No Moment of Silence?

[Goose]

I would say we may disagree on here about MU, Buzz or the admin, but very disappointed that anyone could question need for moment of silence. Not a political post by any means but yesterday was a horrible day in US history and any moment of silence or vigil should not be belittled or discouraged by anyone. I have taken crap from many on here and no have no problem with that... as for anyone saying this is ball board only I think you are unnatural carnal knowledgeed up.

[GGGG]

I would say we may disagree on here about MU, Buzz or the admin, but very disappointed that anyone could question need for moment of silence. Not a political post by any means but yesterday was a horrible day in US history and any moment of silence or vigil should not be belittled or discouraged by anyone. I have taken crap from many on here and no have no problem with that... as for anyone saying this is ball board only I think you are fracked up.

Seriously, there are English soccer teams wearing black arm bands in rememberance, and people here writing it off as "grief porn."

[Skatastrophy]

This whole "let me show you how much empathy I have" is lame. 

[Badgerhater]

This whole "let me show you how much empathy I have" is lame. 

+1

If there was an MU connection then do it.  Otherwise, it's a public display of people wanting others to see them empathize. Grieve with your families and ones you love, not in a basketball arena.

[slingkong]

The purpose of a moment of silence is not only to say a silent prayer to the victims and their loved ones, but to let attendees move on to celebrate the moment at hand.

Jesus, sometimes I wonder if people realize that they graduated from a Christian university....

I'm sure the families affected will not realize or miss the prayers of the 12-13,000 attendees at a basketball game.  Also, speaking of being holier than thou, you just blasphemed.

[Golden Avalanche]

I'm sure the families affected will not realize or miss the prayers of the 12-13,000 attendees at a basketball game.  Also, speaking of being holier than thou, you just blasphemed.

Sporting events all over the country, even internationally, showed some sort of compassion for that event. It wouldn't have been out of place for Marquette to do the same. Especially considering the Milwaukee region had experienced a mass shooting just a few months prior.

[GGGG]

I'm sure the families affected will not realize or miss the prayers of the 12-13,000 attendees at a basketball game. 

Really?  How do you know that? 

[pumata]

As long as we agree that I'm correct.

You are correct. The victims were kids and I am sure their families will mourn them with dignity. This 'we need to have a candle light vigil' impulse is weird. PTM is 100% correct.

[Hards Alumni]

You are correct. The victims were kids and I am sure their families will mourn them with dignity. This 'we need to have a candle light vigil' impulse is weird. PTM is 100% correct.

I tend to agree.  I think people do it because that is what they feel that everyone should just do in that situation.  It has become a social norm.

[pumata]

The purpose of a moment of silence is not only to say a silent prayer to the victims and their loved ones, but to let attendees move on to celebrate the moment at hand.

Jesus, sometimes I wonder if people realize that they graduated from a Christian university....

Who appointed u the moral Nazi? Candle light vigils cheapen what should be a personal mourning. Someone here wrote we rush to do this sort of bs when white folks are hurt. What he didn't say was where is the grief for people of color? I was at Marquette when Rwanda was bleeding huge Hutu and Tutsi human losses on an unimaginable scale. Why didn't anyone demand a moment of silence before any Marquette game? Then little spoiled air headed Diana greases herself with her billionaire boyfriend and the world convulses in agony? As a son of Africa my heart aches for the killings that occur daily in Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Somalia, etc... Where are all the white folks who so love their candle light vigils? Bunch of upper middle class kids get killed in Connecticut and it's like Diana drove into the wall again.

[Golden Avalanche]

Who appointed u the moral Nazi? Candle light vigils cheapen what should be a personal mourning. Someone here wrote we rush to do this sort of bs when white folks are hurt. What he didn't say was where is the grief for people of color? I was at Marquette when Rwanda was bleeding huge Hutu and Tutsi human losses on an unimaginable scale. Why didn't anyone demand a moment of silence before any Marquette game? Then little spoiled air headed Diana greases herself with her billionaire boyfriend and the world convulses in agony? As a son of Africa my heart aches for the killings that occur daily in Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Somalia, etc... Where are all the white folks who so love their candle light vigils? Bunch of upper middle class kids get killed in Connecticut and it's like Diana drove into the wall again.

And, there it is......

[pumata]

I would say we may disagree on here about MU, Buzz or the admin, but very disappointed that anyone could question need for moment of silence. Not a political post by any means but yesterday was a horrible day in US history and any moment of silence or vigil should not be belittled or discouraged by anyone. I have taken crap from many on here and no have no problem with that... as for anyone saying this is ball board only I think you are fracked up.

How do you feel about the Boko Haram suicide attack in a Catholic Church a few weeks ago that killed 12 worshipers and seriously wounded more than 150 women and children? These were Catholics gathered for mass! Where is your pain and agony and calls for a moment of silence for the senseless slaughter of fellow Catholics?????? Or is it their race that makes their death, pain, and suffering invisible to you?

[pumata]

Really?  How do you know that? 

Really? How the hell do YOU know that? Self righteousness is always ugly.

[pumata]

And, there it is......

That's right. There it has been for 500 years on this continent.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

That's right. There it has been for 500 years on this continent.

Not that any life has less value than the other, but the fact that this shooting occured domestically rather than in another violence-plagued country/continent might have something to do with the differences in response, as well as the timing of these tragedies in connection to other acts of violence in the US. It goes along the same lines as violence in the middle east. We are just desensitized to the regularity of occurance.

[GGGG]

Really? How the hell do YOU know that? Self righteousness is always ugly.

Huh?  I'm not the one making the assumptions that they won't miss the prayers.  

[GGGG]

Who appointed u the moral Nazi? Candle light vigils cheapen what should be a personal mourning. Someone here wrote we rush to do this sort of bs when white folks are hurt. What he didn't say was where is the grief for people of color? I was at Marquette when Rwanda was bleeding huge Hutu and Tutsi human losses on an unimaginable scale. Why didn't anyone demand a moment of silence before any Marquette game? Then little spoiled air headed Diana greases herself with her billionaire boyfriend and the world convulses in agony? As a son of Africa my heart aches for the killings that occur daily in Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Somalia, etc... Where are all the white folks who so love their candle light vigils? Bunch of upper middle class kids get killed in Connecticut and it's like Diana drove into the wall again.

Outside of the fact that you called me a Nazi, I honestly think you make some solid points here.

[pumata]

Not that any life has less value than the other, but the fact that this shooting occured domestically rather than in another violence-plagued country/continent might have something to do with the differences in response, as well as the timing of these tragedies in connection to other acts of violence in the US. It goes along the same lines as violence in the middle east. We are just desensitized to the regularity of occurance.

But the killing of Catholics in Kaduna, Nigeria was in a Church during a Sunday Mass. These people were slaughtered for the simple fact of their religion. I would think that rates consideration from a Catholic University. But I am not asking for a moment of silence for them. But I would expect it before one for what happened in Connecticut.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

But the killing of Catholics in Kaduna, Nigeria was in a Church during a Sunday Mass. These people were slaughtered for the simple fact of their religion. I would think that rates consideration from a Catholic University. But I am not asking for a moment of silence for them. But I would expect it before one for what happened in Connecticut.

I think you make a very legitimate point. Unfortunately, I am not so sure the media does.

[Warrior3211]

Really disappointed with a lot of the posts on this thread.  It's not about what countries have the worst tragedies, what race is involved, or how much money someone comes from... These are 6, 7, 8 year old kids who were murdered in cold blood in a place that they should feel secure.  The reason we highlight this event with a moment of silence is to put all horrific events into perspective and realize how lucky we are.  It's not all about whether those people in Newtown know we did it or not.

A sporting event is the perfect chance to take a moment of silence for any tragedy wherever it occurs.  It is a time for people to pray for those involved, reflect on any incidents all over the world that may be significant to you, and thank God for the blessings we have, such as having the opportunity to watch a sporting event live with family and friends.  There are families all over the world who will not be fortunate enough to ever do such a thing.  Grow up people... for those who are trashing this thread or will trash my post, I'll take a moment of silence in my day for you.

[tower912]

I am not opposed to a moment of silence, but pumata makes some very good points.   Were there moments of silence after the mass killings in Scandinavia involving dozens more children?    But we can debate this out to infinity.    MU chose to not have a moment of silence this past weekend.    Oh, well.   If I lived in Connecticut, I would be looking for a deputy for whom to buy a donut.   Triaging that place must have been horrific.

[pumata]

I think you make a very legitimate point. Unfortunately, I am not so sure the media does.

The media wants hype in order to charge higher rates for pushing All New reformulated Tide and Tampons with Wings. The essential point is that some upper middle class kids get killed in Connecticut and it is a big story. An attractive white women disappears in Illinois and her cop husband walks the streets free and it is a big story. A white infant goes missing in Florida and it is daily fodder for Nancy Grace. A white girl disappears in Utah and the press cannot let it go. Change any of that to African American and it doesn't register. There is more tragedy on a Saturday night between midnight and 4 am in Cabrini Green than in a year in Evanston. Where is Nancy Grace or Wolf Blitzer?

[brewcity77]

But the killing of Catholics in Kaduna, Nigeria was in a Church during a Sunday Mass. These people were slaughtered for the simple fact of their religion. I would think that rates consideration from a Catholic University. But I am not asking for a moment of silence for them. But I would expect it before one for what happened in Connecticut.

The sad truth is there are tragic killings occurring all over the world. And while these are no less tragic than the ones in Newtown, they are less-reported than what is going on closer to home. I would be willing to wager more people associated with Marquette had direct or indirect ties to the victims of the Newtown tragedy than there were associated to the Kaduna killings. And I'm willing to wager a lot more people knew about the Newtown killings simply because it has saturated the news since last week whereas I am sure I'm not the only one learning of the Kaduna killings for the first time in this thread.

I guess my advice would be to pick your battles. There is no doubt what you are referring to is tragic and warrants our attention, but under the circumstances, it's going to take a back seat to what is going on in our own country and you won't get anywhere by indicating that one is less deserving of grief simply because the victims weren't all Catholic. Just like trying to call it racism and then using the broad brush of "500 years" as though everyone who is white is still culpable for the atrocities that happened tens and hundreds of years ago.

[pumata]

And, there it is......

There is what? Need I remind you that the basketball team you follow, the reason you post here, is virtually 100% composed of sons of Africa. How dare you dismiss my comments with such a statement then go back to cheering for a bunch of black boys in underwear who evidently humor and entertain you. I spent 4 years at Marquette. I never truly felt accepted for the simple fact of my complexion. I know team members and have gotten to know Glenn Rivers. We compared notes and I can tell you that a black male feels the sting of racism daily and this was includes our time at Marquette. Ask Mr. Rivers how his fellow students felt about his relationship with his now wife Kris. Why should a man who truly stood as the face of the University have to hide his love for a woman? It was people who make comments such as, "there it is..." who deplore the uppity black male be it in matters of academic achievement, business acumen, or interracial relationships. I look forward to the day when we hold a moment of silence for the passing of the latent form of racism embraced by middle class whites who make statements such as the one I have quoted. Golden is the sort of guy who probably has "a couple black friends."

[JD]

There is what? Need I remind you that the basketball team you follow, the reason you post here, is virtually 100% composed of sons of Africa. How dare you dismiss my comments with such a statement then go back to cheering for a bunch of black boys in underwear who evidently humor and entertain you. I spent 4 years at Marquette. I never truly felt accepted for the simple fact of my complexion. I know team members and have gotten to know Glenn Rivers. We compared notes and I can tell you that a black male feels the sting of racism daily and this was includes our time at Marquette. Ask Mr. Rivers how his fellow students felt about his relationship with his now wife Kris. Why should a man who truly stood as the face of the University have to hide his love for a woman? It was people who make comments such as, "there it is..." who deplore the uppity black male be it in matters of academic achievement, business acumen, or interracial relationships. I look forward to the day when we hold a moment of silence for the passing of the latent form of racism embraced by middle class whites who make statements such as the one I have quoted. Golden is the sort of guy who probably has "a couple black friends."

For Christ sakes.....

I'm going to respect the rules of this board, but if we really want to get into fair/unfair and shootings/murders per race, etc i'd be happy to provide you with my email address and we can debate this.  Please don't pull the racism card because this tragedy happened in American in a heavily white populated area.  If the media was to report about killings in south africa, etc, there wouldn't be enough time throughout the day to report them all. This is a big deal because of the age of the involved victims and how often this doesn't happen. But please spare us the racisml lecture.