Those idiots on 1250 are something else

[hairy worthen]

It would be rare for an 18 year old to take into account the city or town their University is located beyond that University's borders. Parents may be aware but little Johnny isn't turning down Yale even though parts of New Haven are tragically depressed nor is little Suzie turning down Mississippi even though Oxford is still bound by a persistent strain of segregation.

18 year old kids aren't idiots oblivious to the world around them. They most certainly take the city into account, granted many other factors as well.  On top of that most high school students are making college decisions with heavy influence from parents

[JWags85]

The city itself? It sucks. Way too many people in not enough space. Hate having to drive through it. Would hate living there. Which is why I did not choose to even look at a college in that city.

What big city doesn't suck then?  Not trying to be an ass, but just curious.  If you hate all big cities, then that's fair, but in my experience Chicago is the most livable of the "big" cities (weather withstanding), when you start to get around/outside of the top 10 by population, then more arguments can be made.

[WarriorInNYC]

Don't ever say you have seen the worst fans ever until you have attended a sporting event in Philadelphia while wearing the opposing team's jersey.

I'm a Pittsburgh sports fan and went to the Pirates-Phillies game a few years ago right after the Phillies had won the world series, I only got a little friendly-banter from a dad with his kid to the game.  I was hoping to get ripped on, but it never came.  Now, that most likely had to due with the fact that the Phillies just won the World Series and the fact that the Pirates just suck.  I'm sure if I went to a Flyers or Eagles game, the story would be much much different.

That said, the worst I have personally been at was a Raiders-Steelers game in Oakland.  I had never feared for my personal safety as much at a sporting event as I did there.  The fans there would get inches away from my face, grabbing our things and throwing them around, out of control.  It was probably a good thing the Steelers lost that day, or else who knows what would have happened on the walk back to the car.

[ecompt]

Nice.  Although I always felt time moved slower in the 'lanche.

I always felt time stood still in the Lanche. Snuck in there wearing a sports jacket as a freshman when I was 18 and spent four years there. Maggie May on the jukebox, playing pool, 15-cent taps...heaven.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'm a Pittsburgh sports fan and went to the Pirates-Phillies game a few years ago right after the Phillies had won the world series, I only got a little friendly-banter from a dad with his kid to the game.  I was hoping to get ripped on, but it never came.  Now, that most likely had to due with the fact that the Phillies just won the World Series and the fact that the Pirates just suck.  I'm sure if I went to a Flyers or Eagles game, the story would be much much different.

That said, the worst I have personally been at was a Raiders-Steelers game in Oakland.  I had never feared for my personal safety as much at a sporting event as I did there.  The fans there would get inches away from my face, grabbing our things and throwing them around, out of control.  It was probably a good thing the Steelers lost that day, or else who knows what would have happened on the walk back to the car.

Baseball, in general is the best sport for road fans.

Even good teams lose 60 games per year, so fans aren't as emotionally invested in every single game. You can sit at most ballparks, and as long as you aren't a jag, people are pretty good. Nothing like a sunny day and a cold beer to make everybody friends.

(although, I have to admit, Cubs vs Brewers gets pretty stupid, but that is because there a members of each fanbase who take pride in antagonizing the opposing team's fans).

Football, because of the short season is far more intense, and thus people are more out of control.

[MerrittsMustache]

The city itself? It sucks. Way too many people in not enough space. Hate having to drive through it. Would hate living there. Which is why I did not choose to even look at a college in that city. And the Cubs? Awful. But hey, this is the year! Just like the last 100+

It depends how you live in Chicago. I lived there for 3 years after graduation. I took the L to work and could walk to numerous bars, restaurants and the grocery store. It can be an amazing place to live if you do it right*. If you have to drive a lot and despise traffic then yeah, it would suck for you. As it turned out, I didn't particularly like my job there, got a better offer in Milwaukee and moved back. As a recent grad in his early 20s, Chicago was great, but as a 30-something with a wife and kids, Milwaukee is much more manageable, the northern suburbs are a great place to raise a family and I don't feel like I'm hours away from downtown.

Growing up in the Chicago suburbs, I would have said that living in Milwaukee would suck and I'd hate it. I would have been wrong.



* - "right" obviously being something different for different people.

[Aughnanure]

It's weird, for how much I love sports, I can barely stand sports talk radio. I feel like the quality is always poor. Call-in segments are agonizing. I've heard of people hate-listening to opposing team's sports talk the morning after beating them, but that would just frustrate me too.

Also as a sidenote: I've lived in Milwaukee my entire life, and this thread was the first time I ever heard that there's a station on 1250.

I feel bad for Milwaukee sports fans. Kansas City sports talk is sooooo much more adult and sophisticated it's like listening to a completely different world. They find time to actually cover relevant sports during their respective seasons (huh? I know!), have experts and journalists on to interview every freaking day, and don't really allow call-ins to dominate any hour or segment. Instead, its just the 24/7 crap-fest about the Packers. I swear I hear more about Creighton listening to KC sports talk than Marquette in Milwaukee because they actually talk about the sport of college basketball.

I get the Packers are popular, but can the average Wisconsinite not bring himself to be interested in anything else? Cause that's the way the radio treats you guys.

[Aughnanure]

Have absolutelyno problem with the White Sox (even though a lot of their fans seemingly walk over from the trailer park to catch a game at the Cell...). For the most part I have no problem with the Bears other than Jay Cutler being a baby (he is) and Brandon Marshall trying to trash talk the Packers before yet another loss during their 2nd straight late season collapse. Have a much bigger problem with the 49ers, Ravens, Eagles, Vikings, Jets, etc. Have no problem with the Bulls whatsoever.

The city itself? It sucks. Way too many people in not enough space. Hate having to drive through it. Would hate living there. Which is why I did not choose to even look at a college in that city. And the Cubs? Awful. But hey, this is the year! Just like the last 100+

Excuse me, but where do you live then?

[jficke13]

I get the Packers are popular, but can the average Wisconsinite not bring himself to be interested in anything else? Cause that's the way the radio treats you guys.

I wonder how big the listener bases actually are for the genre in Milwaukee. If it's small enough maybe the programming directors just say "eh, do what you gotta do to keep anyone at all listening."

[JD]

You guys are being hypocrites talking about the NFL on a college forum board, when you say that the Packers are all 1250 talks about, take it to the superbar.

Carry on with the bashing of these dumba$$e$ please....

[warriorchick]

Baseball, in general is the best sport for road fans.

Even good teams lose 60 games per year, so fans aren't as emotionally invested in every single game. You can sit at most ballparks, and as long as you aren't a jag, people are pretty good. Nothing like a sunny day and a cold beer to make everybody friends.

(although, I have to admit, Cubs vs Brewers gets pretty stupid, but that is because there a members of each fanbase who take pride in antagonizing the opposing team's fans).

Football, because of the short season is far more intense, and thus people are more out of control.

I used to downplay all the stories I had heard about Philly fans until I saw it with my own eyes.

I used to work for a company that was based in Philly and a few years ago,  I got invited to see a Flyers/Blackhawks Stanley Cup game from the corporate box.  My Chicago-based boss, a bookish-looking man in his fifties, wore a Blackhawks sweater over his shirt and tie.  He got body-slammed into a wall.  Six-year-old kids came up to him, shouting "You suck!" and receiving high-fives from their proud parents. This was happening happening in the hallway of the skybox level of the arena, mind you.  

Worst fans ever.

[jficke13]

I used to downplay all the stories I had heard about Philly fans until I saw it with my own eyes.

If you think about other fan bases, most everyone has heard of at least one positive thing about every fanbase (example: the Cubs neat atmosphere!) even if it's small.

I have never heard one positive thing about Philly sports fans. I've never heard of anyone else hearing something positive about Philly sports fans. That's impressive.

Didn't they boo Santa?

Note: Edited for clarity.

[jsglow]

Just a quick comment on this Milwaukee vs. Chicago thing.  

I was born and raised in MKE and still consider it to be my hometown.  My daughter has been asked more than once why she is a Packer fan when she's from Illinois.  Her response is always the same.  My family is originally from Wisconsin.  Still, I've lived here in suburban Chicago essentially all of my adult life.  It has been a great place to raise kids and both warriorchick and I have had outstanding careers.  Such was not possible for us beginning in the '80s back home.  It's too bad because the brain drain out of Wisconsin at the time was significant.

My one piece of advice for all you cheeseheads.  Please appreciate what you've got.  Milwaukee is a wonderfully quaint city filled with lots of nice people with an outstanding quality of life. Take nothing for granted.  Because many places are far less attractive.  

[MerrittsMustache]

If you think about other fan bases, most everyone has heard of at least one positive thing about the Cubs (neat atmosphere!) or whatever, even if it's small.

I have never heard one positive thing about Philly sports fans. I've never heard of anyone else hearing something positive about Philly sports fans. That's impressive.

Didn't they boo Santa?

Most baseball fans who don't root for the Brewers or White Sox have very positive things to say about Cubs fans.

Yes, Philly fans booed Santa (in the 60s, I believe). They cheered when Michael Irvin lay motionless on the turf with a neck injury. And they threw batteries and debris at Dick Allen, the team's only black player at the time - brotherly love, my a$$!

[Pakuni]

Football, because of the short season is far more intense, and thus people are more out of control.

The great George Carlin said it best:

"In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.

In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being."

[jficke13]

Most baseball fans who don't root for the Brewers or White Sox have very positive things to say about Cubs fans.

Yes, Philly fans booed Santa (in the 60s, I believe). They cheered when Michael Irvin lay motionless on the turf with a neck injury. And they threw batteries and debris at Dick Allen, the team's only black player at the time - brotherly love, my a$$!

I realized after I posted that I wasn't clear. I meant, everyone's heard something positive about every fan base, even if it's small. However, nobody has ever heard anything positive about Philly's fan base. Apologies for the unclear post.

[bkooncy]

I'm originally from wisconsin now living in OKC, and would love to be back in milwaukee.  At least you can complain that your sportstalk station is bashing marquette, Down here they refuse to talk anything other than Sooners football and Thunder Basketball.  They also think of themselves as the best and most knowledgable fans around, when most of them don't know basic rules of the games they watch.  Being in the military I'm surrounded by fans of all different sports teams college and pros.  Some teams tend to be more arrogent than others from my experience.  The Giants, Eagles, Patriots, and Lions fans tend to be the most aggresive when it comes to the NFL.

[We R Final Four]

I swear I hear more about Creighton listening to KC sports talk than Marquette in Milwaukee because they actually talk about the sport of college basketball.

Unless,of course, there is a mention of negative MU news---then and only then will it dominate the local airwaves.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I used to downplay all the stories I had heard about Philly fans until I saw it with my own eyes.

I used to work for a company that was based in Philly and a few years ago,  I got invited to see a Flyers/Blackhawks Stanley Cup game from the corporate box.  My Chicago-based boss, a bookish-looking man in his fifties, wore a Blackhawks sweater over his shirt and tie.  He got body-slammed into a wall.  Six-year-old kids came up to him, shouting "You suck!" and receiving high-fives from their proud parents. This was happening happening in the hallway of the skybox level of the arena, mind you.  

Worst fans ever.

It extends beyond sports to, as far as I can tell, every living resident of the city.  I've never met a more uniformally angry group of unpleasant people.  Compared to Philadelphia,the worst people in New York City are like happy hookah smoking hippies.

[Eldon]

I used to downplay all the stories I had heard about Philly fans until I saw it with my own eyes.

I used to work for a company that was based in Philly and a few years ago,  I got invited to see a Flyers/Blackhawks Stanley Cup game from the corporate box.  My Chicago-based boss, a bookish-looking man in his fifties, wore a Blackhawks sweater over his shirt and tie.  He got body-slammed into a wall.  Six-year-old kids came up to him, shouting "You suck!" and receiving high-fives from their proud parents. This was happening happening in the hallway of the skybox level of the arena, mind you.  

Worst fans ever.

Hilarious!!  I'm from Milwaukee, live in Philly.  So far I've been to a Phils game vs the Brew Crew at Citizens Park, wearing Brewers gear and nothing but standard minor trash talk.  I also went to a Nova-MU game at the Wells Fargo center rocking my Jimmy Butler jersey, and I had people around me actually talking to me about basketball, eg, where McNeal and those guys all are nowadays, no trash talk whatsoever. 

I have yet to go to a Flyers or Pigeons (eagles) game, but my roommate went to a bar wearing his Packers jersey to watch the Pack play the eagles.  He went to the bathroom and some guys held the door closed so that he couldnt get out.  My uncle went to an eagles game here in philly and some guy knocked his packers hat off his head.

[Norm]

Don't ever say you have seen the worst fans ever until you have attended a sporting event in Philadelphia while wearing the opposing team's jersey.

+1,000,000

[jmayer1]

Most baseball fans who don't root for the Brewers or White Sox have very positive things to say about Cubs fans.

Cardinals fans would disagree with that.

Fans of other teams not located in close proximity are generally pretty apathetic of fans from bad franchises.

[Tums Festival]

When I was at Marquette there really weren't any Badger fans because both the football and basketball teams sucked. A few people were Badger hockey fans, but weren't at all obnoxious about it. Now everyone's a Badger fan and they're so arrogant about their teams. Having moved out of Wisconsin a few months ago has been a breath of fresh air.

[Dish]

Have absolutelyno problem with the White Sox (even though a lot of their fans seemingly walk over from the trailer park to catch a game at the Cell...). For the most part I have no problem with the Bears other than Jay Cutler being a baby (he is) and Brandon Marshall trying to trash talk the Packers before yet another loss during their 2nd straight late season collapse. Have a much bigger problem with the 49ers, Ravens, Eagles, Vikings, Jets, etc. Have no problem with the Bulls whatsoever.

The city itself? It sucks. Way too many people in not enough space. Hate having to drive through it. Would hate living there. Which is why I did not choose to even look at a college in that city. And the Cubs? Awful. But hey, this is the year! Just like the last 100+

As a Sox fan, I can understand where that stereotype comes from, but the average White Sox fan is a middle/upper class fan from the burbs. If you put the White Sox in Naperville, they'd draw 30k every game.

[warriorstrack]

Tuned into 1250 this morning and heard what was a broad stroked discussion of new big east, overall not informative, nor entertaining. 

Then listened to a 5-10 diatribe on How Buzz's program has players Crean would have never allowed on the team or would have kicked off the team, ?  how Buzz  is leaving after this year? about Buzz's ah' shucks mentality, the bat ?  Stephen Jackson's party that MU players were at? And in some many words painted the program in an unflattering light.  Every program has its warts, but how about a fresh perspective, some new thought about new BE, MU's prospects going forward?  The only person who had something to say about that was a caller.

Not saying they should be homers, (sorry homer), but a spin would be refreshing, maybe a fresh take on the sort of  new conference, not regurgitated stuff that does nothing to further actual dialogue and discussion of MU program and new Big East.

Disappointing

But our new BE conference has me buzzing, figuratively, and 1250 can't rain on my parade!