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TomEnlundSays

It was a tough season for Durley
               





               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/147756215.html
               

Tulsa Warrior

It sounds like Durley needs a year of prep school to get game time ready.  That or a solid JUCO program.

kmwtrucks

Great update.  Very Candid article which from a outsider's perspective I would say is fair considering he played so Little this year.  

BrewCity83

So now he's behind Otule at the same point?

"when asked to compare Otule and Durley at this stage of their careers, Courtney said that Otule was further along as a player across the board."
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

Boone

Honest and painful remarks by the coach. Not at all promising given how raw Otule was when he enrolled at MU. Buzz needs to have an honest chat with him and his folks and tell them what's what.

Aughnanure

Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on April 17, 2012, 10:45:50 AM
So now he's behind Otule at the same point?

"when asked to compare Otule and Durley at this stage of their careers, Courtney said that Otule was further along as a player across the board."

That's exactly what I saw and thought. Didn't Courtney say Durley was farther along not too long ago?
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

LAZER

Well looks like all the worries from folks around here were well justified.  Coming from his HS coach makes this sound like he is nowhere near High Major talent.

brewcity77

This article presents as many questions as it answers. If he's averaging 7/5 behind Ridley, that's not bad at all, but how many games did he play? If it was in 5 games, there may be cause for concern, but if it was 25, I'm good with that.

I fully expect him to be here, but I really think this is a rare time where a redshirt would really be helpful. If needed because of injury, he can always take it off, but it sounds like a year of polish and practice could really help this kid.

4everwarriors

Besides Beer Town, who else expects Durley this summer.
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Lennys Tap

Looks like the red flags that some of us pointed out were real danger signs. I've never read a more negative review of an alleged high D1 prospect by his own coach. Those who insisted his lack of playing time his senior year was meaningless were wrong - he started the season (in his coach's eyes) ahead of Otule at the same stage and finished behind him. I get the impression that motivation is a problem - if that's the case he has no business here. I'd LOVE to be wrong on this one - 6'10", 280, and athletic is hard to find - but don't think so.

brewcity77

Just a few thoughts regarding my expectation of him being here -- with him signing his LOI, as long as he has applied and has his ducks in a row, we are obligated to give him a scholarship for 2012-13. In addition, while we definitely are recruiting one additional player (Lockett) with no vacant 2012 spots, Buzz has had at least one transfer out each year, and I expect this year to be the same, especially the further along we get. And when people questioned him being here, his family came on and were pretty vehement in saying he'd be here. I know...phillycoach...but I get the impression Durley's got his paperwork in order.

Not saying there won't be someone not here who's slated to be, just saying I don't think it's Durley.

BrewCity83

I expect to see him here.  Sounds like he's got a lot of work to do, but his coach did say he's not afraid to work hard.  I don't expect a lot of playing time for him right away, but you can't teach that kind of size and there aren't a lot of guys that big available.  With a year or two under Buzz/Todd's conditioning programs, I still think he can eventually become a beast.
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Lennys Tap

#13
I don't know whether or not he'll be here. My question is whether he belongs here. You (Brew) and many others were unconcerned with a senior year in high school filled with DNPs/coaches decision. To some of us it was a huge red flag. His coach appears to be in our camp.

esotericmindguy

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 17, 2012, 11:05:14 AM
Besides Beer Town, who else expects Durley this summer.

No one, not sure why he thinks that. Buzz said himself on his television show that things have changed and the durley situation has changed. I can almost guarantee Buzz has already ha a conversation with him.

strotty

From a journalist's perspective, how do you not get quotes from Durley??

Dreadman24

I have been thinking this about Durley all along but was afraid i would be bashed by you guys if i voiced my opinion on him lol.

ibechillindoe

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2012, 11:23:53 AM
I don't know whether or not he'll be here. My question is whether he belongs here. You and many others were unconcerned with a senior year in high school filled with DNPs/coaches decision. To some of us it was a huge red flag. His coach appears to be in our camp.

Exactly. I don't know whether he will be here or not, but should he be? I don't care if Dwight Howard was his starting center, he should still see minutes if he is a high major d-1 prospect. His coaches comments are exactly what I didn't want to hear, but they are the truth. I hope he goes another route, and if development happens then maybe re-open the door. I would much rather have Lockett, or use the scholarship in 2013. 

DomJamesToTheBasket

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 17, 2012, 11:09:06 AM
Just a few thoughts regarding my expectation of him being here -- with him signing his LOI, as long as he has applied and has his ducks in a row, we are obligated to give him a scholarship for 2012-13.

If he wants to come,  he is coming.  The real question is how much MU wants him to come because I doubt he will force the issue if he feels unwanted.  Does MU still want him as much as last summer?  I have serious doubts about that.

Boone

If he does come, he likely won't see the court until his 3rd year here, so that'd be 4 consecutive seasons without any real game action. Time to cut the cord.

Les Nessman

Hearing that "he isn't afraid of hard work" sounds to me like he doesn't show much initiative. I'd like the guy who is always working hard and pushing himself, not the guy who wil work hard when he needs/ wants to. I'm hoping when he shows up and begins practicing with Davante and Otule, as well as possibly scrimmaging with RJax, he'll take a few hits and realize he's gonna need to take it up a notch and start throwing that body around.

injuryBug

Look at Roy Hibbert or Aaron Gray.  Big men need time to develop.  If he does nothing for 2 years and can contribute junior/senior year what is wrong with that?  All we need to do is look to the West to see how well it works to bring big men along slowly.  
I hear people complain about mid majors having better bigs than us.  The reason is they took chances and let the kid develop.

THEultimateWARRIOR

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 17, 2012, 11:23:53 AM
I don't know whether or not he'll be here. My question is whether he belongs here. You (Brew) and many others were unconcerned with a senior year in high school filled with DNPs/coaches decision. To some of us it was a huge red flag. His coach appears to be in our camp.
+1000 After seeing this article my thoughts on Durley are the same as they have always been. I want the kid to be here but not for a year or so. He needs to get some game time experience that he lacked in high school. If he is a starter on a JUCO or prep team for 1 year it will only boost his confidence. He then would arrive at MU and get a year of practice with Otule and Ox that Brew keeps talking about. I believe this is the best route for him and MU most importantly. I have never seen such a negative review from a head coach about his own player. The only question I have is if he was averaging 7/5 what were his minutes per game? That's the deciding factor here.

Canadian Dimes

This entire article seems odd.

1.  When ever has ENlund ever blogged anything more than a 3 sentence capture of info. from a AP release.

2.  Of the 4 incoming recruits why Durley...or does the JS online only report bad news in regards to Mu now?

THEultimateWARRIOR

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 17, 2012, 12:03:45 PM
This entire article seems odd.

1.  When ever has ENlund ever blogged anything more than a 3 sentence capture of info. from a AP release.

2.  Of the 4 incoming recruits why Durley...or does the JS online only report bad news in regards to Mu now?
Seems like the Journal will do anything to make MU seem worse then it really is.

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