Uthoff....Twitter Tracker

[esotericmindguy]

Maybe he saw the caliber of players around him and was terrified. Bo will play more up tempo if he has the guys, but he doesn't...and you don't know that as a junior in high school. Bo has a cute little program over in Madison.

[augoman]

We also don't know what role he was forecast in by Bo. Uthoff may have been hoping to play a Leuer-type role, where he would be a primary offensive option and Bo may have been grooming him for a Kaminsky-type role. Just because you've seen the basic scheme doesn't mean you know what the coach will do with you once you arrive.

Agree.  Look what Bo did to Brian Butch.  Beautiful o/side shot, tall, novakesque.  Redshirts him, bulks him up, forces him to crash and bang.  I understand that's what he needed, but Butch could be riding NBA pines somewhere as a 3/4, not learning a foreign language now. 
I guess the recruit assumes a coach will take advantage of his skills..., not just his height.  After the realization maybe the rest of the gig doesn't look so great either.

[🏀]

It's simple. Bo has and always will play to his system. It will not change. If you don't see yourself fitting in it, you need to leave. Bo is bigger than the program.

While on the other hand Buzz will play to the strengths of his players, not any system. Buzz does not make his system bigger than the success of the program or his recruits.

Buzz's system also isn't the name of local AAU program either.

[Canadian Dimes]

It's simple. Bo has and always will play to his system. It will not change. If you don't see yourself fitting in it, you need to leave. Bo is bigger than the program.

While on the other hand Buzz will play to the strengths of his players, not any system. Buzz does not make his system bigger than the success of the program or his recruits.

Buzz's system also isn't the name of local AAU program either.

Buzz plays his system and recruits to it as well.

[GGGG]

Buzz plays his system and recruits to it as well.

As does Bo.  Say what you want about Brian Butch, but I doubt he has any regrets, and the year he dislocated his elbow were a legit national title contender.

[Benny B]

Buzz plays his system and recruits to it as well.

Granted, but Buzz's system is much more adaptable to its players' strengths than Ryan's.  That's the whole point of having "switchables."

[NavinRJohnson]

I have to admit, I am very much hoping he and MU find a fit. That is exactly the kick in the teeth Bo Ryan deserves after the way he handled this thing.

[Golden Avalanche]

We also don't know what role he was forecast in by Bo. Uthoff may have been hoping to play a Leuer-type role, where he would be a primary offensive option and Bo may have been grooming him for a Kaminsky-type role. Just because you've seen the basic scheme doesn't mean you know what the coach will do with you once you arrive.

This would make much more sense if Uthoff played this season.

Every recruit enters thinking they will be something special. Reality often sets in to determine your role but that's why you spend time during your recruitment looking into these possibilities.

And when an offense is structured the way the Swing is, the evidence on big man development leans very heavily toward one style of player than, say, a Jon Leuer.

[MUEng92]

Anyone else sick of hearing about someone "taking their talents" somewhere?  Mr. Iowa sportswriter, the horse is dead already.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Can we just tell this kid to look elsewhere. He doesn't give us anything we don't already have in Juan and we are in play on bigger fish for 2013. The only value is seeing Bucky pissed off.

[Dawson Rental]

Can we just tell this kid to look elsewhere. He doesn't give us anything we don't already have in Juan and we are in play on bigger fish for 2013. The only value is seeing Bucky pissed off.

No we can't.  Only Buzz can, and evidently, Buzz is interested.

[Texas Warrior]

Agree.  Look what Bo did to Brian Butch.  Beautiful o/side shot, tall, novakesque.  Redshirts him, bulks him up, forces him to crash and bang.  I understand that's what he needed, but Butch could be riding NBA pines somewhere as a 3/4, not learning a foreign language now. 
I guess the recruit assumes a coach will take advantage of his skills..., not just his height.  After the realization maybe the rest of the gig doesn't look so great either.

Isn't Butch on the Celtics right now?

[🏀]

Isn't Butch on the Celtics right now?

Nah. Greg Stiemsma is.

[GOO]

Utoff was obviously a player that Bo wanted to keep.  He was Mr. Basketball in Iowa.  He is supposed to be skilled and able to shoot.  He is a player.  Does he fit MU's uptempo style?  I don't know but that is for Buzz to decide.

Also, it sounds like Utoff didn't like the slow down offense that UW plays, hence the transfer.  So, maybe he can run or maybe not.  Let's let Buzz decide.  I for one am intrigued, as we can use a skilled player/shooter in the mix at 6/8".

On an aside, Bo has done a good job of getting certain players to redshirt, which means they normally won't transfer due to loosing a year of eligibility.  Obviously, it didn't work in this case, but whomever gets Utoff will have him for three season (4 on scholarship) for better or worse.   

One wonders what Utoff was thinking during the UW/MU game last season... and what he was thinking when he was on the scout team on offense, tyring to mimic non swing teams...

[We R Final Four]

Utoff was obviously a player that Bo wanted to keep.  He was Mr. Basketball in Iowa.  He is supposed to be skilled and able to shoot.  He is a player.  Does he fit MU's uptempo style?  I don't know but that is for Buzz to decide.

Also, it sounds like Utoff didn't like the slow down offense that UW plays, hence the transfer.  So, maybe he can run or maybe not.  Let's let Buzz decide.  I for one am intrigued, as we can use a skilled player/shooter in the mix at 6/8".

On an aside, Bo has done a good job of getting certain players to redshirt, which means they normally won't transfer due to loosing a year of eligibility.  Obviously, it didn't work in this case, but whomever gets Utoff will have him for three season (4 on scholarship) for better or worse.  

One wonders what Utoff was thinking during the UW/MU game last season... and what he was thinking when he was on the scout team on offense, tyring to mimic non swing teams...

Bo didn't change his offensive approach last year from every other year he has coached. So, I highly doubt that Uthoff transferred based upon 'slow down offense' that for some reason he apparently had NO idea that UW played.  Did he think UW was run and gun and shocked to learn that wasn't the case?

[brewcity77]

Bo didn't change his offensive approach last year from every other year he has coached. So, I highly doubt that Uthoff transferred based upon 'slow down offense' that for some reason he apparently had NO idea that UW played.  Did he think UW was run and gun and shocked to learn that wasn't the case?

As mentioned before, some players thrive in Bo's system, some don't. Look at Butch and Leuer. Both big, both highly rated coming in. Butch was molded into a low-post player, strictly a physical presence. Leuer was encouraged to shoot, stay outside, and be a constant scoring threat. Maybe Uthoff came in hoping to be the next Leuer, but in practice and in meetings he was told he was being groomed to be the next Butch.

Style, approach, tactics, none of that changes, but a player expecting to fit into the system one way and discovering the expectation is for him to fit in in another way might lead to a kid wanting to transfer.

[We R Final Four]

Agree Brew-wouldn't agree that the reason for the transfer to be UW's 'slow down offense' as suggested.

[GOO]

Bo didn't change his offensive approach last year from every other year he has coached. So, I highly doubt that Uthoff transferred based upon 'slow down offense' that for some reason he apparently had NO idea that UW played.  Did he think UW was run and gun and shocked to learn that wasn't the case?

Well, I don't know, but once in the system and seeing it up close, he didn't like UW's style, of course.  From what I've read, he wants to play more uptempo and didn't like the style at UW.  I'm just putting two and two together.  He MAY have liked what he saw when he was in highschool, but decided it wasn't for him once he was in the system.  You assume that if he commited to UW knowing the tempo, that tempo therefore is not a reason to later transfer.  Faulty logic.  I agree that he knew the tempo when he commited, but things change.   

[cheebs09]

Or not liking his role in the offense was a politically correct/easy answer and he hasn't shared the real reason. Either way, no matter his reasoning, it sounds like he's a very good player. Up until his transfer, Badger fans were excited about him in the future. I don't know much about his style of play, but he sounds like a good player and if he and Buzz see a fit, I'd be excited to have him.

[warthog-driver]

Isn't Butch on the Celtics right now?

Butch is with the Bakersfield Jam of the NBDL. I wonder how this 5-Star hamburger boy feels about his decision to learn at the feet of Master Bo now that he is slaving away in anonymity? Hell, he would have been better off at Murray State than Wisconsin.

[warthog-driver]

I'm guessing, in the end, Buzz has too much respect for Ryan to take on this transfer.

No effing way does that figure in any decision - either way.

[cheebs09]

Just saw Uthoff visiting Marquette and Florida made the bottom line and included how Bo restricted schools. Gave me a little unexpected chuckle.

[Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup]

Just saw Uthoff visiting Marquette and Florida made the bottom line and included how Bo restricted schools. Gave me a little unexpected chuckle.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7906831/report-former-wisconsin-badger-jarrod-uthoff-visit-marquette-golden-eagles

[TribalRage]

Not convinced this kid is the best use of a scholarship, especially since he has to sit out a year. Not quick enough to fit Buzz' def of a switchable, doesn't have a Novak type touch, and too slow/quick for the offense we have been running.

[Clam Crowder]

There's a new insider article on him. Anyone wanna share?
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors?&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2ffeatures%2frumors