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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2011, 12:23:05 PM
Agree



Chicos, I want to know what you think deep down is going to happen? What do your gut instincts tell you?
Farva:"Give me six Schlitzes."
O'Hagan: "Take it easy, Rod."
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Sir Lawrence

Ludum habemus.

Benny B

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 23, 2011, 12:20:40 PM
Benny...your values aren't his.  I most certainly wouldn't want to move to Norman, but don't project what he might find important.

It's not a projection, it's merely a counter-argument to those who are sold on the common theme that "home & roots" are not only a universal consideration but a primary motivating factor.  History has not shown this to be the case.

Does that mean that Buzz is going to follow suit?  Of course not, but assuming I were making a projection, how would such be any less plausible than those projecting that Buzz will make a decision because he wants to move back home?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Benny, there are certainly some counterpoints to the things you mentioned, but the rant was awesome.  Old School Dennis Miller awesome.

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Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 23, 2011, 12:30:23 PM
Benny, why the Beaver Dam hate? 

Based on our visitor yesterday that mysteriously disappeared, Beaver Dam deserves some hate around here.

Benny B

Quote from: Litehouse on March 23, 2011, 12:31:57 PM
Benny, there are certainly some counterpoints to the things you mentioned, but the rant was awesome.  Old School Dennis Miller awesome.

I'll try to mix in an allusion or two to Dante's Inferno or the Greco-Roman War next time.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

MUMac

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 23, 2011, 12:20:40 PM
Benny...your values aren't his.  I most certainly wouldn't want to move to Norman, but don't project what he might find important.

While I agree with what you say, isn't that also the case for those that are saying he WANTS to move to Oklahoma to be closer to home?  That his dream job is Texas?  He wants to be back in the Southwest?

I have heard both sides on this topic, but nothing from Buzz or Corey.  Frankly, neither side is right, because they are not Buzz and Corey.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: LightBlueJerseys on March 23, 2011, 12:29:19 PM
Chicos, I want to know what you think deep down is going to happen? What do your gut instincts tell you?

I can't answer what's inside his soul in terms of "where home is".  Some people have a strong tie to a certain place and consider that home.  For me, having lived in Central America, South America, all over the USA....home is where I live, not a specific place.  It's different for everyone.

What does his wife think?  My wife feels California is home...I don't....yet here we are in California.   ;D


Professionally, that's up in the air as well.  I see where Ners says Buzz built this thing...sorry, I don't agree.  He's extended what was rebuilt.  Now, can he take it to another level?  That remains to be seen.  Some coaches don't want to be seen as someone that is extending what was already here.  Others want to take what was good and make it better.  What's important for him on this?  I don't know.

On the relationship side, I'm sure he doesn't want to leave any of the recruits or current players but the reality is that happens all the time.  He was still a "people person" at New Orleans...right?  He recruited players to play there and coached those guys for a year...he left them.  At some point, he's going to have to leave players unless he stays here forever.  Unlikely.

So, personally I think he stays and hope he stays but without knowing what are the strongest tugs on him, who knows.

NersEllenson

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 23, 2011, 04:22:29 PM

Professionally, that's up in the air as well.  I see where Ners says Buzz built this thing...sorry, I don't agree.  He's extended what was rebuilt.  Now, can he take it to another level?  That remains to be seen.  Some coaches don't want to be seen as someone that is extending what was already here.  Others want to take what was good and make it better.  What's important for him on this?  I don't know.

On the relationship side, I'm sure he doesn't want to leave any of the recruits or current players but the reality is that happens all the time.  He was still a "people person" at New Orleans...right?  He recruited players to play there and coached those guys for a year...he left them.  At some point, he's going to have to leave players unless he stays here forever.  Unlikely.

I can agree with paragraph 1 above..paragraph 2 has no merit.  The UNO adminisration quit on Buzz and the team.  AT MU Buzz not only has practice facilities to use, meal money for his team, buses..he also has a private jet to use for recruiting...a FAR cry from leaving UNO behind.  As for paragraph 1, my verbiage wasn't right...Buzz came into a program that had been rebuilt, yet faced a few challenges for Year 2 and 3 on the job...now that he has us in a place that we've not been since the great D-Wade...with a many talented players returning next year - plus some recruits that many feel will be very good and are slightly underrated nationally....all of that is a lot to walk away from...and a measure of what he has built in his time here...
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

ChicosBailBonds

Fair enough...my point remains, however, that at some point in his life he's going to have to leave players he coached and recruited unless he plans on staying at Marquette forever.  I don't think anyone feels that will happen.  As such, as strong as the "people person" argument is, it's not one that will ultimately be the most important determinate factor IMO.