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Erik Williams will transfer
               




Erik Williams will transfer from Marquette University at the end of the semester, a spokesman for the basketball program confirmed on Friday night.

               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/121425288.html
               

VanderBabyBlue


wadesworld

Quote from: VanderBabyBlue on May 06, 2011, 10:26:09 PM
Like clockwork....what a joke

What do you want to hear?  Why should they go out and tell you why the kid is transferring?  He made a personal decision that he wasn't in the right spot and he's fixing it.  Good luck to him, I hope it is the right decision for him.

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DomJamesToTheBasket

The talent at MU is no joke.  The roster is pretty much all top 100 guys now and it is impossible to give them all the minutes they want.  There will continue to be transfers every year because of this,  but the transfers out don't hurt like when MU only had 1 or 2 top 100 guys on the roster.  The best talent is going to stay and be rewarded.  MU has a nice little streak of sending guys to the NBA.....I see years with multiple guys going with the talent Buzz is bringing in.  That means a lot of great MU teams in the near future.  With that said,  I wish Erik the best and I will cheer him on wherever he ends up.

RyanConroy

Tough to see him go, but it may be what's best for both parties.

willie warrior

Here we go again with the excuse makers.

Smith starts several games and plays about 4 minutes a game and transfers.

Williams starts several games and plays about 6 minutes a game and transfers.\

Anybody see a trend here.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Jam Chowder

Quote from: willie warrior on May 06, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
Here we go again with the excuse makers.

Smith starts several games and plays about 4 minutes a game and transfers.

Williams starts several games and plays about 6 minutes a game and transfers.\

Anybody see a trend here.


Yeah, I see a trend: more depth means more competition, more competition leads to less playing time. Players' expectations aren't met and they seek to pursue their basketball careers elsewhere. Not exactly disturbing or alarming (not that this kind of calm, rational logic will dissuade you from wild innuendo and demagoguery).

Skatastrophy

Quote from: Jam Chowder on May 06, 2011, 11:31:46 PM
Yeah, I see a trend: more depth means more competition, more competition leads to less playing time. Players' expectations aren't met and they seek to pursue their basketball careers elsewhere. Not exactly disturbing or alarming (not that this kind of calm, rational logic will dissuade you from wild innuendo and demagoguery).

+1 for common sense.

willie warrior

And of course you have no problems with the revolving door, because "That's the way it is"
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

willie warrior

Quote from: Skatastrophy on May 06, 2011, 11:34:41 PM
+1 for common sense.
It is only the Dems that use wild innuendo and demagoguery--so that likely speaks volumes to you. I never used any.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

RyanConroy

Quote from: willie warrior on May 06, 2011, 11:36:42 PM
It is only the Dems that use wild innuendo and demagoguery--so that likely speaks volumes to you. I never used any.
This post doesn't make sense.

MUfan12

Of all the transfers that have happened, you'd think this one would be the most reasonable to expect.

Yet people still find a reason to rip Buzz for it. Unreal.

El Duderino

Quote from: MUfan12 on May 07, 2011, 02:18:03 AM
Of all the transfers that have happened, you'd think this one would be the most reasonable to expect.

Yet people still find a reason to rip Buzz for it. Unreal.

No kidding

That said, the vast majority on this forum have been rational and used common sense about this transfer. There seems to be no secret agendas involved with the transfer. Just a former top 100 recruit that hasn't developed as quickly as i'm sure both Buzz and Erik hoped, but that's far from uncommon in college basketball. So E.Williams decides that he simply wants to go somewhere that hopefully allows hm more PT. This type of stuff happens constantly in college basketball.

HouWarrior

Well then...Schultzy66 's UWM player source must have had trouble confusing E Williams with Vander...his rumor is solved. lol
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brewcity77

Quote from: willie warrior on May 06, 2011, 11:35:09 PMAnd of course you have no problems with the revolving door, because "That's the way it is"

There are only 200 minutes in a game to split between 13 guys. It sounds like Buzz is clear about telling guys they have to earn time. I am sad to see Williams leave, but he was most likely another year away from starting. The alternative is that Buzz either gives more minutes to guys he has less faith in or deliberately recruits less talented players who will be content just to be on the roster.

The only question left is which of those two philosophies are more stupid.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: willie warrior on May 06, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
Here we go again with the excuse makers.

Smith starts several games and plays about 4 minutes a game and transfers.

Williams starts several games and plays about 6 minutes a game and transfers.\

Anybody see a trend here.

The only trend I see is that the alarmingly ignorant posts of yours seem to be on the increase.

Oh, plus young kids who are basketball players want to play, not sit on the bench.  If they need a change of scenery to make that happen, go for it.  They only get to play college basketball once and they can get a college education at hundreds of schools.

GGGG

This transfer is much different than Smith or Maymon.  This was a guy who put in two years of work, wasn't a problem, didn't make waves, was given a fair shot...and it just didn't work out.  It really is hard to find fault with Buzz on this one.

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Tulsa Warrior

By all reports Erik loves Marquette, his fellow teammates and the coaching staff.  That said he wants more playing time.  With the shoulder surgery -- to comeback full strength will take a year.  That would limit his time in the 11-12 and leave him just one season to fully contribute.  By transferring he gets the rehab time ( Marquette was not in a position to redshirt him), he plays at a level where he will be assured of a starting job for two full seasons and he puts himself in a position to have a college education paid for that includes both a bachelor and masters. (2 degrees gives him some nice employment options)

4everwarriors

Kudos to Erik for analyzing his situation and acting on it. That said, his transfer doesn't hurt MU from a basketball perspective one bit.
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wyzgy

Quote from: willie warrior on May 06, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
Here we go again with the excuse makers.

Smith starts several games and plays about 4 minutes a game and transfers.

Williams starts several games and plays about 6 minutes a game and transfers.\

Anybody see a trend here.


yeah, buzz is making the team better and if you cannot see your game getting any better to battle for a spot in the rotation, then it's best i move on to a prgram that i may have a better chance at p.t. duh.  if we go by your trend, then let's see, djo should be transfering any day now too??  there must still be some opennings in phil oo1 yet for next fall-take it pass/fail, then come back and answer your own question

NCMUFan

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Quote from: willie warrior on May 06, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
Here we go again with the excuse makers.

Smith starts several games and plays about 4 minutes a game and transfers.

Williams starts several games and plays about 6 minutes a game and transfers.\

Anybody see a trend here.

Willie, glad you spotted the trend.  It has been happening for decades.  You are a quick one. By the way, they added a 3 point line and a shot clock.

BCHoopster

As much as I liked  Eric as a person, this can give Buzz a chance to have a great recruiting year in
2012.  Now for sure there is a strong opportunity for a player to step in and start as a freshman.  The
question I do have, is Juan Anderson strong enough to play serious minutes next year?

National Champs

Quote from: willie warrior on May 06, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
Here we go again with the excuse makers.

Smith starts several games and plays about 4 minutes a game and transfers.

Williams starts several games and plays about 6 minutes a game and transfers.\

Anybody see a trend here.


Two data points don't make a trend. Maybe you could add Maymon's 16.3 then explain to us simpletons--preferably with an excel chart--what that trend would be.

When a program brings in a lot of talent as MU does, there is always going to be a battle for PT. After two years of fighting for PT Erik couldn't get the minutes he wanted. Add in the fact that he has a shoulder injury that he will need time to rehab from and transferring seems like a good move by Ewill.
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