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Coleman

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 04, 2013, 07:32:51 PM
This is a common perception regarding german automobiles.  If you can afford to drive an Audi/BMW/MB, you can afford to service it. 



You'd think....

I actually know plenty of people driving German autos who really probably can't afford it.

Lexus is the best luxury value out there, IMHO

JD

If i had to choose the "Best Value" luxary car for the money, i'd choose a Saab.

I know it's not on par with the other autos we're discussing, however for the amount of fun, gas milage, and power behind the Saab Aero's and Arc's, i can't find a car that comes close.

It's a shame they went out of business, but i can't think of a car that is that much fun, fully loaded at about 30k.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 10:19:13 AM
If i had to choose the "Best Value" luxary car for the money, i'd choose a Saab.

I know it's not on par with the other autos we're discussing, however for the amount of fun, gas milage, and power behind the Saab Aero's and Arc's, i can't find a car that comes close.

It's a shame they went out of business, but i can't think of a car that is that much fun, fully loaded at about 30k.
They aren't luxury, and they are pieces of crap.  Ever since Ford bought them they totally ruined the brand.

Under no circumstances buy a Saab.

JD

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 05, 2013, 12:44:46 PM
They aren't luxury, and they are pieces of crap.  Ever since Ford bought them they totally ruined the brand.

Under no circumstances buy a Saab.

Ford?  Do you mean GM?

I've owned two of them, had great experiences with both.  Probably the safest vehicle there is out there.  I was doing 55mph, and i slammed into the back of a stopped cadillac with 4 older people in it.  None of the 3 people in my Saab were wearing seat belts and we all walked away without a scratch.  I highly suggest them if you don't have a 40k + budget.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

JD

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 04, 2013, 05:17:08 PM
Beamers are for douchebags.  If you have to go German, go Audi.

Great analysis...  If you like LED lights go with Audi...
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

MU B2002

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
Ford?  Do you mean GM?

I've owned two of them, had great experiences with both.  Probably the safest vehicle there is out there.  I was doing 55mph, and i slammed into the back of a stopped cadillac with 4 older people in it.  None of the 3 people in my Saab were wearing seat belts and we all walked away without a scratch.  I highly suggest them if you don't have a 40k + budget.


Now I can't value your opinion because you were foolish enough to be driving without a seatbelt.
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

JD

Quote from: MU B2002 on February 05, 2013, 02:35:01 PM

Now I can't value your opinion because you were foolish enough to be driving without a seatbelt.

My life is in Gods hands.

That's what i always tell people when they ask why i dont.  Yes, bad resoning, but if something is going to happen, it's going to happen.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
Ford?  Do you mean GM?

I've owned two of them, had great experiences with both.  Probably the safest vehicle there is out there.  I was doing 55mph, and i slammed into the back of a stopped cadillac with 4 older people in it.  None of the 3 people in my Saab were wearing seat belts and we all walked away without a scratch.  I highly suggest them if you don't have a 40k + budget.

Yes, GM.  My mistake.  If you read any reviews of Saabs their quality, reliability, and safety has significantly been reduced when GM took over.  There is a reason that Saab hasn't released anything since 2011, and it isn't because they are great cars.  They absolutely used to be, though.

I stand by my Beamer comment.  I would go Audi>Mercedes>Beamer if I were to go German... But I probably wouldn't.

JD

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 05, 2013, 02:43:29 PM
Yes, GM.  My mistake.  If you read any reviews of Saabs their quality, reliability, and safety has significantly been reduced when GM took over.  There is a reason that Saab hasn't released anything since 2011, and it isn't because they are great cars.  They absolutely used to be, though.

I stand by my Beamer comment.  I would go Audi>Mercedes>Beamer if I were to go German... But I probably wouldn't.

I agree with your comment that Saab went downhill once they were bought out.  I remember in high school owning a 9-5 and i had a lot of fun in that car.  Not to sound snobby or unamerican, but i'd take pretty much any vehicle maker outside of the US when it comes to automobiles.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

Hards Alumni

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 02:51:14 PM
I agree with your comment that Saab went downhill once they were bought out.  I remember in high school owning a 9-5 and i had a lot of fun in that car.  Not to sound snobby or unamerican, but i'd take pretty much any vehicle maker outside of the US when it comes to automobiles.

I think that used to be more true than it is today.  Personally, my wife and I both own Mazdas... which is owned by Ford, but they are both great vehicles.  I probably would not sell the car I own for 150% of what I paid for it.

dwaderoy2004

Quote from: JDuquaine on January 28, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
I had a 335i until it was totaled 4 weeks into its purchase date.   :'(

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
I was doing 55mph, and i slammed into the back of a stopped cadillac with 4 older people in it.  None of the 3 people in my Saab were wearing seat belts and we all walked away without a scratch. 

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 02:38:55 PM
My life is in Gods hands.


You are an unbelievably terrible driver it sounds like.  In god's hands, indeed.

akmarq

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 02:38:55 PM
My life is in Gods hands.

That's what i always tell people when they ask why i dont.  Yes, bad resoning, but if something is going to happen, it's going to happen.

This is borderline the most moronic statement I've read on Scoop.

Coleman

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 05, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
I think that used to be more true than it is today.  Personally, my wife and I both own Mazdas... which is owned by Ford, but they are both great vehicles.  I probably would not sell the car I own for 150% of what I paid for it.


Mazda is a Japanese car...fyi....3rd fiddle in Japan to Toyota and Honda

dwaderoy2004

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 05, 2013, 03:08:35 PM
I think that used to be more true than it is today.  Personally, my wife and I both own Mazdas... which is owned by Ford, but they are both great vehicles.  I probably would not sell the car I own for 150% of what I paid for it.

Ford used to own about 33% of Mazda but now owns less than 3%.

Bocephys

Quote from: akmarq on February 05, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
This is borderline the most moronic statement I've read on Scoop.

Normally I'd point out how impossible that is given the daily inanity that comes through here, but I think you are absolutely correct.

RJax55

Quote from: akmarq on February 05, 2013, 03:18:41 PM
This is borderline the most moronic statement I've read on Scoop.

FIFY.

JD

Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 05, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
You are an unbelievably terrible driver it sounds like.  In god's hands, indeed.

haha, when you put all of the comments together like that, it does sound pretty bad....

The BMW was totaled due to a 17 year old kid running through a red light at an intersection at 2:30 am. *his mistake*

The saab was my fault, i was 17 years old looking under my seat trying to reach my phone and i didn't see the car in front of me.  * my mistake*

All in all, not too bad.  I'm glad everyone was unharmed because that is something i wouldn't have been able to live with, lesson learned.
“I think everyone should go to college and get a degree and then spend six months as a bartender and six months as a cabdriver. Then they would really be educated.”

AL

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Victor McCormick on February 05, 2013, 03:22:42 PM

Mazda is a Japanese car...fyi....3rd fiddle in Japan to Toyota and Honda

I'm aware, I just thought Ford owned more.  I won't argue that Toyota and Honda are 1st and 2nd, but I'm not sure that is where Mazda is really going with their company image, but Nissan is. I think they aim to compete more with Subaru as a cheaper version, and the now mostly underwater Mitsubishi motors.  FWIW I think the 2013 CX-5 (what my wife bought) is head and shoulders above the RAV-4 and CRV, and that isn't just a Mazda preference.

I own a 2006 SPEED6 and there was no Toyota or Honda comparable in terms of power and handling... I would have had to look at Acuras, and Infinitis for

dwaderoy2004

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on February 05, 2013, 06:11:51 PM
I'm aware, I just thought Ford owned more.  I won't argue that Toyota and Honda are 1st and 2nd, but I'm not sure that is where Mazda is really going with their company image, but Nissan is. I think they aim to compete more with Subaru as a cheaper version, and the now mostly underwater Mitsubishi motors.  FWIW I think the 2013 CX-5 (what my wife bought) is head and shoulders above the RAV-4 and CRV, and that isn't just a Mazda preference.

I own a 2006 SPEED6 and there was no Toyota or Honda comparable in terms of power and handling... I would have had to look at Acuras, and Infinitis for

I also recently bought the CX-5 for my wife...have had it almost a year now.  Looked at the CRV and the Rav-4.  For what you get for the money, the CX-5 is incredible value.  Have had zero problems with the car so far and really happy with it.

🏀

Cannot believe no one has mentioned the Ford Taurus yet.

Meh...losers.

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 27, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Kinda partial to German-made cars, especially if you get to take the broad for a test ride.

Dr. 4ever:  Life is too short to waste on the Merc.  Say hello to a Porche.
Ludum habemus.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on February 05, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
I also recently bought the CX-5 for my wife...have had it almost a year now.  Looked at the CRV and the Rav-4.  For what you get for the money, the CX-5 is incredible value.  Have had zero problems with the car so far and really happy with it.

The only issue we have had is that the rear hatch doesn't have a light.  No idea how they missed that.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: JDuquaine on February 05, 2013, 04:06:54 PM
haha, when you put all of the comments together like that, it does sound pretty bad....

The BMW was totaled due to a 17 year old kid running through a red light at an intersection at 2:30 am. *his mistake*

The saab was my fault, i was 17 years old looking under my seat trying to reach my phone and i didn't see the car in front of me.  * my mistake*

All in all, not too bad.  I'm glad everyone was unharmed because that is something i wouldn't have been able to live with, lesson learned.

Fair enough...I'm not going to comment on your driving skills since I honestly have no idea.  But, if you truly "wouldn't have been able to live with" having someone be harmed in your accident, I'd suggest you require them to wear their seat belts.  It's all well and good if you want to take a "my life is in God's hands" view of the world, but your passengers' lives are in your hands.

/I reiterate my vote for Infiniti.  Seriously, if you haven't checked it out, test drive an M37x.  Great car.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

buckchuckler

#48
Best car for the money out there is the Dodge Charger.  Thing is freaking awesome.  

For less than the 50K (far less -- the stated price of the Mercedes)

You get full sized car, not a compact, AWD, 370 HP, heated and cooled front seats, heated steering wheel, huge touch screen, all the tech toys, blind spot monitoring system, adaptive cruise control, rain sensing wipers, the whole 9 yards.

Did I mention 370 HP?  If you want you can get it with more, or less whatever.  If you are more interested in mileage, the 3.6 gets you 300 HP and 31 MPG.  The 5.7 hemi works perfectly for me though.

Just a great car.  

WellsstreetWanderer

Beemer has 4 year 50,000 mile free maintenance.   My wife's  X3 gets 35 mpg on the highway with kick-ass accelleration for a turbocharged 4 cyl. 

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