in the United Center for free or getting a new lakefront stadium. Who needs it? What a waste.

Beat it, Blue Demons.

[GGGG]

Yeah, screw DePaul. The Catholic 7 don't need the nation's largest Catholic university nor the Chicago market. Not to mention DePaul's chances of playing in the United Center for free or getting a new lakefront stadium. Who needs it? What a waste.

Beat it, Blue Demons.

Been hearing the same sh*t for 20 years.  I'll believe it when I see it.

[keefe]

Been hearing the same sh*t for 20 years.  I'll believe it when I see it.

Concur. DePaul is like the Ottoman Empire - Sick Man of Europe/Big East. Lots of potential but never realizing it. They have been an absolute joke since joining the BE.  They have won 7 BE games in the past 5 years. That's pathetic.

[MU82]

Concur. DePaul is like the Ottoman Empire - Sick Man of Europe/Big East. Lots of potential but never realizing it. They have been an absolute joke since joining the BE.  They have won 7 BE games in the past 5 years. That's pathetic.

Not as pathetic as their one particular win in that time span that I remember all too freakin' well. Probably my least favorite regular-season game in 3+ decades as a Marquette student/alum/fan.

[Avenue Commons]

Been hearing the same sh*t for 20 years.  I'll believe it when I see it.

Every single thing I said is absolutely true.

DePaul is the nation's largest Catholic university.

They are in the Chicago market.

DePaul will either A) get a free lease agreement from the United Center or B) get a stadium built by McCormick Place. The days of Allstate Arena are drawing to a close. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20121119/BLOGS02/121119774/united-center-offers-depaul-free-rent-for-blue-demons-games

You don't believe DePaul will ever be good again? Fine. But that's a totally separate issue. DePaul has CONSIDERABLE strengths. Selfishly, it is a chance for Marquette to showcase itself to Chicago's massive recruiting base one night a year. Chicago alumns also get a "local" home game for Marquette. Those reasons alone are enough to want DePaul. Especially over Detroit. I hope THAT was a joke.

[keefe]

Every single thing I said is absolutely true.

DePaul is the nation's largest Catholic university.

They are in the Chicago market.

DePaul will either A) get a free lease agreement from the United Center or B) get a stadium built by McCormick Place. The days of Allstate Arena are drawing to a close. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20121119/BLOGS02/121119774/united-center-offers-depaul-free-rent-for-blue-demons-games

You don't believe DePaul will ever be good again? Fine. But that's a totally separate issue. DePaul has CONSIDERABLE strengths. Selfishly, it is a chance for Marquette to showcase itself to Chicago's massive recruiting base one night a year. Chicago alumns also get a "local" home game for Marquette. Those reasons alone are enough to want DePaul. Especially over Detroit. I hope THAT was a joke.

I don't think anyone is suggesting the conference jettison DePaul but they truly have been horrible in the Big East. They do need to get their sh1t together, though. It's easier to hide an oozing sore when you have 16 teams. Their incompetence will be an issue with just 10 teams. As you correctly point out, they have significant structural advantages and offer Marquette in particular select benefits. But they need to start delivering on the promise now for they will drag the conference down. Perceptions are every thing but the empiricism in this case is god awful ugly.