Vander rumor

[Schultzy66]

The reason I asked was that I heard from a relative of a player at UWM that Vander is leaving the program, and I was wondering if anyone closer to the program knew anything.  I hope that it is not true because of how valuable he is defensively.  That's not all I was told either.

[Clam Crowder]

Why in God's name would a UWM player's relative know that information...this is even more moronic than your first post....I think you might as well change your name and come back as someone else.

[GGGG]

Look. The guy just asked a question. To answer there are no indications that he is leaving.

[MUfan12]

That's not all I was told either.

No. Way. That is so awesome.

[MerrittsMustache]

Why in God's name would a UWM player's relative know that information...this is even more moronic than your first post....I think you mine as well change your name and come back as someone else.

He's a new poster who is curious about something he had been told. He's not trying to start a rumor. He's wondering if anyone had any info on a rumor that he heard. Lighten up.

As Sultan stated, at this point all signs point to Vander staying.

[Skatastrophy]

When a tread gets locked it's usually not advisable to start another thread on the same topic. 

[MUMac]

Why in God's name would a UWM player's relative know that information...this is even more moronic than your first post....I think you might as well change your name and come back as someone else.

One of UWM's players is from the Madison area - Middleton - who's father formerly coached there.  No knowledge if this is the "source", but I would not necessarily call it moronic.

[Schultzy66]

I will say that my source knew about Vander's fight before anything was made public. 
Let's hope Vander's problems are over.

[reinko]

I will say that my source knew about Vander's fight before anything was made public. 
Let's hope Vander's problems are over.

Did you source get knocked in the grill for calling VB, Vander Orange?

[brewcity77]

He's a new poster who is curious about something he had been told. He's not trying to start a rumor.

Or he's a troll looking to start controversy. The guy joined the forum and within an hour had people discussing whether or not Marquette's highest ranked recruit in nearly 30 years was planning to transfer.

Maybe he's actually a Marquette fan, maybe he has just lurked for years before finally joining and contributing today, but this is the most classic troll behavior you'll ever see, even if he's not really a troll.

Seriously, a UW-M's player's relative told him that Vander was leaving Marquette? And in what world is that a reliable source? Hell, even Dark Helmet would have considered their connection to be "absolutely nothing".

[kryza]

He mentioned a few days ago he will be at Marq for summer school.

http://twitter.com/#!/VeezyV_2/status/63305860960616448

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

A reliable source recently told me that Bo Ryan was helping to keep Osama bin Laden safe in Pakistan.

Does anyone know if this is true?

[wadesworld]

A reliable source recently told me that Bo Ryan was helping to keep Osama bin Laden safe in Pakistan.

Does anyone know if this is true?

A cousin of a Marquette basketball coach told me it was.  Must be.

[Tugg Speedman]

I will say that my source knew about Vander's fight before anything was made public. 
Let's hope Vander's problems are over.

Assuming this is a legit question ....

VB fight was public knowledge last October. I knew about it before Christmas because it was on the Milwaukee Court System website a few days after the incident.  Unless your source knew about it October 24, 2010, (the incident was October 23) it was already public news.

Second, if VB wants to leave, where is he going?  After his disappointing Freshman year, who is going to take him?  Wisconsin is not.  He cannot transfer to a BIG East School (as their rules require a two year sit-out to transfer between BE schools) and I would be surprised if another B10 school would be interested.  After that, why would a school hundreds of miles from Wisconsin want him?

So, unless he wants to go to a mid-major, I doubt he is going anywhere.

Lastly, now that it is early May, how many schools actually have a spot open for someone like him?  Other transfers announced they were leaving weeks ago.

In sum, nothing about this makes any sense.  Now if your source can tell us something we don't know that changes the equation, I'm all ears.

[HouWarrior]

A reliable source recently told me that Bo Ryan was helping to keep Osama bin Laden safe in Pakistan.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Not likely...with Bo involved, Osama would have been exposed, and found out every year at tourney time.lol

Here is an interesting true one, though. An Osama bin Laden cousin attended HS with my daughter at CY Springs HS (EWill, and KBradley, are also alums). She was one of a very very extended wealthy family--there were other Bin Ladens in other USA regions, too . In the days after 9/11, she was flown out of the USA. (among the flights referenced on "Farenheit 911").

Moving to the speculative, lol, ....If she (cousin) followed BB, and her Cy Springs HS alums, she may well be a fan of MU.

[bilsu]

Second, if VB wants to leave, where is he going?  After his disappointing Freshman year, who is going to take him?  Wisconsin is not.  He cannot transfer to a BIG East School (as their rules require a two year sit-out to transfer between BE schools) and I would be surprised if another B10 school would be interested.  After that, why would a school hundreds of miles from Wisconsin want


[/quote]

Vander has a lot of potential, so I would think there would be several opportunities for him. Who saids Vander wants to leave? The question is whether Buzz will keep him? If the fight was the only thing Vander was involved with, I think he is okay. However, there has been talk of up to three basketball players being involved in something more serious. I have no idea who those players are or where things stand on that. However, I believe if there is any truth to the allocations they will be sent packing by Buzz. So far I am happy that no one is leaving, but I am not sure that in the end that will be the case.

[Marquette84]

Or he's a troll looking to start controversy. The guy joined the forum and within an hour had people discussing whether or not Marquette's highest ranked recruit (#48 RSCI) in nearly 30 years was planning to transfer.

Has it been that long since Dominic James (#36 RSCI)?  Time sure flies.  

Assuming this is a legit question ....
Second, if VB wants to leave, where is he going?  After his disappointing Freshman year, who is going to take him?  

If you honestly don't believe Blue displayed enough potential that any other school would offer him a scholarship at this point, why would MU renew his scholarship?

Alternatively, if you think that a disappointing freshman year is enough to scare off every decent coach, what does that say about Buzz offering Jamil Wilson?

I think you're vastly underestimating the number of teams that would be interested in Blue.

Lastly, now that it is early May, how many schools actually have a spot open for someone like him?  Other transfers announced they were leaving weeks ago.

The lack of a spot open didn't stop us from taking Jamil Wilson even later in the year--and Wilson's freshman year was even more disappointing than Blue's.

Just saying, if a coach wants a player badly enough, a spot will be found--and a disappointing freshman year isn't enough to keep a team from taking a chance.

[kmwtrucks]

Vander would have the same teams that looked at him the 1st time, other then UW.  Most Fr are inconsistent.  He lost his confidence on the offense end, but looks to be a good defender, passer, and rebounder from the OG spot all ready.  He was a contributor on a NCAA team, that is all you can ask from most FR. 

[dgies9156]

Assuming this is a legit question ....
Second, if VB wants to leave, where is he going?  After his disappointing Freshman year, who is going to take him?  Wisconsin is not.  He cannot transfer to a BIG East School (as their rules require a two year sit-out to transfer between BE schools) and I would be surprised if another B10 school would be interested.  After that, why would a school hundreds of miles from Wisconsin want him?

Marquette would be likely to block him from attending Wisconsin as well. Just like they did Jeronne Maymon. So he would be mid-major bound.

Vander is going to be starting for us for at least two years and hopefully leading us to the Final Four! It's that simple.

[muball]

there are SEC, A10, MVC, B12 teams that would luv him.

[GGGG]

Vander is staying. The rumor is just that. He made some noise about being unhappy early but he is planning to stay.

[willie warrior]

The reason I asked was that I heard from a relative of a player at UWM that Vander is leaving the program, and I was wondering if anyone closer to the program knew anything.  I hope that it is not true because of how valuable he is defensively.  That's not all I was told either.

Sorry Schultzy--Vander's defensive value has been vastly overrated.

[brewcity77]

Has it been that long since Dominic James (#36 RSCI)?  Time sure flies.  

Smartass

Blue was still considered top-25 and a 5-star prospect by some recruiting sites when he came here. I don't recall anyone ranking James that high. He may not have had the same RSCI number, but his peak ratings were higher than James. The last guy who had as much acclaim coming in was Kerry Trotter back in the early 1980s.

[MerrittsMustache]

Marquette would be likely to block him from attending Wisconsin as well. Just like they did Jeronne Maymon. So he would be mid-major bound.

Vander is going to be starting for us for at least two years and hopefully leading us to the Final Four! It's that simple.

Vander isn't going anywhere.

That being said, the posters who think VB would have no place to go if he were to transfer are complete fools. Maybe he'd end up at a mid-major like Maymon did 

[Skatastrophy]

Vander isn't going anywhere.

That being said, the posters who think VB would have no place to go if he were to transfer are complete fools. Maybe he'd end up at a mid-major like Maymon did 

+1

Who wouldn't take a recruit with such tremendous upside?  Complete goofiness in this thread.