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WE NEED A POINT GUARD!!!!

Started by GOMU85, March 08, 2012, 07:58:19 PM

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GGGG

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 17, 2012, 11:15:37 PM
You just bumped it, Champ. Time to lock her up.


I bumped it to show how absurd the OP was.  Junior ran this team today.  Fantastic game.

Hoopaloop

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 17, 2012, 11:25:49 PM

I bumped it to show how absurd the OP was.  Junior ran this team today.  Fantastic game.

He was very solid today.  The OP was not absurd.  We lost against Louisville because of our PG play.   It is not one of the strengths of this team, but he played well today.
"Since you asked, since you pretend to know why I'm not posting here anymore, let me make this as clear as I can for you Ners.  You are the reason I'm not posting here anymore."   BMA725  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636

mu_hilltopper

Listening to the press conference .. it's obvious that Buzz/the staff has read some of this thread.

Summarizing  ..  COACH BUZZ WILLIAMS and DJO delivered a middle finger directed at the original poster and others who tried throwing Junior under the bus, arguing against the tenacity and ability of Junior Cadougan, who had a bad BET game, but has been integral to why MU is where they are, getting 2nd in the BE, and now heading to a 2nd S16.

It's threads like this, watching that press conference .. pains me personally, hosting the minority poisons that can be spewed here.

wojosdojo

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 18, 2012, 01:28:01 AM
Listening to the press conference .. it's obvious that Buzz/the staff has read some of this thread.

Summarizing  ..  COACH BUZZ WILLIAMS and DJO delivered a middle finger directed at the original poster and others who tried throwing Junior under the bus, arguing against the tenacity and ability of Junior Cadougan, who had a bad BET game, but has been integral to why MU is where they are, getting 2nd in the BE, and now heading to a 2nd S16.

It's threads like this, watching that press conference .. pains me personally, hosting the minority poisons that can be spewed here.

+1000. He played too well all year to have a have a bad showing in NY and be thrown under the bus. I've been on the Junior bandwagon all along and I'm not patting myself on the back when I say that. It just makes me sick to see how our own team has to use its fans as motivation. I remember last year Buzz said it was hard to see everyone want to show up in Newark after people doubted us after we had some bad losses near the end of the season. I'm sure he has a similar feeling today. Go MU.. and our PG!

wadesworld

Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 18, 2012, 12:08:11 AM
He was very solid today.  The OP was not absurd.  We lost against Louisville because of our PG play.   It is not one of the strengths of this team, but he played well today.

It was absurd. Travis Diener shot 1-11 and had 11 turnovers in the Final Four game against Kansas. Did we need a new point guard then?

Junior had a horrible game against Louisville. Every player has horrible games in their lives. Even the best in the world. It happens. A horrible game doesn't mean you can't get the job done.

muarmy81

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 17, 2012, 11:25:49 PM

I bumped it to show how absurd the OP was.  Junior ran this team today.  Fantastic game.

+1

Junior has been great...glad to see him play so well.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 18, 2012, 01:28:01 AM
Listening to the press conference .. it's obvious that Buzz/the staff has read some of this thread.

Summarizing  ..  COACH BUZZ WILLIAMS and DJO delivered a middle finger directed at the original poster and others who tried throwing Junior under the bus, arguing against the tenacity and ability of Junior Cadougan, who had a bad BET game, but has been integral to why MU is where they are, getting 2nd in the BE, and now heading to a 2nd S16.

It's threads like this, watching that press conference .. pains me personally, hosting the minority poisons that can be spewed here.

Post of the year.

GGGG

Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 18, 2012, 12:08:11 AM
He was very solid today.  The OP was not absurd.  We lost against Louisville because of our PG play.   It is not one of the strengths of this team, but he played well today.


The OP was absurd, and now you are joining him.  We don't "need" a point guard.  We have a point guard.  One who played poorly against Louisville, but who rebounded to have a very nice game yesterday.

brewcity77

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 18, 2012, 01:28:01 AMListening to the press conference .. it's obvious that Buzz/the staff has read some of this thread.

Summarizing  ..  COACH BUZZ WILLIAMS and DJO delivered a middle finger directed at the original poster and others who tried throwing Junior under the bus, arguing against the tenacity and ability of Junior Cadougan, who had a bad BET game, but has been integral to why MU is where they are, getting 2nd in the BE, and now heading to a 2nd S16.

It's threads like this, watching that press conference .. pains me personally, hosting the minority poisons that can be spewed here.

All this. No doubt in my mind they're on this site.
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ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Hoopaloop on March 18, 2012, 12:08:11 AM
He was very solid today.  The OP was not absurd.  We lost against Louisville because of our PG play.   It is not one of the strengths of this team, but he played well today.
Maybe you should go back and take a look at all of our losses and figure out why we lost...who to blame it on.  I'm sure you will find other positions where we are lacking as well don't you think? 

As I said very early on when this thread was started, THE STUPIDITY OF THIS THREAD IS APPALLING. 

brewcity77

Bottom line, Louisville was a team loss. Junior had 8 turnovers not just because he had a bad game, but because we had a bad gameplan. He wasn't the only one trying to dribble through traffic, and he wasn't the one not giving himself an outlet to pass to. Cat has a 2.1 A/T ratio, that's not indicative of a bad PG. Did he have a bad game? Sure. But who didn't?

Buzz said it in the post game. It's not about one guy, it's not about him, it's about them. It's the team. They win as a team, they lose as a team. LSU didn't beat DJO, they beat Marquette. Vandy clearly kicked the crap out of Marquette. Georgetown didn't beat Todd, they beat Marquette. Syracuse ran all over all of us in the first half en route to beating Marquette. Notre Dame kicked the entire team's collective ass. Cincy? Who's that pinned on? I'd say the entire team. And Louisville, DEFINITELY a team loss.

These guys win together, they lose together. And when one guy, especially the point guard, makes a bad play it's often because the other four guys didn't do their jobs to help make him look good. If you don't get open for a pass, if you can't break free under the hoop, if you're late setting a pick, all of these things often make one guy look bad.

Bottom line, Junior's the quarterback of this team. When we lose, he's an easy target. But there's four other guys on the floor not blocking for him, dropping passes, and not looking back as they run their routes. You can pin it all on him, but it isn't fair, because everyone else is probably just as culpable.
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bilsu

We have to remember most players do have off games. Also, generally we will never know if a player is sick. Remember there was a game early this year were Cadougan was throwing up and still playing.

GOMU85

*Sits back and waits for my name to be mentioned*

patso

judging players off of one performance is irrational. Even the best NBA players throw a clunker every now and again.

speri

Quote from: GOMU85 on March 18, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
*Sits back and waits for my name to be mentioned*

and your name would be....

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: GOMU85 on March 18, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
*Sits back and waits for my name to be mentioned*

GOMU85 is the worst poster on this board, clearly knows nothing about basketball, and this thread is an embarrassment to the entire Marquette fanbase.

Happy?

Junior had a great game and was a major reason we're in the sweet 16. Just admit you were wrong about him. Or stop posting altogether.

Hoopaloop

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 18, 2012, 07:00:12 AM

The OP was absurd, and now you are joining him.  We don't "need" a point guard.  We have a point guard.  One who played poorly against Louisville, but who rebounded to have a very nice game yesterday.

OK, I get it.  I'm not advocating in the harsh terms the OP stated.  I do think that PG is our weakest area in comparison to what PGs we've had in the past 20 years at MU.  Point guards have been our staple.  He played a wonderful game yesterday. We need that to continue.

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 18, 2012, 07:01:00 AM
All this. No doubt in my mind they're on this site.

Probably.  From what I Milwaukee bros tell me, the subject of PG play has been talk on sports radio out there, too so its not limited to this site.  

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 18, 2012, 07:34:50 AM
Maybe you should go back and take a look at all of our losses and figure out why we lost...who to blame it on.  I'm sure you will find other positions where we are lacking as well don't you think? 

As I said very early on when this thread was started, THE STUPIDITY OF THIS THREAD IS APPALLING. 

Then the mods should have deleted it a long time ago.
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wyzgy

fair weather fans who all posted with their vageena heads here.  wow.  it was a terrible game, but whoever posted meanmouth comments here should be embarassed.  yes it's o.k. to be critical, but these guys want to win more than you.  they are the ones working their asses off basicly year round and oh yeah, they are humans...any one of yous guyses ever f-up a test err something??

ATWizJr

Quote from: GOMU85 on March 18, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
*Sits back and waits for my name to be mentioned*
More like hopes. Craves attention.