Notre Dame to ACC

[Niv Berkowitz]

Dear Notre Dame,
Make the check payable to Big East Conference and good riddance. Enjoy that rivalry with Clemson and going 6-12 in the ACC every year.
Thank you.

Dear ecompt,

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[Aughnanure]

Take it for what it's worth. He's being somewhat respected by UConn posters.


‏@MHver3
Hearing the ACC could add one more non football school if ND joins.

[LON]

Yep yep and yep. I know the BEast has been trumpeting the "we've grown!" message for a couple years now and frankly, who can blame them. It's all they CAN say.

I equate this in musical terms. You have a super conference of Rush, Pearl Jam, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, R.E.M. and Kanye West. Pearl Jam and Led Zeppelin leave. You replace them with Nickelback and Creed.

Doesn't matter that you've now added a Canadian band from Vancouver (Nback) and some preacher-band from Florida and grown into new markets. The bottom line is...YOU LOST PEARL JAM AND LED ZEPPELIN REPLACED THEM WITH CREED AND NICKELBACK!!!

But we get access to Avril Lavigne...

Who am I kidding, she sucks too.

[GGGG]

Sounds like the ACC is/was very worried the Big East really was going to get a matching TV contract.  As stated several times already, it appears ESPN & the ACC are doing everything and anything possible to simply dismantle/wound the Big East.  Period.

I understand why it may look that way.  However the ACC is expanding because it sees growth opportunities.  Where else is it going to get these schools from?  No other BCS schools is going to leave its conference to join the ACC...that leaves the Big East as the only other conference to be poached.  (Outside of the lightweights like CUSA, etc.)

[GGGG]

Dear ecompt,

Thank you for your continued support of Marquette Athletics. We hope you enjoy the thrilling 2017/18 schedule of conference games against powerhouses like LaSalle, Xavier, Dayton and St. Louis! Your deposit of $500 will be due in two weeks. Thank you.


Marquette Ticket Office, June 2017

Well, it's that or Central Florida, SMU and Houston.  Pick your poison.

[swoopem]

I'm no expert in this confrence stuff and don't pretend to be, but I would love if some how we got invited/forced our way into the Big 12. I think other than the Big 10 it makes the most sense geographiclly and think we can maintain great competition and a high respect level nationally.

I understand the basketball only confrence but personally think that's not the best competition. Also I do believe that G'town is going to the ACC.

Again I know nothing and this is just what I would like to see happen.

[4everwarriors]

Since when is South Bend in close proximity to the Atlantic Ocean?

[MerrittsMustache]

Take it for what it's worth. He's being somewhat respected by UConn posters.

‏@MHver3
Hearing the ACC could add one more non football school if ND joins.

Good bye, Georgetown!

[real chili 83]

Here's a link to the article this morning in the South Bend Trib.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/notredame/football/sbt-notre-dame-leaving-big-east-to-join-acc-in-all-sports-but-football-20120912,0,6080706.story

The ACC will displace 5 of ND's current football opponents.  ND has a long standing history with BIG 10 teams in football.  Their schedule has always included Purdue, Mich., and MSU.  They also have a long time rivalry with USC and at least one of the service academys.  This will probaly displace some of those relationships.

Ahhh, who cares, its ND.  They suck.  

[ATWizJr]

This is a real "prestige" hit and will affect recruiting and also coach retention if the conference continues to disintegrate, which I think is inevitable.

[GGGG]

Dan Wetzel's article lays out nicely the benefits to both sides.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--notre-dame-protects-treasure-football-schedule-in-move-to-acc.html

[LAZER]

If I'm the MU AD right now, I start getting real friendly with Jim Delany and start saying some prayers that the B10 looks to add 2 hoops schools.

[mubb34]

My vote is for Marquette to move to the A-10.... Lets get out of this sinking Big East ship and join a steady competitive conference. (Gtown and Nova should come with)

[Benny B]

The problem I have with the "not a big loss" mentality is that ND was a big name brand piece of the league. This hurts our status immediately as our contract negotiations start at the end of the month. Just look at how our basketball lineup will change as we attempt to negotiate with NBC, CBS, Fox, and anyone else who might have been interested: ND, Syracuse, Pitt, and WVU out, UCF, SMU, Houston, Temple, Memphis in. That's a big, big downgrade. The league's marketability is going down because the quality is declining, and ND probably had a bigger fanbase than any of the other teams on that list.

1) The brand of ND isn't helping the basketball-only schools at this point any way.

2) Compared to having already lost Cuse, Pitt and WVU, the marginal loss of ND is minimal.  The brand has a floor, and that floor was already approached before ND made it's decision.

3) ND solidifies the Chicago market for a conference network/contract, but with DePaul (and to a lesser extent, MU), you still have Chicago.  You probably lose South Bend, but that's not a big deal.  ND isn't going to win you a market in Texas, but SMU & Houston do.  Same with western Tennessee... Memphis grabs that market, ND does not.



Look at this way... you've got 16 girls in a bar: 4 are smokin' hot, 10 are moderately attractive, and 2 are just plain ugly.  Two of your smokin' girls (Pitt and Cuse) and 1 attractive girl (WVU) just left, but in walked five more girls (3 moderately attractive and 2 ugly) shortly after.  If another smokin' girl (ND) leaves, does it really make a difference at that point (especially given that you didn't have a chance with her to begin with)?

And by the way, one of those girls that did walk in... she may be ugly, but she and two of her friends she came in with have a boatload of cash.  A little cosmetic surgery, some new attractive friends, and all of the sudden, things aren't as bad as you thought they were going to be.

[GGGG]

If I'm the MU AD right now, I start getting real friendly with Jim Delany and start saying some prayers that the B10 looks to add 2 hoops schools.

If Larry Williams does this, he's a bigger moron than even the most ardent anti-LW people on this board think he is.  There is no chance.  None.  Whatsoever.  That the Big Ten is going to add non-football schools.  I mean, if that were something on their radar, why not just take Notre Dame???

[Pakuni]

Since when is South Bend in close proximity to the Atlantic Ocean?

About the same time Boise, Dallas and San Diego became part of the East..

[Abode4life]

If Larry Williams does this, he's a bigger moron than even the most ardent anti-LW people on this board think he is.  There is no chance.  None.  Whatsoever.  That the Big Ten is going to add non-football schools.  I mean, if that were something on their radar, why not just take Notre Dame???

I agree.  And if we join another Football dominant conference, who says we won't  be in this position in another 5-10 years?

[Benny B]

If Larry Williams does this, he's a bigger moron than even the most ardent anti-LW people on this board think he is.  There is no chance.  None.  Whatsoever.  That the Big Ten is going to add non-football schools.  I mean, if that were something on their radar, why not just take Notre Dame???

A moron for asking the question or a moron for thinking he'd accept the invite if the B? offered?

[GGGG]

A moron for asking the question or a moron for thinking he'd accept the invite if the B? offered?

A moron for wasting his time thinking that the Big Ten is going to be interested in MU.

[MerrittsMustache]

1) The brand of ND isn't helping the basketball-only schools at this point any way.

2) Compared to having already lost Cuse, Pitt and WVU, the marginal loss of ND is minimal.  The brand has a floor, and that floor was already approached before ND made it's decision.

3) ND solidifies the Chicago market for a conference network/contract, but with DePaul (and to a lesser extent, MU), you still have Chicago.  You probably lose South Bend, but that's not a big deal.  ND isn't going to win you a market in Texas, but SMU & Houston do.  Same with western Tennessee... Memphis grabs that market, ND does not.



Look at this way... you've got 16 girls in a bar: 4 are smokin' hot, 10 are moderately attractive, and 2 are just plain ugly.  Two of your smokin' girls (Pitt and Cuse) and 1 attractive girl (WVU) just left, but in walked five more girls (3 moderately attractive and 2 ugly) shortly after.  If another smokin' girl (ND) leaves, does it really make a difference at that point (especially given that you didn't have a chance with her to begin with)?

And by the way, one of those girls that did walk in... she may be ugly, but she and two of her friends she came in with have a boatload of cash.  A little cosmetic surgery, some new attractive friends, and all of the sudden, things aren't as bad as you thought they were going to be.

This is the first time that anyone or anything in West Virginia has been compared to an attractive girl.

[Benny B]

This is the first time that anyone or anything in West Virginia has been compared to an attractive girl.

That also the first time that I almost threw up a little bit for the sake of maintaining of a metaphor.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

If Larry Williams does this, he's a bigger moron than even the most ardent anti-LW people on this board think he is.  There is no chance.  None.  Whatsoever.  That the Big Ten is going to add non-football schools.  I mean, if that were something on their radar, why not just take Notre Dame???

I actually disagree.

I don't think it will happen tomorrow, but conferences are looking for revenue and content.

Big 10 is creating a hockey conference. Why? Content. They never wanted to do it 10 years ago. Now they have a network, now they need to create content.

When the dust settles on the football movement/vacuum, conferences are going to continue to look for more revenue streams (sponsorships, naming of buildings/arenas, etc. etc.). This isn't going to magically stop.

In 2-4 years, the Big10 might see that additional basketball-only schools provide content and revenue without watering down the brand. If that happens, they will add more teams. (likely MU and DePaul/Creighton).

I know, I know... it sounds nuts. But, 5 years ago, a lot of the stuff happening now seemed nuts.

[Toolbox]

Is there any chance that we get invited to the ACC to round out the basketball/other sports.  We now have lacrosse and real good soccer program, two sports the ACC really likes.  My thought on Georgetown leaving is that Marland and even BC would try to block them.

[Benny B]

A moron for wasting his time thinking that the Big Ten is going to be interested in MU.

How would a 60 second phone call to Delaney be a "waste of time."

What's the greater harm in asking the question... that he'll say no or that he might say yes?

[Abode4life]

Is there any chance that we get invited to the ACC to round out the basketball/other sports.  We now have lacrosse and real good soccer program, two sports the ACC really likes.  My thought on Georgetown leaving is that Marland and even BC would try to block them.

I'd be very surprised if that happens.