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[keefe]

Crean had a better understanding of what it meant to be a Marquette student-athelete than Buzz does.

Does that include directing student athletes to blatantly lie about getting hit in face by an elbow thrown by an opponent? As recent video evidence proves, Coach Crean orders his players to lie and cheat. The man is beneath our contempt.

[4th and State]

I can't imagine what this board would be if, God forbid, Buzz does leave.......Crean and Buzz 24/7

[NavinRJohnson]

No, it was showing the hypocrisy that is on this board...#4 Michigan craps the bed to a winless conference team vs IU losing to a team that has many good wins already this season.  I'm sorry you don't see the difference, then again you think ripping on a coach's wife is ok and not classless or calling someone a poster that they aren't.  I can't help you.

I don't recall asking for your help, so I'm good.

[Pakuni]

Does that include directing student athletes to blatantly lie about getting hit in face by an elbow thrown by an opponent? As recent video evidence proves, Coach Crean orders his players to lie and cheat. The man is beneath our contempt.

In what world does trying to draw a foul - a common strategy used by every coach - qualify as lying and cheating? I mean, you don't think MU coaches instruct players on how to sell a charge?
CDS = Crean Derangement Syndrome.

[keefe]

In what world does trying to draw a foul - a common strategy used by every coach - qualify as lying and cheating? I mean, you don't think MU coaches instruct players on how to sell a charge?
CDS = Crean Derangement Syndrome.

There is a difference between standing in the lane and trying to draw a charge. That is not what happened at Minnesota. Crean directed his players that the first to the ball would man up while Sheehey came from behind and fake getting elbowed. A flop is one thing but holding your face while falling down then writhing in pain on the floor? It continued as Sheehey stood up and walked to the sideline holding his face as if Tyson has cold cocked him. Sheehey couldn't even keep a straight face. meanwhile Tanned Tommy was running around, screaming about his man was injured demanding a flagrant 2. That guy should be disciplined. He is a disgrace to mentors and leaders everywhere.

[Pakuni]

There is a difference between standing in the lane and trying to draw a charge. That is not what happened at Minnesota. Crean directed his players that the first to the ball would man up while Sheehey came from behind and fake getting elbowed.

No, that's not what Crean said. You're making stuff up now.

http://deadspin.com/5987330/did-tom-crean-tell-his-indiana-players-to-flop-late-in-last-nights-loss-to-minnesota-heres-what-he-said-according-to-a-lip-reader?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[Tugg Speedman]

Do you think that guy is buzz?  I am not sure the average UT BB fan would even know who buzz is. Knowing how Texans think, they would want someone like Phil Jackson or coach k.

+1

If UT thinks they are the second coming of the 1970s UCLA, why would they think Buzz is the missing piece?

And regarding UT being a top job, yes Texas is fertile ground and the top FOOTBALL program.  But the state also has A&M, Houston, Baylor, Larry Brown at SMU, Texas Tech ... and Oklahoma and OK State are nearby.  It has tons of competition too.

[keefe]

No, that's not what Crean said. You're making stuff up now.

http://deadspin.com/5987330/did-tom-crean-tell-his-indiana-players-to-flop-late-in-last-nights-loss-to-minnesota-heres-what-he-said-according-to-a-lip-reader?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Am I?? In Tanned Tommy's own words>

http://www.lostlettermen.com/crean-instructed-ius-sheehey-to-flop/

[lab_warrior]

Please delete this before it turns into a crap storm. It would be for the good of humanity, and this board.

IF ONLY.  5 pages of this depressive case "Buzz is
leaving, WOE IS ME/US" garbage. 



And if we're going to warn about trolling, I think the
original post did a WAY better job than Chicos. 

Sooooooo.  When's fishing start?

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/fishing/seasons/index.html

[Abode4life]

IF ONLY.  5 pages of this depressive case "Buzz is
leaving, WOE IS ME/US" garbage. 



And if we're going to warn about trolling, I think the
original post did a WAY better job than Chicos. 

Sooooooo.  When's fishing start?

http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/fishing/seasons/index.html

Only on Scoop would a thread about Buzz going to texas turn into a Crean sucks, he's a liar and a cheater thread....

[Benny B]

There is a difference between standing in the lane and trying to draw a charge. That is not what happened at Minnesota. Crean directed his players that the first to the ball would man up while Sheehey came from behind and fake getting elbowed. A flop is one thing but holding your face while falling down then writhing in pain on the floor? It continued as Sheehey stood up and walked to the sideline holding his face as if Tyson has cold cocked him. Sheehey couldn't even keep a straight face. meanwhile Tanned Tommy was running around, screaming about his man was injured demanding a flagrant 2. That guy should be disciplined. He is a disgrace to mentors and leaders everywhere.

It is clear that Sheehey flopped.  It is clear that Sheehey was trying to hit Hollins' elbow with his face.  It is clear that Crean was making elbow gestures in the huddle.

However, it is not a foregone conclusion that Crean drew up or instructed Sheehey's actions.

Although, it is abundantly clear that Sheehey is not a drama major.  If he is, he should be deemed academically ineligible immediately.

[keefe]

It is clear that Sheehey flopped.  It is clear that Sheehey was trying to hit Hollins' elbow with his face.  It is clear that Crean was making elbow gestures in the huddle.

However, it is not a foregone conclusion that Crean drew up or instructed Sheehey's actions.

Although, it is abundantly clear that Sheehey is not a drama major.  If he is, he should be deemed academically ineligible immediately.

Listen to the video I linked. It is the second of the two. Crean lays it out pretty clearly.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Does that include directing student athletes to blatantly lie about getting hit in face by an elbow thrown by an opponent? As recent video evidence proves, Coach Crean orders his players to lie and cheat. The man is beneath our contempt.

Really?  Stop.  You have no idea what was said in that huddle and even the "professional lip reader" said so as well...so stop.  Seriously, stop.  It was a game, they lost, they tried to win, tried to gain an advantage....are you telling me that our players blatantly lie when the ball goes out of bounds and they all point our way when they know it isn't?  

I listened to your video...the first one has both ESPN announcers saying what a great move it was and absolutely they should try to get a foul called.  The second one says nothing of the kind...you make it sound like Crean is talking and it's the ESPN announcers. 

[Dawson Rental]

I can't imagine what this board would be if, God forbid, Buzz does leave.......Crean and Buzz 24/7

LOL, it is so true.

[keefe]

Really?  Stop.  You have no idea what was said in that huddle and even the "professional lip reader" said so as well...so stop.  Seriously, stop.  It was a game, they lost, they tried to win, tried to gain an advantage....are you telling me that our players blatantly lie when the ball goes out of bounds and they all point our way when they know it isn't?  

I listened to your video...the first one has both ESPN announcers saying what a great move it was and absolutely they should try to get a foul called.  The second one says nothing of the kind...you make it sound like Crean is talking and it's the ESPN announcers. 

Really? Get the sh1t out of your ears. In the second video that is Tanned Tommy speaking. Look at his gestures and listen to what he is saying. The title of the vid is "Crean saying watch for the elbows." You might take a tour through the Blogosphere and read what the entire college basketball world is saying about Tanned Tommy. If they didn't despise him before they got a dose now.

Here is the link. Again, it's the second vid titled, "Crean saying watch for the elbows." I listened with my Bose Noise Cancelling headphones. You can hear it a lot better that way.

http://www.lostlettermen.com/crean-instructed-ius-sheehey-to-flop/

[ChicosBailBonds]

Really? Get the sh1t out of your ears. In the second video that is Tanned Tommy speaking. Look at his gestures and listen to what he is saying. The title of the vid is "Crean saying watch for the elbows." You might take a tour through the Blogosphere and read what the entire college basketball world is saying about Tanned Tommy. If they didn't despise him before they got a dose now.

Here is the link. Again, it's the second vid titled, "Crean saying watch for the elbows." I listened with my Bose Noise Cancelling headphones. You can hear it a lot better that way.

http://www.lostlettermen.com/crean-instructed-ius-sheehey-to-flop/

You are absolutely dreaming.  Number one, there is no microphone in the huddle.  Period.  That is Dan Dakich talking at the end that you are hearing.  You can't hear anything that Coach Crean is saying.  Nothing.  There is no microphone to pick up anything.  You are reaching, big time here. 

If what you say is true, then why would Deadspin have to "hire" a lipreader?  DUh

[Goose]

Little Murs

If Buzz would leave it would be different IMO. The TC haters will be there but do not think there would be Buzz haters. If he left it would be a business/family decision and I think most would accept it. I have finally come the realization that MU really is in grey area and keeping a star coach is very difficult, especially with watered down new conference. a lot has changed in NCAA since Buzz got here and it will continue to change moving forward.

[Lighthouse 84]

You are absolutely dreaming.  Number one, there is no microphone in the huddle.  Period.  That is Dan Dakich talking at the end that you are hearing.  You can't hear anything that Coach Crean is saying.  Nothing.  There is no microphone to pick up anything.  You are reaching, big time here. 

If what you say is true, then why would Deadspin have to "hire" a lipreader?  DUh

 Agreed.  I only hear Dakich talking.

[tower912]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=110&f=2440&t=11235618

The Texas scout board isn't that active.   This thread has a tangential discussion of who they would like to replace Barnes.   Buzz not on the list.   FWIW, the posters who took the time said Brad or Shaka. 

[Skatastrophy]

Worst thread ever.

[hairy worthen]

Worst thread ever.

That is saying a hell of alot.

[mr.MUskie]

Anyone know if Crean does any fishing?

[keefe]

 Agreed.  I only hear Dakich talking.

I was just effing with Chicos.

[kmwtrucks]

Buzz would kill it in Texas.  The State in 2012 and 2013 had 8 ***** and 13 ****.  (Rivals)Texas has more home grown fans then any other school in the state.  Buzz would land 3-4 of the above every year.

I would not blame Larry or Buzz going home to take the Texas Job, and about 10 other Jobs would fall in that category.  If he leaves for a non top 10 type spot then I would have a problem with Larry and the Admin.  

[Dawson Rental]

Little Murs

If Buzz would leave it would be different IMO. The TC haters will be there but do not think there would be Buzz haters. If he left it would be a business/family decision and I think most would accept it. I have finally come the realization that MU really is in grey area and keeping a star coach is very difficult, especially with watered down new conference. a lot has changed in NCAA since Buzz got here and it will continue to change moving forward.

Okay, not Buzz, but Larry Williams would be in for it.