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downtown85

I am not sure if this link was posted.  They say he is the number once prospect in Illinois for the 2012 class. 

http://ilprepbullseye.com/Taylor_Marquette.html

MUfan12

So Buzz gets the #1 kid from IL, who plays for Mac Irvin Fire.

But I read here that Reggie Smith leaving was gonna eff that relationship up. Huh.

77ncaachamps

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Earl Tatum

Hey jmreddevil---Why can't we get Jabari Parker? Shaq Cleare would be the topper.

muhs03

Quote from: Earl Tatum on August 07, 2011, 06:00:48 PM
Hey jmreddevil---Why can't we get Jabari Parker? Shaq Cleare would be the topper.

Jabari listed his top 5 at the end of July and we werent in it. I dont remember all of his favorites but it included Duke, Izzo, UNC and Illinois. And Im guessing him listing Illinois is just a friendly gesture.

brewcity77

Quote from: muhs03 on August 07, 2011, 06:04:52 PMJabari listed his top 5 at the end of July and we werent in it. I dont remember all of his favorites but it included Duke, Izzo, UNC and Illinois. And Im guessing him listing Illinois is just a friendly gesture.

I doubt we get Parker, but that top 5 is pretty stock. He doesn't have to commit for another 20 months or so, and if it's within a year he'll be committing early. Again, not saying we get him, but wait to see what he's saying come March and April. With Taylor in the fold, it's possible we could still get in on him.

texaswarrior74

Quote from: muhs03 on August 07, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
Jabari listed his top 5 at the end of July and we werent in it. I dont remember all of his favorites but it included Duke, Izzo, UNC and Illinois. And Im guessing him listing Illinois is just a friendly gesture.


He listed UNC in his top 5 and had not yet been offered by them. They finally offered him this past Thursday night.

It's one thing not to be on his list, but a whole other story when HE has you on his list and you haven't even offered yet.

Won't be MU when all the blue blood programs are all over him.

brewcity77

Quote from: texaswarrior74 on August 07, 2011, 06:32:04 PM

He listed UNC in his top 5 and had not yet been offered by them. They finally offered him this past Thursday night.

It's one thing not to be on his list, but a whole other story when HE has you on his list and you haven't even offered yet.

Won't be MU when all the blue blood programs are all over him.

Well...here's one possibility. If he holds off his decision until at least Fall of 2012 (Brian Snow wrote this week that it looks like a loooooooooong recruitment) and we end up cutting down the nets in New Orleans in April 2012 thanks to DJO averaging 30.6 ppg in the NCAA Tournament (including a robust 47-point effort in dispatching UNC in the national semifinal) maybe he decides to take a visit. While in Milwaukee, his buddy Steve Taylor convinces him that Marquette is the place to be, Buzz wins over him and his family, and even D-Wade stops back for a shootaround while wearing Marquette shorts to help sway his fellow Chi-town native. Parker decides that playing for the national champs with a good friend and following in the footsteps of Wade is just too good to pass on and decides to put on the Blue and Gold.

Of course...that may be aiming a bit high, but better too high than too low, right? ;D

MuMark

Quit dreaming about Parker. As the other poster said its not happening.

Taylor is combo forward but mostly a stretch 4. Good replacement for Jae once he puts on a little more muscle.

wyzgy

taylor reminds me of glen "big dog"  a little bit.  inside/outside in college.  then to his detriment, went mostly outside in the pros.  hopefully stevo can have a "big dog" like time here at mu!! 

avid1010

That's how I have it working out as well...anyone have a set of final four tickets?

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 07, 2011, 06:43:06 PM
Well...here's one possibility. If he holds off his decision until at least Fall of 2012 (Brian Snow wrote this week that it looks like a loooooooooong recruitment) and we end up cutting down the nets in New Orleans in April 2012 thanks to DJO averaging 30.6 ppg in the NCAA Tournament (including a robust 47-point effort in dispatching UNC in the national semifinal) maybe he decides to take a visit. While in Milwaukee, his buddy Steve Taylor convinces him that Marquette is the place to be, Buzz wins over him and his family, and even D-Wade stops back for a shootaround while wearing Marquette shorts to help sway his fellow Chi-town native. Parker decides that playing for the national champs with a good friend and following in the footsteps of Wade is just too good to pass on and decides to put on the Blue and Gold.

Of course...that may be aiming a bit high, but better too high than too low, right? ;D

muhs03

He said UK will eventually be in it at the end. LOL. Apparently, it takes awhile to get the Pay Pal Cal accounts set up so that the NCAA cant trace the money. He's not coming here. I dont have inside info except for scout crap but Buzz cant out-bid UK for his one year's worth of services. Personally, I dont like to set myself up for disappointment; to me, he has already committed to the highest bidder. Im guessing Matta gets involved later on as well. I would prefer MU stay away from that crap. Remember Anthony Davis? It was reported that either DePaul or Northwestern filed a complaint against UK. Nothing happened. Then, Syracuse, the first school to offer him, ducked out before it ended. If you 'read around', Chicago is the second most corrupt h.s. bball city behind NYC (yeah, I read the book on Stephon Marbury....what a piece of work). 

Bob "Big Daddy" Wild

Quote from: Earl Tatum on August 07, 2011, 06:00:48 PM
Hey jmreddevil---Why can't we get Jabari Parker? Shaq Cleare would be the topper.

What the others have said.  He is the number 1 recruit overall on scout.  The dude is a 1 and done type talent, and I don't think that type of player chooses MU over all of the bluebloods and home state school.  We don't have an in, and others are much better suited to the baggage that comes along with that level of talent.

In addition, we have not been listed with him in a long time, and his suitor list is a mile long.  IMO, it is ok to dream, but silly to post about it in threads and get some other reader's hopes up.

That being said, Buzz is still on a good amount of 4 star players, and a few 5 stars - I think we will still be very happy with his '12 and '13 classes when all is said and dunn.   :)
Former president.  Part-time MUScooper.

Dr. Blackheart

Chicago Trib article tonight on Taylor. Listed at 6'8''....recruited as a "player" not a 3 or 4. Good get by the staff...face up PF...ummm player... which will really be a tough match-up--and MU has always made deep runs with a strong frontline. I think he may have more upside than Shaw, and MU is a a great fit for Taylor (vs. Shaw in the end). 

#1 player in Illinois to MU, gents. That hasn't happened since Bo, IIRC.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-68-simeon-forward-taylor-picks-marquette-20110807,0,3531845.story

seakm4

Quote from: wyzgy on August 07, 2011, 09:30:46 PM
taylor reminds me of glen "big dog"  a little bit. 

I was trying to think of it.  Great comparison.    I love his stroke and think he is going to be a below the rim type player if we try to put him at the 4, but i think he's just another one of those switchables that's going to play wherever he needs to pending on the situation in the game.  

muhs03

Gimme Beejay Anya. Pipe dream, I know. I have a friend that has watched him all throughout last year's h.s. season and said he is a difference maker. That's why I was hoping the staff could get in with Jerami Grant (whom we offered about 6 months ago). Grant plays on the same team as Anya PLUS they both play for Team Takeover in BMore. I think we got screwed by the assistant coaching change at Syracuse because they are apparently leading now despite not being in it when MU originally offered. Steve Taylor, however, lessens the blow a bit.

Bob "Big Daddy" Wild

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 07, 2011, 10:38:44 PM
#1 player in Illinois to MU, gents. That hasn't happened since Bo, IIRC.

That is a bit deceiving.  #1 2012 player, not the top player in state.  That would be his Simeon teammate, Jabari Parker by most accounts.

2012 is way down for Chicago this year, especialy compared to the loaded 2011 and 2013 classes around it.  Looking forward to Steve joining the team though, hopefully he is that face up 4 that can board that Buzz has been searching for since he got here.
Former president.  Part-time MUScooper.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Tmreddevil on August 07, 2011, 10:48:09 PM
That is a bit deceiving.  #1 2012 player, not the top player in state.  That would be his Simeon teammate, Jabari Parker by most accounts.

2012 is way down for Chicago this year, especialy compared to the loaded 2011 and 2013 classes around it.  Looking forward to Steve joining the team though, hopefully he is that face up 4 that can board that Buzz has been searching for since he got here.

Yes, woe is us. Again, MU hasn't nabbed the #1 recruit from the #3/4 best hoops recruiting state in nearly 40 years. Taylor is a starter on what will be the #1 high school team in the country, and he possesses a rare match-up ability.  My god, Tyshawn Taylor didn't even start on his high school national championship team.

muhs03

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 07, 2011, 11:02:43 PM
Yes, woe is us. Again, MU hasn't nabbed the #1 recruit from the #3/4 best hoops recruiting state in nearly 40 years. Taylor is a starter on what will be the #1 high school team in the country, and he possesses a rare match-up ability.  My god, Tyshawn Taylor didn't even start on his high school national championship team.

Im not disagreeing with you but lets be objective for the sake of the original post; yes, the 2012 Chicago class is down. And yes, there are unarguably better prospects in 2013 and 2014 than there are in 2012 out of Chicago. The benefit is that the 2012 players know what it takes to win....which means deferring to younger players. Thats not a bad thing. With that said, Vincent Yarbourgh's brother (?) is very solid and Jonny Vassar is going to be a 5 star (he left Chi to play in the NE somewhere-too lazy to look it up). Nevermind Parker or Hamilton!

Marqus Howard

Quote from: muhs03 on August 07, 2011, 10:10:49 PM
He said UK will eventually be in it at the end. LOL. Apparently, it takes awhile to get the Pay Pal Cal accounts set up so that the NCAA cant trace the money. He's not coming here. I dont have inside info except for scout crap but Buzz cant out-bid UK for his one year's worth of services. Personally, I dont like to set myself up for disappointment; to me, he has already committed to the highest bidder. Im guessing Matta gets involved later on as well. I would prefer MU stay away from that crap. Remember Anthony Davis? It was reported that either DePaul or Northwestern filed a complaint against UK. Nothing happened. Then, Syracuse, the first school to offer him, ducked out before it ended. If you 'read around', Chicago is the second most corrupt h.s. bball city behind NYC (yeah, I read the book on Stephon Marbury....what a piece of work). 

I don't understand why you're being so cynical. Taylor's commitment can only help us in our attempt to recruit Parker, and if you're suggesting that Parker will commit to the school who is able to pay him the most money without the NCAA's knowledge, take that conspiracy theory elsewhere, nobody wants to hear it.

McGary is a top 5 recruit, and a lot of posters here believe that we have a legitimate shot at him, but you haven't dismissed those posts... what makes McGary any different from Parker?

Dr. Blackheart

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Quote from: muhs03 on August 07, 2011, 11:11:31 PM
Im not disagreeing with you but lets be objective for the sake of the original post; yes, the 2012 Chicago class is down. And yes, there are unarguably better prospects in 2013 and 2014 than there are in 2012 out of Chicago. The benefit is that the 2012 players know what it takes to win....which means deferring to younger players. Thats not a bad thing. With that said, Vincent Yarbourgh's brother (?) is very solid and Jonny Vassar is going to be a 5 star (he left Chi to play in the NE somewhere-too lazy to look it up). Nevermind Parker or Hamilton!

If for that damn mole   ;D   (yes, other classes are loaded...it is Malik Yarbrough, btw, and the Illini have already offered his freshman year at ZB. That said, this is a great get and fit...back in Chicago).


muhs03

Quote from: TrueBlueAndGold on August 07, 2011, 11:57:10 PM
I don't understand why you're being so cynical. Taylor's commitment can only help us in our attempt to recruit Parker, and if you're suggesting that Parker will commit to the school who is able to pay him the most money without the NCAA's knowledge, take that conspiracy theory elsewhere, nobody wants to hear it.

McGary is a top 5 recruit, and a lot of posters here believe that we have a legitimate shot at him, but you haven't dismissed those posts... what makes McGary any different from Parker?


Im sorry. Forgive me. I have stated in previous posts that we have no chance it McGary either. And, no, Im not being cynical, feel free to show me an MU track record that can fetch recruits over the likes of UK, UNC and DUke. And no, Im not talking about role players; Im talking about focal point type players. We just arent there yet. Does a top 75 player really give you so much confidence such that we can  land a top 5 player? Different animals, pal. Hey, Id love to see it but if you pay attention to the scholls like even UConn, they have trouble landing these types of players (and they have won as many championships in less time than we have visited the sweet sixteen. Sorry, Im a realist.

brewcity77

Quote from: TrueBlueAndGold on August 07, 2011, 11:57:10 PMMcGary is a top 5 recruit, and a lot of posters here believe that we have a legitimate shot at him, but you haven't dismissed those posts... what makes McGary any different from Parker?

Anyone who says they know where McGary is leaning is lying. Marquette may have a chance because they were one of the first in on him and he's visited multiple times. In addition, the rumors were first that if Texas offered, he'd go there, then if UNC offered, he'd go there. Well, both have now offered, and McGary still has yet to commit.

The truth is there are around 50 schools that think they're in on him. He hasn't said anything concrete for awhile except that he'd like to make a decision before his senior year. Does that help us? Maybe, who knows? The positive is I don't think we'll have to wait long. Win or lose (and likely lose, because 49/50 will lose) it shouldn't drag on all winter.

Do we have a chance? Sure, maybe, but no one really knows because McGary isn't saying.

On the other hand, Cleare did have us in his final seven a week ago. There's definitely hope there for the McGary pessimists.

BCHoopster

MCGary will have to see the roster for those schools before he makes a decision, he will probably want some PT time.
Now at MU, he would probably start ahead of Taylor, or at least split time with him.  I say MU still has a small window
of opportunity.  Maybe he wants to go to a smaller school, you never know what is in the head of a 17 year old.  But like
I said on another post, shoot for the moon.  One day, Buzz might strike.

Henry Sugar

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 07, 2011, 11:02:43 PM
Yes, woe is us. Again, MU hasn't nabbed the #1 recruit from the #3/4 best hoops recruiting state in nearly 40 years. Taylor is a starter on what will be the #1 high school team in the country, and he possesses a rare match-up ability.  My god, Tyshawn Taylor didn't even start on his high school national championship team.

Just to add to this, here's an article by the Bullseye Brothers.  I'm not going to sniff my nose at landing the #1 player available for 2012.

http://ilprepbullseye.com/Taylor_Marquette.html

"Even though the class of 2012 in Illinois is weak overall, that should not be meant to take away from Taylor's game, as he is hands down the #1 prospect from Illinois in that class."
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