Vote to Separate Could Be "Imminent" | Notre Dame Inclusion Still A Possibility

[Aughnanure]

i think one of their motivations to stay with the C7 schools is to keep all their non-football in the same place, including hoops. it can't be easy to change over scheduling on all those teams. not to mention they wouldnt owe a buy out or be seen as traitors(though we would all know better). Football could still keep it's 5-game deal with the ACC, if it wanted.

the bigger question is, once the B12, SEC and B1G get done raiding the ACC of UNC, Virginia, VT, GT, FSU and Clemson, is ND still going to want to be alligned with the leftovers?

That's where this is a possibility. No conferences are done realigning yet.

[Benny B]

From an ND alum co-worker of mine (so grain of salt, here)... there are rumblings that the ND/ACC deal is extremely lopsided in favor of ND.  One rumor is along the lines of ACC having to share conference BCS/football money with ND but ND not having to share any of its own BCS/football money with the conference.  Another rumor is that adding ND was basically a break-even, financially speaking, for the conference... the primary reason ND was added was to give some cachet to the ACC in that hopes that it would stabilize the conference (if so, spec-freakin'-tacular job, ACC).

I've always thought that the ACC was merely trying to get a foot in the door in the hopes that ND's indi-football may crumble some day and the ACC would be there to pick up the pieces.  In about four weeks, the independence of ND football might just be solidified for a generation.

So albeit extremely unlikely, consider the possibility that the ACC could be having some buyer's remorse.

[EnderWiggen]

In about four weeks, the independence of ND football might just be solidified for a generation.

Are you implying that ND stands a chance against alabama?   

[KipsBayEagle]

There are actually quite a few decent reasons why ND would be open to leaving the acc and joining the catholic league (I am not saying that they will, nor that it is likely.  (1)  The implementation of a bcs playoff system means that winning your bcs league is nowhere near as significant as before, since playoffs will be based off of computer rankings, not automatic bowl births (2)  the addition of louisville along with pitt and syracuse is further deteriorating a football league that is suspect at best.  Because Notre Dame must play 4 or 5 (can't remember) football games a year against acc teams, a potential murders row of duke, wake forest, louisville, pitt could mean serious drop in not only prestige/ marketability, money, and aura, but also hurt their chances at bcs playoff births  (3)  This is simply my gut, but notre dame I feel genuinely feels sorry for the catholic schools left in the lurch.  Notre Dame could have joined any league at a drop of a hat, still can, but instead decided to stick it out with the big east for as long as was realistically possible and (4) in a revolving landscape where rivalry and tradition is gone, and teams don't even have geographic connections, a catholic league could have and develop real, genuine rivalries and identity that just won't happen in these new super conferences

[Benny B]

Are you implying that ND stands a chance against alabama?   

Hate to say it, but if it blows up the ACC, darn straight I'd be pulling for the domers.

[Aughnanure]

This now:

@McMurphyESPN BIg East hoops schools expected to release statement on future plans in coming days. Source told @espn would be an "upset" if they remained

https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/279086709734510592

[honkytonk]

There are actually quite a few decent reasons why ND would be open to leaving the acc and joining the catholic league (I am not saying that they will, nor that it is likely.  (1)  The implementation of a bcs playoff system means that winning your bcs league is nowhere near as significant as before, since playoffs will be based off of computer rankings, not automatic bowl births (2)  the addition of louisville along with pitt and syracuse is further deteriorating a football league that is suspect at best.  Because Notre Dame must play 4 or 5 (can't remember) football games a year against acc teams, a potential murders row of duke, wake forest, louisville, pitt could mean serious drop in not only prestige/ marketability, money, and aura, but also hurt their chances at bcs playoff births  (3)  This is simply my gut, but notre dame I feel genuinely feels sorry for the catholic schools left in the lurch.  Notre Dame could have joined any league at a drop of a hat, still can, but instead decided to stick it out with the big east for as long as was realistically possible and (4) in a revolving landscape where rivalry and tradition is gone, and teams don't even have geographic connections, a catholic league could have and develop real, genuine rivalries and identity that just won't happen in these new super conferences

Notre Dame's AD has said several times over the last 18 months or so how difficult it was becoming to schedule games as an indy. PLaying 5 games against ACC opponents helped them out tremendously. Also, ND actually liked the additions of Syracuse and Pitt - they have solid history with both of those schools in football, especially Pitt. Then, add in their history with BC and ND's 5 game agreement looks really good to them (Im pretty sure they had deals with all three of those schools prior to even committing to the ACC).

[Oregon Warrior]

ND joined the ACC so that they have access to the Orange Bowl and the ACC's non-BCS bowl tie-ins. They could have been left out of the bowls altogether had they not made this move. ND is not going to stay with the catholic schools under any scenario.

[MUBasketball]

ND is not going to stay with the catholic schools under any scenario.

Exactly.