Watching the NBA

[frozena pizza]

Just curious, where are you guys located?

I think a lot of it depends on if you have a good team or not.  If I lived in Minnesota, I wouldn't be watching the NBA.

Just wondering why you say that, since I live in Minnesota and am considering getting a Wolves ticket plan this year.  The Wolves were over .500 and in contention for a playoff spot when Rubio went down.  They also have a potential MVP candidate in Kevin Love and are actually selling out games for the first time in like 10 years.  Of course, I moved here from DC and Wizards games were pretty bad.

[RawdogDX]

"The NBA Draft is without a doubt the high-water point of the season for me."

Operative phrase in that statement: for me.

I agree with you that the draft is exciting when an MU guy's name gets called, but the playoffs are far superior for me.  However, that doesn't mean that Brew can't enjoy the draft more than the actual games.  It's a matter of taste, like arguing music.  It's just what someone enjoys more, there's no objective right or wrong.  Does that make sense?

It is like arguing music.  Except that brewcity's favorite song is watching people accept their Grammy.

[Earl Tatum]

The NBA is run by the Mafia. They alway make sure LA, Miami, New York and Boston  get the tube. Games are fixed. Eighty percent of the players could score 30 points. But the chosen few LeBron, D-Wade, Carmelo, and Kolbe. We wouldn't have poor brothers if they would spread their wealth. Yet dumb fans support them. WGAS.
(Who Give A S---! My opinion only.

[Hards Alumni]

The NBA is run by the Mafia. They alway make sure LA, Miami, New York and Boston  get the tube. Games are fixed. Eighty percent of the players could score 30 points. But the chosen few LeBron, D-Wade, Carmelo, and Kolbe. We wouldn't have poor brothers if they would spread their wealth. Yet dumb fans support them. WGAS.
(Who Give A S---! My opinion only.

Your opinion, but foolish.  Since the Mavs won it last year, and Oklahoma City was in the finals this year.

[GGGG]

The NBA is run by the Mafia. They alway make sure LA, Miami, New York and Boston  get the tube. Games are fixed. Eighty percent of the players could score 30 points. But the chosen few LeBron, D-Wade, Carmelo, and Kolbe. We wouldn't have poor brothers if they would spread their wealth. Yet dumb fans support them. WGAS.
(Who Give A S---! My opinion only.

Yeah...that is why one of the dominant teams over the last 10+ years is based in San Antonio.

You are obviously someone that doesn't actually watch the game.

[Bocephys]

The NBA is run by the Mafia. They alway make sure LA, Miami, New York and Boston  get the tube. Games are fixed. Eighty percent of the players could score 30 points. But the chosen few LeBron, D-Wade, Carmelo, and Kolbe. We wouldn't have poor brothers if they would spread their wealth. Yet dumb fans support them. WGAS.
(Who Give A S---! My opinion only.

This is a special kind of ignorance.

[Blue Horseshoe]

It is like arguing music.  Except that brewcity's favorite song is watching people accept their Grammy.

+ 1

[Pakuni]

Yeah...that is why one of the dominant teams over the last 10+ years is based in San Antonio.

You are obviously someone that doesn't actually watch the game.

And the next dominant team may come from Oklahoma City.

NBA basketball >>>>>> NCAA basketball.
Nothing wrong with finding the latter more interesting and compelling, but to argue that the college game is a better brand of basketball is silly. Someone may prefer driving a Ford pickup to an SL Class Mercedes, but that doesn't make it a better vehicle.

[brewcity77]

If you think the NBA playoffs where the best players, in their primes, attempt to establish legacies, leaving nothing in the tank is less exciting than sitting there and watching someone read a name off a card(It's not even close!), then yes, that does say something about your basketball acumen.

Yes, because I don't care about those players. I rarely feel an emotional stake with any of them. I loved the NBA when I was a kid. Watching Jordan and his contemporaries, it felt like something special. As I've grown older, I've realized that the NBA is marketed to kids. It's the basketball equivalent of big explosions. Don't get me wrong, every now and then a Michael Bay movie is fine, but I want something that's more engaging.

If you want a Grammy comparison, I think this is how it could be aptly described. I like listening to the album, then later watching to see how it is received by the awards committee. You apparently like buying the album only after it has won the awards.

No, the Championship is the high point of the season. You can enjoy whatever you like, but it is flat out wrong to call the draft the high point. I am happy for the MU guys getting drafted and then getting a chance to play against the best in the world. Some make it, others don't. I appreciate talent over everything else. I want to see the best.

Well bully for you. I enjoy strategy and storylines. The NBA rarely has that. By the time guys are reaching the finals, their stories have already been told countless times, and there's such a limited player pool that there just isn't the drama of the NCAAs. To compare the NBA playoffs and their laborious series to the one-off of the NCAAs is laughable. There will never be a Norfolk State in the NBA. And one Norfolk State is 10 times the story that the entire NBA season is.

Every team in the NBA plays the same game, the only question is who can dance that one dance best. It's like watching 30 contestants all do the same thing and trying to judge which did it the best. I'd rather watch 300 contestants do things 30 different ways. It makes for far better drama. Granted, there may not be the theatrics, but if that's all you want, just buy a 100 Greatest Dunks tape.

[Blue Horseshoe]

Good basketball is THE story line. I don't care where they came from, I don't care how old they are, I don't care what school then went to, I don't care if they went to school. I just want to see the absolute best players on the floor.

[brewcity77]

Good basketball is THE story line. I don't care where they came from, I don't care how old they are, I don't care what school then went to, I don't care if they went to school. I just want to see the absolute best players on the floor.

And I don't see how I'm stopping you. I just don't understand why it angers you so that I'm not into the whole dunk rinse repeat without context.

[Silkk the Shaka]

It is like arguing music.  Except that brewcity's favorite song is watching people accept their Grammy.

Ha!  Good point, but I guess I was arguing that what entertains one person will not entertain the other and vice versa, so arguing about who is "right" about a matter of taste is a complete waste of time.

[Blue Horseshoe]

And I don't see how I'm stopping you. I just don't understand why it angers you so that I'm not into the whole dunk rinse repeat without context.

I'm just saying I enjoy basketball. You are saying you enjoy stories and "drama." If you want a larger "player pool" get into minor league baseball. There are countless story lines there.

[GGGG]

I'm just saying I enjoy basketball.

After you said he made an "incredibly moronic statement."

[Blue Horseshoe]

After you said he made an "incredibly moronic statement."

I thought we were on the same page wanting to see the best possible basketball?

[GGGG]

I thought we were on the same page wanting to see the best possible basketball?

I am.  But he likes the draft more than the games.  Why should you care?

[Blue Horseshoe]

I am.  But he likes the draft more than the games.  Why should you care?

I said he can enjoy it. Enjoy the bejesus out of it. Enjoy it so much he can replay it 364 days a year.

[CTWarrior]

It is like arguing music.  Except that brewcity's favorite song is watching people accept their Grammy.

Isn't the NBA draft more like the grammy nominations than the actual grammys?

[brewcity77]

The NBA game is dull and static. Yes, the athletes are top level, but no one is doing anything different or new. There is no variety in the league. That's why the college game is more entertaining. Because every team isn't just a clone of the others with varying levels of talent. That's why college is an infinitely more entertaining game. That and because the refs actually make calls.

[RawdogDX]

If you want a Grammy comparison, I think this is how it could be aptly described. I like listening to the album, then later watching to see how it is received by the awards committee. You apparently like buying the album only after it has won the awards.

terrible metaphor,  i love ncaa basketball and enjoy the nba.  It is more like this: you like listening to a band, but as soon as they are popular enough to win a grammy you call them sell outs and then stop listening to them because they're 'marketed for kids'.  And then talk down to anyone who still likes them because popular music is 'booring and static' and complain about dunking.  

The NBA is going through a Renaissance and you are too stubborn to see it.

[Pakuni]

Oh .... and as for the whole "the season's too long so nobody tries argument," the NHL season is just as long and the MLB season is twice as long, yet you almost never hear the same gripe about players not putting in a full effort game in and game out.
Weird.

[brewcity77]

The NBA is going through a Renaissance and you are too stubborn to see it.

No, I'm too bored by the league to care. It's not a Renaissance unless the game has changed. The names on the back of the jersey have changed, but the game is the same. Yawn.

[Silkk the Shaka]

No, I'm too bored by the league to care. It's not a Renaissance unless the game has changed. The names on the back of the jersey have changed, but the game is the same. Yawn.

Yet you like soccer?

***Nailed it!***

[ATL MU Warrior]

No, I'm too bored by the league to care. It's not a Renaissance unless the game has changed. The names on the back of the jersey have changed, but the game is the same. Yawn.

The NBA game has changed dramatically in the last 10-15 years. 

Exactly what has changed about college ball that's got you so excited? 

[brandx]

I am a fairweather Bucks fan.  I think the college game is far superior to the NBA game, probably because the NBA regular season is filled with games where the players are playing half-heartedly.   The NBA playoffs are much more watchable than the regular season, that's for sure.  The only NBA games that I can generally get interested in are ones where MU guys are playing (Wade, Novak with the Knicks, Matthews with the Blazers, JFB with the Bulls).  I cannot sit and watch a regular NBA game without one of those guys in it.  I just can't get interested in it.

For me I'd take Trailblazers - Hornets over Niagara - St. Bonaventure anytime.
But I totally understand people not getting into the NBA during the regular season. Kinda like the NHL - I am not a hockey fan, but love the playoffs. Great players giving it everything.

NBA playoffs are the same thing - great players leaving everything on the floor.