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ToddRosiakSays

A few more updates
               




The Marquette Golden Eagles have already landed a replacement for the closed workout/scrimmage that they lost recently when USC backed out.

               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/128625573.html
               

Buchec18

Good to see Jake Thomas get granted a scholarship... sucks he must sit out for the year but I think he could be a potential role player in the future... the kid has range.

Jay Bee

What's the story on USC "backing out" on the scrimmage?
The portal is NOT closed.

PaintTouches

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 29, 2011, 07:03:40 PM
What's the story on USC "backing out" on the scrimmage?

Rosiak had said on twitter that it was due to injuries.

brewcity77

Glad to hear the George Mason replacement. Maybe not a high major, but a tourney team that seem likely to return in 2012. Also glad to hear the Jake Thomas news...even if it's just one year, it's a good faith move on Buzz's part.

Brewtown Andy

Quote from: pux90mex on August 29, 2011, 07:06:14 PM
Rosiak had said on twitter that it was due to injuries.

Particularly Jio Fontan's injury, I presume.
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77ncaachamps

Quote from: Brewtown Andy on August 29, 2011, 11:37:59 PM
Particularly Jio Fontan's injury, I presume.

Jio vs Junior.

A good measuring stick for the Cadougan. Too bad Jio is out for the year.

I hope that USC can scrimmage again. Love to see the MU ties at work.
Now if only... ;)
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Hards Alumni

Let me be the first to say boo.

I was hoping to do more with the scholarship.

tower912

The scholly was going unused.    Buzz and co were probably out scouring looking for someone who wasn't going to enroll at their original school (a la Newbill, from the other angle).     Failing that, better to use it as a gesture to someone who IS committed to the program than let it go unused.    A class move by Buzz.     Of course, a year from now, it will give the whackjobs to the west something else to complain about when JT returns to walk-on status, but they're never happy unless they are complaining about MU anyway. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: tower912 on August 30, 2011, 07:08:26 AM
The scholly was going unused.    Buzz and co were probably out scouring looking for someone who wasn't going to enroll at their original school (a la Newbill, from the other angle).     Failing that, better to use it as a gesture to someone who IS committed to the program than let it go unused.    A class move by Buzz.     Of course, a year from now, it will give the whackjobs to the west something else to complain about when JT returns to walk-on status, but they're never happy unless they are complaining about MU anyway. 

Jake was playing for MU either way.  I understand the good gesture, but it prevents MU from getting a mid season transfer... and we all know (from experience) that there are a lot more of them happening every year.

MUMac

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 30, 2011, 07:22:32 AM
Jake was playing for MU either way.  I understand the good gesture, but it prevents MU from getting a mid season transfer... and we all know (from experience) that there are a lot more of them happening every year.

Not entirely true.  MU still has one scholarship available for that purpose.  We had 11 on Scholarship prior to giving one to Jake.  We now have 12.  That leaves 1 available during the season.

tower912

It keeps us from getting 2 mid season transfers.   We can still have one schollie unused.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

BCHoopster

Jake Thomas impresses the coaches this season, there might be an opportunity for him to get a full
ride the following year.  If not it just means Buzz recruited somebody better.  He has a ton of offers
out there right now, not sure how it works, since there are only 2 in two years and 1 left next year.
If Burton is one, that only leaves one left that year and for sure that will go to a point guard, so pretty
sure Thomas will be a walk-on again.  Needs a big for last schollly.

bilsu

I do not think there is much value to mid-season transfers. At best they would be eligible the second half of next season. I rather save the scholarship for a recruit that would be eligible at the start of the season. Having seen Maymon and Smith transfer out at mid-season leads me to believe mid-season transfer players are not the best team players. I am not interested in a plyer that is going to jump ship mid-season.

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: bilsu on August 30, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
I do not think there is much value to mid-season transfers. At best they would be eligible the second half of next season. I rather save the scholarship for a recruit that would be eligible at the start of the season. Having seen Maymon and Smith transfer out at mid-season leads me to believe mid-season transfer players are not the best team players. I am not interested in a plyer that is going to jump ship mid-season.

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Hards Alumni

Quote from: bilsu on August 30, 2011, 08:53:50 AM
I do not think there is much value to mid-season transfers. At best they would be eligible the second half of next season. I rather save the scholarship for a recruit that would be eligible at the start of the season. Having seen Maymon and Smith transfer out at mid-season leads me to believe mid-season transfer players are not the best team players. I am not interested in a plyer that is going to jump ship mid-season.

Sample size = 2

Getting a player on your team for half the year is better than sitting the entire year.

bilsu

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 30, 2011, 09:11:29 AM
Sample size = 2

Getting a player on your team for half the year is better than sitting the entire year.
Using the scholarship on a mid-year transfer means he cannot play until second semester of 2012/2013 season assuming he is willing to give up a season of eligibility to play a half season. A spring signee who is a freshmen or junior college player can play in fall of 2012. North Carolina's starting point guard transfers mid-season last year and North Carolina becomes a better team. Yes this is a wide brush, but I just think players leaving mid-season generally indicates a problem. I am not sure how many mid-season transfers there are, but I believe the number is relatively small and it is not likely that the transfer and MU would have a mutual interest in each other.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: tower912 on August 30, 2011, 07:08:26 AM
The scholly was going unused.    Buzz and co were probably out scouring looking for someone who wasn't going to enroll at their original school (a la Newbill, from the other angle).     Failing that, better to use it as a gesture to someone who IS committed to the program than let it go unused.    A class move by Buzz.     Of course, a year from now, it will give the whackjobs to the west something else to complain about when JT returns to walk-on status, but they're never happy unless they are complaining about MU anyway. 

Re-read the thread. Are you sure it's Badgers fans who are never happy unless they're complaining about MU? Sheesh.

MU wasn't going to use the scholarship this season so they gave it to a walk-on for a year. You'd think fans would find that commendable. Instead, they view it as Buzz wasting the 0.2% chance that an impact mid-season transfer would come to MU. Better hope that Jared Sullinger doesn't decide over Christmas break that he wants to be a Warrior. Man, would Buzz have egg on his face!

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on August 30, 2011, 10:37:46 AM
Re-read the thread. Are you sure it's Badgers fans who are never happy unless they're complaining about MU? Sheesh.

MU wasn't going to use the scholarship this season so they gave it to a walk-on for a year. You'd think fans would find that commendable. Instead, they view it as Buzz wasting the 0.2% chance that an impact mid-season transfer would come to MU. Better hope that Jared Sullinger doesn't decide over Christmas break that he wants to be a Warrior. Man, would Buzz have egg on his face!


I'm glad you view the CBB world this way.  I, for one, prefer to keep my options open and get the best players that I can.

MUMac

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 30, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
I'm glad you view the CBB world this way.  I, for one, prefer to keep my options open and get the best players that I can.

While I agree, I also think you are making far too much of this.  Would Buzz offer 2 mid-year transfers?  Highly doubtful.  He has yet to add one in a given year.  He also needs the Scholarships for next years incoming class.

I suspect the reason Thomas received the scholarship is that Buzz has finally decided against adding someone to this years roster.  I am guessing he was looking at potential transfers, recruits that changed from '13 to '12, foreign recruits ... 

This, to me, tells me Buzz is done for this years roster.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 30, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
I'm glad you view the CBB world this way.  I, for one, prefer to keep my options open and get the best players that I can.

Well then, I'm surprised Buzz didn't consult with you on this one.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 30, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
I'm glad you view the CBB world this way.  I, for one, prefer to keep my options open and get the best players that I can.

Then why not leave a scholarship open - heck, why not leave mutliple scholarships open - in perpetuity in order to keep your options open?

kmwtrucks

I think keeping one open for Mid Year transfer is OK, 2 is pointless. 

If Jake has been better then they thought he would be, and by giving him a spot for a year that was 95% going to go unused you reward him and make sure he will be here for 2 more years as a walkon.

Look at a different way what are the odds of a 2nd mid year transfer being better then Jake? 

a solid 4 or 5th guard that is a 3 point specialist is nice. This now affords you to take a chance on 1 more Big.

brewcity77

Agreed, kmw.

Jake played great during the Pro-Am and looked a lot better than you'd expect from a walk-on. I imagine he's probably doing well with in early practices as well and working hard to get up to speed. If that's the case, what's the harm in giving out a scholarship? I understand keeping options open, but we still have a scholarship open in case there's a late commit or mid-season transfer.

I really think it's best to chalk this up to Buzz rewarding some early hard work, and not expecting to fill both schollies this year. If someone comes along (say Mitch McGary reclassifies to 2011 and wants to go to MU) we can act on it. No harm in a kindness for a kid willing to walk-on.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on August 30, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
I'm glad you view the CBB world this way.  I, for one, prefer to keep my options open and get the best players that I can.

If a mid season transfer becomes available, just get MU's worst player to transfer.

Boom. Problem solved.


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