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February 13th Update:

Three seed out of Columbus against Davidson. Ohio State waiting for us the second weekend.

PGsHeroes32

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jesmu84

8 B10 teams in. 5 of 8 a 4 seed or higher. jeez

wadesworld

Kentucky wouldn't have to sweat until the Elite Eight.  I think their 2nd round matchup would be a tougher game than their Sweet 16 matchup would be.

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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: wadesworld on February 13, 2012, 12:04:05 PM
Kentucky wouldn't have to sweat until the Elite Eight.  I think their 2nd round matchup would be a tougher game than their Sweet 16 matchup would be.

Wisconsin is the type of team that could give UK fits. That game would put people to sleep.
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Quote from: socrplar125 on February 13, 2012, 11:57:36 AM
8 B10 teams in. 5 of 8 a 4 seed or higher. jeez

It'll be the Big Ten's year to crap the bed.

MisterJaylenBrownMU

That GTown draw is a dream.  Drexel to gain some momentum, Temple/K-State in second round, undersized Michigan State in the Sweet Sixteen (or, I suppose, Virginia or Harvard if there's an upset), and undersized Missouri in the Elite Eight (or, I suppose, Louisville? San Diego State? Illinois? Mississippi State?).

Not to mention Sweet Sixteen and Elite Eight games in St. Louis.  Where do I sign up?

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Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 13, 2012, 12:19:02 PM
Wisconsin is the type of team that could give UK fits. That game would put people to sleep.

Gonzaga is the type of team that seems to knock Wisconsin earlier than expected every single year.  A mid-major team who loves to play slow and ugly and does it better than the Badgers.  Although the teams that Wisconsin has lost to have typically had one star and a good supporting cast (Krueger at UNLV, Curry at Davidson, and Mack at Butler) while Gonzaga seems to be a more balanced team.  That would be an interesting, and boring, matchup of 2 teams I almost always pick to lose earlier than expected.

Quote from: marqptm on February 13, 2012, 12:19:24 PM
It'll be the Big Ten's year to crap the bed again.

Fixed.  0 teams in the Elite Eight last year.  Embarrassing...

Quote from: MisterDMU on February 13, 2012, 12:25:26 PM
That GTown draw is a dream.  Drexel to gain some momentum, Temple/K-State in second round, undersized Michigan State in the Sweet Sixteen (or, I suppose, Virginia or Harvard if there's an upset), and undersized Missouri in the Elite Eight (or, I suppose, Louisville? San Diego State? Illinois? Mississippi State?).

Not to mention Sweet Sixteen and Elite Eight games in St. Louis.  Where do I sign up?

Michigan State is the one team that I would actually be afraid to play from the B1G this year.  They're really good and Izzo is one of the best NCAA Tournament coaches ever.  They're almost always ready to go come March.

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Quote from: wadesworld on February 13, 2012, 12:28:01 PM
Gonzaga is the type of team that seems to knock Wisconsin earlier than expected every single year.  A mid-major team who loves to play slow and ugly and does it better than the Badgers.  Although the teams that Wisconsin has lost to have typically had one star and a good supporting cast (Krueger at UNLV, Curry at Davidson, and Mack at Butler) while Gonzaga seems to be a more balanced team.  That would be an interesting, and boring, matchup of 2 teams I almost always pick to lose earlier than expected.

Fixed.  0 teams in the Elite Eight last year.  Embarrassing...

Big Ten skated by as the BE stained the sheets earlier.

wadesworld

Quote from: marqptm on February 13, 2012, 12:30:04 PM
Big Ten skated by as the BE stained the sheets earlier.

True.  But the BE did have 2 teams that were knocked out by other BE teams in the 2nd ("3rd" technically, I suppose) round, a situation that no other conference had to face.  Plus the 11th place BE team winning it all made up for the failures of other BE teams in the tournament last year.

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Quote from: wadesworld on February 13, 2012, 12:31:51 PM
True.  But the BE did have 2 teams that were knocked out by other BE teams in the 2nd ("3rd" technically, I suppose) round, a situation that no other conference had to face.  Plus the 11th place BE team winning it all made up for the failures of other BE teams in the tournament last year.

I agree with you, just saying the Big East crap was widely reported. Let the Big Ten have that shitlight this year.

PGsHeroes32

MSU would not be a fun draw for Gtown. Green and Payne own the boards.
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MisterJaylenBrownMU

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 13, 2012, 12:36:02 PM
MSU would not be a fun draw for Gtown. Green and Payne own the boards.

I'll give you Green.  Ridiculous rebounder for his size, although I think he'd have less of an impact against Jae because he can't leave him open on the perimeter.  Even still, in a tournament game you can count on Green pulling down at least 10.

Payne, though, is averaging 4.1 rebounds a game.  Given our current size, everyone is a good rebounder against us, but even Vander is a more prolific rebounder than Payne.  I'd be MUCH more worried about Zeller, Sullinger, or the Plumlees.

Any 2 seed you draw is a tough matchup in some respect, but I'll take MSU over OSU, Duke, or UNC. 

boblawblog

I think if we win out we become a 2 seed. especially if we go to the BE champ game

dwaderoy2004

If we win out and avoid an upset in our first game of the BEAST tourney, I think you are probably right.

CTWarrior

Quote from: wadesworld on February 13, 2012, 12:31:51 PM
True.  But the BE did have 2 teams that were knocked out by other BE teams in the 2nd ("3rd" technically, I suppose) round, a situation that no other conference had to face.  Plus the 11th place BE team winning it all made up for the failures of other BE teams in the tournament last year.

We were the 11th place team in the Big East last year and I don't recall us winning it all.  But your point is well taken.  When people were moaning about the Big East getting 11 bids last year, the only team you could really site as maybe not deserving a bid was us, and we went to the sweet 16.  UConn finished 9th last year.

The rest of the Big East really stunk it up and our disastrous tourney is highlighted by the teams that lost before seed would dictate (Syracuse 3 to an 11, Louisville 4 to a 13, Georgetown 6 to an 11 and were not competitive, Notre Dame 2 to a 10 and were not competitive, Pittsburgh 1 to an 8, St. John's 6 to an 11 and not competitive).  

Three teams play to seed (Villanova lost as a 9 to an umpressive 8 (George Mason lost the next game by 32), Cincinnati lost to UConn 6 to a 3, and West Virginia lost a good game to Kentucky 5 to a 4).

Only Marquette and UConn played better than seed and we lost some credit for being utterly embarrassed by UNC.

So you can see why the BE had an awful tournament.
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bilsu

Villanova should not of got a bid. They lost their last 5 games and were not playing well before that. Georgetown also was in the tank, because their best player broke his wrist. I can understand giving Georgetwon a bid due to their body of work and the fact they indicated the player might be able to play. However, without that player they were not an NCAA calibur team. Villanova simply should not of gotten a bid.

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Quote from: CTWarrior on February 13, 2012, 01:31:59 PM
We were the 11th place team in the Big East last year and I don't recall us winning it all.  But your point is well taken.  When people were moaning about the Big East getting 11 bids last year, the only team you could really site as maybe not deserving a bid was us, and we went to the sweet 16.  UConn finished 9th last year.

The rest of the Big East really stunk it up and our disastrous tourney is highlighted by the teams that lost before seed would dictate (Syracuse 3 to an 11, Louisville 4 to a 13, Georgetown 6 to an 11 and were not competitive, Notre Dame 2 to a 10 and were not competitive, Pittsburgh 1 to an 8, St. John's 6 to an 11 and not competitive).  

Three teams play to seed (Villanova lost as a 9 to an umpressive 8 (George Mason lost the next game by 32), Cincinnati lost to UConn 6 to a 3, and West Virginia lost a good game to Kentucky 5 to a 4).

Only Marquette and UConn played better than seed and we lost some credit for being utterly embarrassed by UNC.

So you can see why the BE had an awful tournament.

As others have stated elsewhere, MU finished tied for ninth in the big East last year.  11 was only our seeding for the Big East tournament.
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Quote from: LittleMurs on February 14, 2012, 11:07:04 AM
As others have stated elsewhere, MU finished tied for ninth in the big East last year.  11 was only our seeding for the Big East tournament.

Understand but we were easily the 11th team in the mind of the committee (lowest BE seed by 2 seeds).  Agree that Nova was the worst Big East team in the tournament by Selection Sunday.
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Lunardi has is at a three seed playing Belmont in Louisville. Missouri and OSU are the 1 and 2 seeds.

TallTitan34

Quote from: PTM on February 20, 2012, 11:43:33 AM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Lunardi has is at a three seed playing Belmont in Louisville. Missouri and OSU are the 1 and 2 seeds.

Looks like he has us in Columbus now.

TallTitan34

Also we would be in Saint Louis should we advance to the Sweet 16.

brewcity77

I'd hate that draw...FSU has similar length to LSU, and a lot of guys that could give us a lot of trouble. They play great defense and wouldn't be put off by our speed...that'd be a brutal second round. And even if they were upset, Long Beach State would be a tough draw. I'd expect us to win, but they have the ability to play with anyone (single digit losses to SDSU, UNC, Kansas, and Creighton).

Ohio State is also a team I don't want to see. They're very, very good, and we don't have an answer for Sullinger up front. Looking across that bracket, I'd say we'd be in the toughest regional.

PGsHeroes32

Give me OSU all day. Davante and Jae can get Sulinger in foul trouble. Buford is actually the one who scares me. If hes on, that is when they are tough to beat.

Id be fine with a crack at them in a sweet 16 game.
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