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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: muguru on April 09, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
I'm going to givet his one a "no comment". I will say this, I'm not sure why everyone seemingly thinks Pitino is one of the "good guys" in Coaching and he's considered clean?? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Who thinks that?

Bocephys

Quote from: muguru on April 09, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
I'm going to givet his one a "no comment". I will say this, I'm not sure why everyone seemingly thinks Pitino is one of the "good guys" in Coaching and he's considered clean?? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Is anyone truly "clean" these days?  I'm betting not.

jesmu84

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 09, 2012, 08:15:16 AM
Could Louisville give MSU Jared Swopshire's expiring contract plus cash considerations?


nice. this comment got me laughing

Golden Avalanche

Would have been nice to get a second chance at this exciting prospect but, alas, he shall haunt us instead.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 09, 2012, 08:03:08 AM
Some tweets out there that he might be heading to Louisville, that this is the school he had in mind before he even asked out, and that MSU might make tampering protests.

UL fans on the Scout site are acting like it's a done deal. Wonder who they'll dismiss, as they're over for next year if they add Hood.

Goose

UL makes room for this kid in a hurry. Wish we had chance but think this is UL all the way.

Benny B

Quote from: chapman on April 08, 2012, 10:30:42 PM
http://compliance.pac-12.org/ccacaitems/surveys/ictransfers.pdf

If this document is accurate he could, but he would have to walk on for two years (redshirt year and one more).  Would think that makes it unlikely he would. 

A lot can change after a year in school.  Wouldn't be surprised if he's willing to go further away now.  If it's based on talent alone we'd love to have him, not sure our scholarship situation will allow it though.  Going to guess that based on a strong freshman season he will get interest from at least one big time program that he won't want to pass up.

Intra-conference transfer in the SEC is only applicable to a SA "...who does enroll and leaves before end of first term of enrollment."  If I'm not mistaken, "term" is typically a semester (or trimester, quarter, etc.), not an academic year.  In that case, he would be outright barred from transferring to another SEC school, no?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Hoopaloop

Quote from: strotty on April 08, 2012, 11:50:40 PM
Maybe he wanted immediate playing time. He started from day one at MSU. Sit out next year, play alongside Jamil, Steve Taylor, and Anderson in '13 and be the superstar in '14.

Maybe.  More than likely he wants to play in the South and will stay in the South, likely Louisville. 
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bamamarquettefan

http://packinsider.com/2012/04/rodney-hood-transferring-from-mississippi-st-wolfpack-in-the-mix/

The NC State guys jumped on it fast, hoping that he went to a potential great team who underperformed and then lost every other starter except him - while NC State was in complete tormoil when he was making the decision and now the future looks great.

They admit no evidence he was really considering them - man a good 6-8 guard to contend with in two seasons makes Lville hard to contend with despite how good I believe we are going to be.  Hopefully reports are premature.
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Goose on April 09, 2012, 11:59:41 AM
UL makes room for this kid in a hurry. Wish we had chance but think this is UL all the way.

Pitino's already had to cut Swoopshire.  I suppose cutting another player wouldn't be beyond his consideration.  But what do they say to Blackshear who plays the same position?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

chapman

Multiple reports on Twitter that Duke and Ohio State are in the strongest on him.  I think we can forget about being in the mix.

Earl Tatum

With Kentucky getting these one and dones and Louisville trying to shed their
roster for a better player and other big wigs are doing this cheating,
MY POINT IN BEATING A DEAD HORSE-----WHY DID WE BITCH ABOUT BUZZ FOR DROPPING NEWBILL LAST YEAR? Be glad and hoping our program is clean.

Goose

Earl
The game has changed and we need to continue change with the big boys. This fan was not upset over Newbill, that is how things work today. It s two way street and kids can leave if they feel slighted or program can suggest a kid move on for not living up to expectations. That is why I say you have to be recruiting every day of the year.

wadesworld

Quote from: Goose on April 10, 2012, 05:04:45 PM
Earl
The game has changed and we need to continue change with the big boys. This fan was not upset over Newbill, that is how things work today. It s two way street and kids can leave if they feel slighted or program can suggest a kid move on for not living up to expectations. That is why I say you have to be recruiting every day of the year.

Let's hope not...

Hoopaloop

Quote from: Earl Tatum on April 10, 2012, 04:57:16 PM
With Kentucky getting these one and dones and Louisville trying to shed their
roster for a better player and other big wigs are doing this cheating,
MY POINT IN BEATING A DEAD HORSE-----WHY DID WE BITCH ABOUT BUZZ FOR DROPPING NEWBILL LAST YEAR? Be glad and hoping our program is clean.

I am speculating but likely because some programs are successful without going down that path, one is right here in the state. There are some boosters and administrative types (Goose can confirm) that look to our neighbors and see a successful program without the turnover. 

Do not forget the NCAA legislation that recently passed (Marquette opposed this legislation) that will allow schools to offer multi-year scholarships.

In effect, some schools will offer guarantees that the kids will be allowed to stay multiple years with a multi-year scholarship and that could work against programs that have a reputation for Creaning as they will likely only offer 1 year scholarships.  Imagine if you are around a 100 rated kid and MU offers a 1 year scholarship renewable each year and Wisconsin offers a 4 year guaranteed scholarship?  As Goose says, the game is changing but not always the way one thinks.  How the big boys are doing it is not universal in nature.  Some big boys are doing it one way and others are going about it an entirely different way.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-02-17/multiyear-scholarships-survives-close-vote/53137194/1

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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 10, 2012, 05:29:22 PM
I am speculating but likely because some programs are successful without going down that path, one is right here in the state. There are some boosters and administrative types (Goose can confirm) that look to our neighbors and see a successful program without the turnover. 

Do not forget the NCAA legislation that recently passed (Marquette opposed this legislation) that will allow schools to offer multi-year scholarships.

In effect, some schools will offer guarantees that the kids will be allowed to stay multiple years with a multi-year scholarship and that could work against programs that have a reputation for Creaning as they will likely only offer 1 year scholarships.  Imagine if you are around a 100 rated kid and MU offers a 1 year scholarship renewable each year and Wisconsin offers a 4 year guaranteed scholarship?  As Goose says, the game is changing but not always the way one thinks.  How the big boys are doing it is not universal in nature.  Some big boys are doing it one way and others are going about it an entirely different way.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-02-17/multiyear-scholarships-survives-close-vote/53137194/1



Are you speaking of the state you live in (California), or the state that Marquette is located in (Wisconsin)?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Earl Tatum

Hey Goose I agree, and the game has changed. So take advantage of the
rules. But, I remember the blogs sort of condeming Buzz. Go MU.

77ncaachamps

Remind me: what effect do "one-and-done" transfers have on schools offering multi-year schollies? None, right?! Only the graduation hit, am I correct?

And is there a penalty for kids who want out and/or schools cutting them loose?
SS Marquette

Benny B

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on April 10, 2012, 10:04:49 PM
Remind me: what effect do "one-and-done" transfers have on schools offering multi-year schollies? None, right?! Only the graduation hit, am I correct?

And is there a penalty for kids who want out and/or schools cutting them loose?

The old GSR's basic rule was that if a student has eligibility remaining and qualifies academically for the next term (e.g. a sophomore who transfers, declares for the draft, etc. but would have been a junior academically had he returned), then the school wouldn't be hit.  However, with the new rules and the multi-year stuff, I'm interested in seeing how they've addressed the issue you raised (i.e. should a school who offers a multi-year be penalized if the student only "fulfills" one year?) as well as a number of other concerns the UCONN thingy has brought to light, specifically, how does the delayed reporting affect scholarship situations at a school who offers multi-year scholarships to all of its student-athletes (i.e. if all 13 players are under multi-year scholarships from 2012-2015, and sanctions are passed whereby a school loses 2 scholarships in 2014-15 - a situation that could not have been foreseen by the school because of the delay - does the NCAA force the school to default on a multi-year scholarship/contract?)
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Hoopaloop

Quote from: LittleMurs on April 10, 2012, 05:46:57 PM
Are you speaking of the state you live in (California), or the state that Marquette is located in (Wisconsin)?

The University of Wisconsin in Madison
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MU B2002

"VPI"
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GGGG

Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 10, 2012, 05:29:22 PM
I am speculating but likely because some programs are successful without going down that path, one is right here in the state.


Are you talking about UWM or UWGB?

Dawson Rental

Quote from: MU B2002 on April 13, 2012, 05:20:09 PM
Doesn't this open the room they need?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/northwestern/2012/04/can_louisvilles_jared_swopshire_replace_northwestern_john_shurna.html

Apologize if already posted.

Nope.  Pitino needed to cut Swoopshire to make room for his freshman recruits.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MU B2002

Quote from: LittleMurs on April 14, 2012, 12:55:49 AM
Nope.  Pitino needed to cut Swoopshire to make room for his freshman recruits.


Ahhh.  Gotcha.
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

GGGG

Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 13, 2012, 03:16:56 PM
The University of Wisconsin in Madison


Ian Markolf.  Look it up.

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