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MUCrisco

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Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 12, 2012, 01:46:37 PM

But Crisco, they would already be in a ten-team conference.  (Assuming ECU becomes a full member and Boise and SDSU go elsewhere.)

UConn, Temple, Cincy, USF, UCF, Memphis, Houston, SMU, Tulane and ECU.

So why would they park their other programs in another conference?  And if they do, what do the other seven members do?

As much as we like the idea what we can cherry pick the programs we want, the best and long-term most likely scenario is a clean break.  They get a 10 school, all-sports league.  We get a 7 school, basketball league with the ability to hand pick the best basketball programs from elsewhere.

And this is why I think this will eventually get negotiated.  The basketball schools keep the Big East name and MSG.  The football schools keep their new BCS playoff tie-in.  They split the NCAA credits based on past performance.    
I know this is a stretch, but I'm basing my conference setup on the Gtown post where he heard that the hoops schools can keep Temple, Memphis, Cincy, and UConn.  You may well be right.  Personally, I think Memphis and Temple would want the best of both worlds by being in that football conference, and our basketball conference.  Also, I think Cincy and UConn are out.  Again, these are just my personal opinions.

Edit: Also, if they keep the BCS tie in, why would San Diego St and Boise St leave?  Honest question since I refuse to follow football now.

GGGG

Quote from: MUCrisco on December 12, 2012, 01:51:21 PM
Edit: Also, if they keep the BCS tie in, why would San Diego St and Boise St leave?  Honest question since I refuse to follow football now.


That's a good question.  Here is the answer.

Under the new BCS playoff, the Big East is out of the "power conference" structure.  That goes to the ACC, Big 12, Big 10, SEC, and Pac 12.  The Big East is part of the next level - the "group of five" - along with the Mountain West, MAC, Conference USA and Sun Belt.  So they will get roughly equal money and access in either conference.

They stuck with the Big East because I think they thought they would get increased television revenue.  But I don't think that would happen with those ten schools.  I am making the assumption that they would go back to the MWC, hat in hand.

Here is a summary:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bowls/2012/12/11/college-football-bcs-playoff-revenue-money-distribution-payouts/1762709/

MUCrisco

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 12, 2012, 01:59:38 PM

That's a good question.  Here is the answer.

Under the new BCS playoff, the Big East is out of the "power conference" structure.  That goes to the ACC, Big 12, Big 10, SEC, and Pac 12.  The Big East is part of the next level - the "group of five" - along with the Mountain West, MAC, Conference USA and Sun Belt.  So they will get roughly equal money and access in either conference.

They stuck with the Big East because I think they thought they would get increased television revenue.  But I don't think that would happen with those ten schools.  I am making the assumption that they would go back to the MWC, hat in hand.

Here is a summary:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bowls/2012/12/11/college-football-bcs-playoff-revenue-money-distribution-payouts/1762709/
Makes sense.  Thanks.

Aughnanure

Let's not go too far with this idea for football-playing schools. Sure UMass, UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, BYU, UNLV, SDSU would be nice...but why would they not just team up themselves. All will eventually leave, or are a threat to, unless they relegate football to FCS..

“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

Aughnanure

If we really wanted to grab Gonzaga:


East
St. Johns
Providence
Seton Hall
Villanova

Atlantic
Georgetown
Xavier
Richmond
Dayton

Midwest
Butler
Marquette
DePaul
St. Louis

West
Creighton
Wichita St
Gonzaga
San Francisco (Jesuit, 3 national titles)
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

brewcity77

Quote from: Aughnanure on December 12, 2012, 02:24:25 PM
Let's not go too far with this idea for football-playing schools. Sure UMass, UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, BYU, UNLV, SDSU would be nice...but why would they not just team up themselves. All will eventually leave, or are a threat to, unless they relegate football to FCS..

I think to start, you simply go with the ones that are here (UConn, Cincy, USF) and the ones that are imminent with high-level basketball programs (Temple, Memphis). And you only take all of them if you have at least 10 non-football schools to ensure a 2/3 majority in all things. Beyond that, you only take others (BYU, UNLV, etc) if and when the current football-playing schools leave, and only if you feel they have more value than a non-football school like Gonzaga or Creighton.

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