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Harbaugh Arrogance

Started by unforgiven, December 04, 2012, 11:34:10 AM

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Lennys Tap

#50
Quote from: LittleMurs on December 05, 2012, 10:45:50 AM
I'm always amazed at the hostility that can be expressed by some in the military against those they are sworn to protect.  

But not by the hostility that can be expressed by some of those being protected toward the military? Interesting.

GGGG

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 05, 2012, 11:13:16 AM
But not by the hostility that can be expressed by some of those being protected toward the moilitary? Interesting.


Oh great...now I was being "hostile." 

So can I Godwin the thread by referring to myself as Hitler???

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 05, 2012, 11:15:49 AM

Oh great...now I was being "hostile." 

So can I Godwin the thread by referring to myself as Hitler???


Lennys Tap

#53
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 05, 2012, 11:15:49 AM

Oh great...now I was being "hostile."  

So can I Godwin the thread by referring to myself as Hitler???

Did I even mention you? Murs, who I assume is much younger than me, evidently wasn't around in the late 60s/early to mid 70s when those sworn to protect us were routinely called the most vile of things - baby killers, pigs, etc. Those attitudes still exist today, though they're not as openly expressed because it's a loser politically.

Stop being so sensitive. You made an unfunny and in kind of bad taste remark. I don't think anyone is saying that makes you a bad person (most of us have inadvertantly done the same type of thing). Owning it and apologizing is more effective than getting so defensive.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 05, 2012, 11:40:54 AM
Did I even mention you? Murs, who I assume is much younger than me, evidently wasn't around in the late 60s/early to mid 70s when those sworn to protect us were routinely called the most vile of things - baby killers, pigs, etc. Those attitudes still exist today, though they're not as openly expressed because it's a loser politically.

Stop being so sensitive. You made an unfunny in kind of bad taste remark. I don't think anyone is saying that makes you a bad person (most of us have inadvertantly done the same type of thing). Owning it and apologizing is more effective than getting so defensive.

Personally, I think we should keep talking about it.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 05, 2012, 11:15:49 AM

Oh great...now I was being "hostile." 

So can I Godwin the thread by referring to myself as Hitler???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

still my favorite thing to post in a forum... I don't get to do it often, but I'm glad you knew the name.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: reinko on December 05, 2012, 10:01:56 AM
One of my fav's, always has the family rolling at the Thanksgiving table.

I guess that's the difference between your family and mine.  At our house, whenever it comes up at Thanksgiving, everyone groans, "Not this  again, Grandma...."
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

real chili 83

Quote from: g0lden3agle on December 05, 2012, 10:53:31 AM
In before the lock

I was thinking the same.......

Must be stress from the Florida game, passing of Rick, conference merry go round, full moon, strife in the middle east, upcoming badger game, the realization that kenowsha warrior actually started a good thread, the retelling of the story about rick almost going to work at nosepicker U., the looming fiscal cliff, dryer is on the fritz and the in-laws are staying with us for the forseable future, blah blah blah.

In before the lock.  ;D

Bocephys


GGGG

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 05, 2012, 11:40:54 AM
Did I even mention you? Murs, who I assume is much younger than me, evidently wasn't around in the late 60s/early to mid 70s when those sworn to protect us were routinely called the most vile of things - baby killers, pigs, etc. Those attitudes still exist today, though they're not as openly expressed because it's a loser politically.

Stop being so sensitive. You made an unfunny and in kind of bad taste remark. I don't think anyone is saying that makes you a bad person (most of us have inadvertantly done the same type of thing). Owning it and apologizing is more effective than getting so defensive.


Actually I am completely unapologetic and am not defensive in the least.  I find the **OUTRAGE** to be amusing.

Bocephys

Quote from: real chili 83 on December 05, 2012, 12:40:45 PM
I was thinking the same.......

Must be stress from the Florida game, passing of Rick, conference merry go round, full moon, strife in the middle east, upcoming badger game, the realization that kenowsha warrior actually started a good thread, the retelling of the story about rick almost going to work at nosepicker U., the looming fiscal cliff, dryer is on the fritz and the in-laws are staying with us for the forseable future, blah blah blah.

In before the lock.  ;D


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: reinko on December 05, 2012, 09:48:00 AM
If could make a list of things that are sad and sensitive and that people should never make a joke about it please also include:

~Racism
~Poverty
~Gay people
~9/11
~Drugs
~Abortion
~Death
~Religion
~And basically every episode of South Park, every standup routine by George Carlin, Louis CK, Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle...



I love the idea of the list.  Let's make sure to caveat the exceptions to the rule, however.

For example, one's wife or spouse is typically a no-no and would be on the list.  EXCEPTION:  If it's a former coaches' wife then you are free (apparently) to bash away here (based on past history).   ;)




Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Pakuni on December 05, 2012, 09:52:25 AM
Did you ever hear the one about the gay priest and the poor black woman who died of a drug overdose after having an abortion on 9/11?

The talent agent looked down at their lifeless bodies and said, "I wonder what they called that act?"  The world would never know it was The Aristocrats.

mu03eng

Novel concept, but both the joke teller and the outraged responders are in the "wrong". 

Was the joke in poor taste, I think so but nothing should be off limits, that's the whole point of free speech and why the military defends it. 

Those who are outraged and have every right to say so, as they are expressing themselves, but that doesn't mean they should force an action(apology) from Sultin because of their outrage.

The fact that someone seemed to create a serious list of items that shouldn't be joked about is the most disturbing thing in this thread, in my opinion.....however feel free to do it, that's your right   ;D

As far as PTSD itself, I'd be curious to see who on this thread has actually experienced PTSD themselves or a close friend/relative and who has only heard about it.  I think it would put an interesting frame around everyone's reaction.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

MerrittsMustache

Simple solution: Sultan just needs to say that HE has PTSD and then he would be "allowed" to make that joke without getting any pushback.

Pakuni

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on December 05, 2012, 01:43:05 PM
Simple solution: Sultan just needs to say that HE has PTSD and then he would be "allowed" to make that joke without getting any pushback.

Why do people with PTSD get to say the "P" acronym, but if I say it I'm a bad guy?

GGGG

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on December 05, 2012, 01:43:05 PM
Simple solution: Sultan just needs to say that HE has PTSD and then he would be "allowed" to make that joke without getting any pushback.

Only after reading this thread.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Sultan is the new Tim Whatley.

NersEllenson

Quote from: lab_warrior on December 05, 2012, 10:29:23 AM
Okay.

http://www.youtube.com/v/hSp8IyaKCs0&fs=1&source=uds

Having found that, though, I am not disagreeing with you that the joke was in poor taste.  But, let's be adults, grow up, and move on.  You know, sort of like coming here and posting the about the RELATIVES of a former coach who left 6 years ago.

Good find...and you'll notice that there is very little laughter at the premise of his joke, but huge applause at the end when Karlin uses the topic to speak to Vietnam Vets getting the attention/help they deserved..the audience recognizing the reality of Shell Shock, Operational Exhaustion, PTSD - whatever you want to call it - yet people/government/whomever turning their back to the reality.

Regardless, dumb that we are even debating the merits of PTSD jokes.

"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

lab_warrior

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on December 05, 2012, 02:13:59 PM
Sultan is the new Tim Whatley.

"And this offends you as a Jewish person?"

"No, it offends me as a comedian."

http://www.youtube.com/v/mV7m6IIN_tI&fs=1&source=uds

NersEllenson

Quote from: Aughnanure on December 05, 2012, 10:30:49 AM
Describe the potential danger please. Feelings get hurt?

Yes - I'd say to make light of or ridicule a very real condition many soldiers deal with, for having protected/defended the rest of us - could result in hurt feelings among soldiers.  Soldiers risk their lives for all of us - including dudes like you - who apparently feel no harm/no foul in making light/joke out of serious and tragic outcome for many who've been in combat.  

But hey, those of us who defend, appreciate, and have gratitude for those who have served and put their life on the line for us - we are the real danger.  Not dudes like you who apparently are ungrateful, or at minimum, lack the decency and respect to not ridicule PTSD.  
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 05, 2012, 12:57:59 PM

Actually I am completely unapologetic and am not defensive in the least.  I find the **OUTRAGE** to be amusing.

Fair enough. I generally agree that no subject/topic is off limits for humor, and I've taken some grief here for saying so. Don't apologize, except for the fact that the joke kinda bombed.

MU82

Try making fun of the prophet Muhammad. That always goes over well with a large segment of the world.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

swoopem

And now for some jokes:

How do you turn a dishwasher into a snowblower?

Giver her a shovel.
___________________________________________
What do midget Mexicans use to cut their pizza?

Little Ceasers
____________________________________________
A daughter asked her mom how to spell the word penis?

Her mom said you should've asked me last night it was at the tip of my tongue.
Bring back FFP!!!

Aughnanure

Quote from: Ners on December 05, 2012, 02:29:48 PM
Yes - I'd say to make light of or ridicule a very real condition many soldiers deal with, for having protected/defended the rest of us - could result in hurt feelings among soldiers.  Soldiers risk their lives for all of us - including dudes like you - who apparently feel no harm/no foul in making light/joke out of serious and tragic outcome for many who've been in combat.  

But hey, those of us who defend, appreciate, and have gratitude for those who have served and put their life on the line for us - we are the real danger.  Not dudes like you who apparently are ungrateful, or at minimum, lack the decency and respect to not ridicule PTSD.  

So what you're saying is, no?
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence