Why is jp tokoto announcing at ten at night?

[4everwarriors]

Every year Wisconsin has a #1.  I don't recall Vander's live TV announcement last year.  I don't recall Maymon's two years ago.

You mean Gasser or Bray last year?

[Tugg Speedman]

You mean Gasser or Bray last year?

Don't remember their live announcements either.

[Pakuni]

There is no "UNC effect"...you guys need to get over the inferiority complex, really ity is getting tiresome.

You're right. Neil Fingleton and Matt Wenstrom totally deserved McDonald's AA honors.

The negativity and personal attacks on this board is unrivaled on ANY other board that I frequent....

Says the guy who declared that his fellow posters have a tiresome inferiority complex.
Thanks for laying off the negative personal attacks and raising the positivity around here.

[StillAWarrior]

There is no "UNC effect"...you guys need to get over the inferiority complex, really ity is getting tiresome.

JP's ranking fell because of a poor performance early in the summer and also because unlike other "top" prospects, he was not "playing up" in competition. He then stepped it up and performed like many though he would/should in the recent tournament at MU high school....and recruiting services are watching him more closely to see if really did deserve the early rankings and hype.

IF he goes to a school like Oak Hill with far better competition (even at practice everyday) and performs the way most think he is capable of, his stock will rise again.....it will have ZERO to do with him being a UNC recruit and everything to do with what he shows on the hardwood.

And to the naysayers, he might be ranked #36 but he's # 1 in Wisconsin which is why it is big news.

The negativity and personal attacks on this board is unrivaled on ANY other board that I frequent....

I'm hardly the first person to suggest that rankings are affected by where a kid signs.  And many people who have hypothesized about this are not posters on this board.  There was nothing at all negative about my post, and I don't think it even remotely suggests an inferiority complex.  And I agree with you that I would expect Tokoto's stock to rise if he goes to a school with more exposure and better competition.  But if you think my point was solely about Tokoto, you missed my point.

And see how I did that without any personal attack or negativity.  I know how strongly you feel about those things...

[mikem91288]

Anyone want to go to Dave and Busters? I could go for some Thursday night gaming

[wadesworld]

Moving on to the next question, will this announcement be open to anyone that wants to go down and see it live at D&B?  If so, I still say Tokoto is risking a PR disaster and could get boo'ed on live TV when he says UNC and Oak Hill (not MU or UW)?

Or does Wisconsin have such an inferiority complex that when he announces UNC and Oak Hill everyone politely claps because it is understood that Wisconsin residents are second class citizens and we're happy this kid can escape this hell?  And is Wisconsin so inferior that the 36th best High School kid deserves an announcement he is getting out because the area is incapable of producing anything better, in any sport or any discipline?  At least Chicago or Cleveland would only do something like this if the kid was the consensus #1 player in the country and the decision was pros or college.  Not Wisconsin, third team AA is good enough for this treatment.

Personally, I think a live announcement like he's planning (UNC and maybe Oak Hill) is tantamount to saying everyone that stays in Wisconsin is a loser.  That's why I suggested he would be boo'ed ... unless we all agree that Wisconsin residents are indeed inferior to VA (Oak Hill) and NC (UNC) residents and applaud he is getting out and only wish we could.

84, you are a fool.  First of all, you think fans will boo him for choosing UNC but not for choosing UW or MU?  So say he comes out and picks UW...MU fans will applaud because he didn't choose UNC but instead chose the rival that they will play against every year?  Really?  That makes sense...  Or UW fans will clap for him to choose MU but boo if it's UNC?  OK.  If you HONESTLY think that people are going to line up to get in to see a kid who almost nobody in Milwaukee knows make a decision on his college choice, then there is going to be booing no matter what school he chooses.  There is no doubt that there would be more booing for choosing UW or MU than if he chooses UNC.

And how is the kid saying he is too good for Wisconsin by leaving the state for college?  Where were you originally from?  Where did you go to college?  Have you lived in the same city your whole life?  If not, you must be too damn good for that city you were raised in.  You don't know anybody from Chicago who came to Marquette?  Those kids must be too good for Chicago, hey?  The kid is making a COLLEGE CHOICE.  It's really not that hard to understand...YOU ARE BLOWING THIS COMPLETELY OUT OF PROPORTION!

This is a big deal because for a LONG time he was a consensus top 5 recruit in the entire nation.  As a result he began getting a lot of local publicity.  He had newspaper articles written about him.  He had Hall of Fame coaches flying into Menomonee Falls to watch a crappy high school team's OPEN GYM over the summer going into his SOPHOMORE YEAR of high school (Roy Williams).  He was, and still IS, a very BIG TIME recruit that Menomonee Falls fans, Marquette fans, and Wisconsin fans all have followed.  They want to know what his college decision is because they have read articles about him and gone to watch him play since he had so much hype.  The local news broadcasts are bringing us this decision.  Did Vander Blue, Jeronne Maymon, TJ Bray, etc. have Bill Self, Coach K, Roy Williams?  Nope.  Were they as hyped up and highly touted as JP Tokoto?  Nope.  Were they ever considered a top 5 recruit in the entire nation for any period of time by any recruiting service?  Nope.  This is NOT the same situation that those players were in.  How hard is it to understand that?

He is shunning nobody by choosing to go to UNC.  He was never a part of the MU or UW programs, he never committed to be a part of either of those programs.  He owes absolutely nothing to any of those programs or any of us fans.  He is going to go to Dave and Busters and have a fun night with family and friends and make an announcement about where he will be attending college.  I didn't know it wasn't allowed to leave your state to go to college...otherwise you're way above whatever state you are from.  Un-fracking-believable.  Get a clue.

[Lennys Tap]

84, you are a fool.  First of all, you think fans will boo him for choosing UNC but not for choosing UW or MU?  So say he comes out and picks UW...MU fans will applaud because he didn't choose UNC but instead chose the rival that they will play against every year?  Really?  That makes sense...  Or UW fans will clap for him to choose MU but boo if it's UNC?  OK.  If you HONESTLY think that people are going to line up to get in to see a kid who almost nobody in Milwaukee knows make a decision on his college choice, then there is going to be booing no matter what school he chooses.  There is no doubt that there would be more booing for choosing UW or MU than if he chooses UNC.

And how is the kid saying he is too good for Wisconsin by leaving the state for college?  Where were you originally from?  Where did you go to college?  Have you lived in the same city your whole life?  If not, you must be too damn good for that city you were raised in.  You don't know anybody from Chicago who came to Marquette?  Those kids must be too good for Chicago, hey?  The kid is making a COLLEGE CHOICE.  It's really not that hard to understand...YOU ARE BLOWING THIS COMPLETELY OUT OF PROPORTION!

This is a big deal because for a LONG time he was a consensus top 5 recruit in the entire nation.  As a result he began getting a lot of local publicity.  He had newspaper articles written about him.  He had Hall of Fame coaches flying into Menomonee Falls to watch a crappy high school team's OPEN GYM over the summer going into his SOPHOMORE YEAR of high school (Roy Williams).  He was, and still IS, a very BIG TIME recruit that Menomonee Falls fans, Marquette fans, and Wisconsin fans all have followed.  They want to know what his college decision is because they have read articles about him and gone to watch him play since he had so much hype.  The local news broadcasts are bringing us this decision.  Did Vander Blue, Jeronne Maymon, TJ Bray, etc. have Bill Self, Coach K, Roy Williams?  Nope.  Were they as hyped up and highly touted as JP Tokoto?  Nope.  Were they ever considered a top 5 recruit in the entire nation for any period of time by any recruiting service?  Nope.  This is NOT the same situation that those players were in.  How hard is it to understand that?

He is shunning nobody by choosing to go to UNC.  He was never a part of the MU or UW programs, he never committed to be a part of either of those programs.  He owes absolutely nothing to any of those programs or any of us fans.  He is going to go to Dave and Busters and have a fun night with family and friends and make an announcement about where he will be attending college.  I didn't know it wasn't allowed to leave your state to go to college...otherwise you're way above whatever state you are from.  Un-fracking-believable.  Get a clue.

Perfectly said.

[Litehouse]

But he won't announce it until Thursday night at 10 p.m. CST in an exclusive interview with the local Milwaukee Fox affiliate, WITI-TV, at Dave & Buster's in Wauwatosa, Wisc.

Wait, this is all for Ch. 6?  Is Jen Lada doing the interview?  That could help our chances.

[Tugg Speedman]

84, you are a fool.  

This is a big deal because for a LONG time he was a consensus top 5 recruit in the entire nation.  As a result he began getting a lot of local publicity.  He had newspaper articles written about him.  He had Hall of Fame coaches flying into Menomonee Falls to watch a crappy high school team's OPEN GYM over the summer going into his SOPHOMORE YEAR of high school (Roy Williams).  He was, and still IS, a very BIG TIME recruit that Menomonee Falls fans, Marquette fans, and Wisconsin fans all have followed.  They want to know what his college decision is because they have read articles about him and gone to watch him play since he had so much hype.  The local news broadcasts are bringing us this decision.  Did Vander Blue, Jeronne Maymon, TJ Bray, etc. have Bill Self, Coach K, Roy Williams?  Nope.  Were they as hyped up and highly touted as JP Tokoto?  Nope.  Were they ever considered a top 5 recruit in the entire nation for any period of time by any recruiting service?  Nope.  This is NOT the same situation that those players were in.  How hard is it to understand that?

First part ... probably

Larger passage above  and include Lenny, Texas warrior, Mustache et. al ... you're all saying that UW/Bo, and MU/Buzz are indeed second class rate.  The great and powerful Roy Williams came a calling and yes we are suppose to go down on bended knee for him.  Bo and Buzz going to MF is no big deal because those coaches of loser second rate programs up in the snow belt where only second rate people live.  Read what you wrote again!

Jamil Wilson was top 10 his sophomore year and Izzo was spotted in Racine several times.  He did not have a live TV announcement.  Is that because Izzo is another loser like Bo and Buzz?

I had no idea the inferiority complex among Wisconsin residents was this bad.  If you want to applaud a kid ranked the slightly better than Vander for escaping the crap hole known as Wisconsin, that's your choice.  I somehow thought people around here had more self-respect and expected more than trying to be second rate.  I find this entire broadcast insulting.  Why does Wisconsin need a live broadcast of a kid to remind them they are second class?  

Maybe I still tainted by watching football recruiting.  You have any idea how serious it is in the south?  If a Alabama kid ranked as high as Tokoto or (Vander) even attempted a live broadcast to announce he was going to, say Miami, the state police would need a Brinks truck to get him out alive.  But hey, I guess they believe they are first rate and expect the best, we don't.

I hope not everyone shares you inferiority complex and likes to applaud people that say their losers for handing around here.

[wadesworld]

First part ... probably

Larger passage above  and include Lenny, Texas warrior, Mustache et. al ... you're all saying that UW/Bo, and MU/Buzz are indeed second class rate.  The great and powerful Roy Williams came a calling and yes we are suppose to go down on bended knee for him.  Bo and Buzz going to MF is no big deal because those coaches of loser second rate programs up in the snow belt where only second rate people live.  Read what you wrote again!

Jamil Wilson was top 10 his sophomore year and Izzo was spotted in Racine several times.  He did not have a live TV announcement.  Is that because Izzo is another loser like Bo and Buzz?

I had no idea the inferiority complex among Wisconsin residents was this bad.  If you want to applaud a kid ranked the slightly better than Vander for escaping the crap hole known as Wisconsin, that's your choice.  I somehow thought people around here had more self-respect and expected more than trying to be second rate.  I find this entire broadcast insulting.  Why does Wisconsin need a live broadcast of a kid to remind them they are second class?  

Maybe I still tainted by watching football recruiting.  You have any idea how serious it is in the south?  If a Alabama kid ranked as high as Tokoto or (Vander) even attempted a live broadcast to announce he was going to, say Miami, the state police would need a Brinks truck to get him out alive.  But hey, I guess they believe they are first rate and expect the best, we don't.

I hope not everyone shares you inferiority complex and likes to applaud people that say their losers for handing around here.

LOL.  Please read my post above for my response.  You are absolutely foolish.

[Tugg Speedman]

Where were you originally from?  Where did you go to college?  

Get a clue.

First I'm not absolutely foolish, I'm completely foolish.  Big difference!

Second, why don't you read that passage above and think really hard about it ... I'll bet you'll figure it out without even a hint from me.

Third, AND MOST IMPORTANT (since you like CAPS) ... I'm criticizing the live TV event, not Tokoto.  I'm criticizing channel 6 for deciding to spend money to cover it live.

I don't understand why anyone outside of college basketball fans give a rip about this story.  And, the college basketball fans that give a rip are largely MU and UW fans.  Why do they want to watch a story about a kid going to UNC?

Why is this news?  Why does my Mother-in-law in Racine care in the slightest?  Why is Fox wasting its resources?

Your answer says, because we are inferior and we like heart-warming stories about people that escape this crap hole known as Wisconsin and secretly wish we could get as far away from here as well.

[wadesworld]

First I'm not absolutely foolish, I'm completely foolish.  Big difference!

I don't understand why anyone outside of college basketball fans give a rip about this story.  And, the college basketball fans that give a rip are largely MU and UW fans.  Why do they want to watch a story about a kid going to UNC?

Why is this news?  Why does my Mother-in-law in Racine care in the slightest?  Why is Fox wasting its resources?

Your answer says, because we are inferior and we like heart-warming stories about people that escape this crap hole known as Wisconsin and secretly wish we could get as far away from here as well.

Well at least you'll admit to that.

Why does anyone give a rip about the story?  Because this is a local kid who has been highly touted since his freshman year of high school as one of the best basketball players at his age in the entire country.  People have seen him and heard about him for the past two years and want to know where he will go to play college basketball.  Is it that hard to understand?  People want to know what the local star is going to do.

This has nothing to do with how our state is and it is ridiculous to suggest that it does.  The kid is CHOOSING A COLLEGE.  The kid is not choosing a state that gets kicked out of the United States of America here.  The sun will still shine on Wisconsin someday if he chooses UNC, or on North Carolina if he chooses MU/UW.  He is choosing a basketball program to play for, not a state.  And he is choosing the best basketball program in the country.  Does that mean that MU/UW are bad programs?  Or that Buzz/Bo/Izzo are bad coaches?  NO!  I don't know where you get this idea from.  It means that Roy Williams and North Carolina form the best college basketball in the United States of America, and not many basketball players from the state of Wisconsin have the opportunity to go there, so when one does it is BIG news.  Again, what is hard to understand about this?

Ask yourself these simple questions and maybe it'll help you understand 1 or 2 things that you clearly don't:
- Did I ever say that the state of Wisconsin sucks?
- Is the kid selecting a college to attend?
- Are kids allowed to leave the state that they live in to attend college?
- Did I ever say Buzz Williams, Bo Ryan, or Tom Izzo were bad coaches?
- Did I ever say MU or UW were bad programs?

I will leave these questions up to you to decide the answers to and step back from this debate if you can't figure them out for yourself.  Pretty simple, pretty self explanatory.

[Silkk the Shaka]

AnotherMU84,

Ask yourself this: Did Juan Anderson make a statement about the entire state of California by choosing to attend MU over Cal?  No, he thought Marquette was the best fit for him.  Picking a college out of state says nothing about the state you were raised in.

[mu_hilltopper]

Not sure if anyone posted this .. the 10pm announcement will be streamed here:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/jp-tokoto-college-announcement

[ChicosBailBonds]

AnotherMU84,

Ask yourself this: Did Juan Anderson make a statement about the entire state of California by choosing to attend MU over Cal?  No, he thought Marquette was the best fit for him.  Picking a college out of state says nothing about the state you were raised in.

Ring a ding ding.  Absolutely.

[Dish]

Can Tokoto even get into D&B after 9pm? I remember that place carded harder than any other establishment.

[Stretchdeltsig]

Wades world... you are very windy... too long worded.  The point is that Tokoto has a right to play for who ever he wants.  However, it is a kick in the blank to his high school and to Marquette and UW and the state of Wisconsin for losing a very talented player.  It is very disappointing.  Fortunately, Buzz and Bo are great coaches who recruit extremely well.  JP could have helped either Marquette orU W.  Both schools will do well without him.  JP could have been a huge hero for either team.  For NC he is one of many! 

[QuetteHoops]

The good thing about him not picking Marquette is I get to watch my brother's team Waukesha South end his high school basketball career in Wisconsin on Saturday. Little bit of revenge and it will feel good to cheer against him, but obviously he made the right choice for him and I'm sure he will be very successful at unc he is very VERY talented.

[Doris Burkes Thong]

I will poop my pants if he actually picked Marquette...that's how surprised I would be.

[ecompt]

I think your pants are safe.

[TallTitan34]

Can Tokoto even get into D&B after 9pm? I remember that place carded harder than any other establishment.

I thought this too.

[Doris Burkes Thong]

Can Tokoto even get into D&B after 9pm? I remember that place carded harder than any other establishment.

My guess is they're in a private room where no alochol is being seved and therefore it doesn't really matter.

[Skitch]

Looks like North Carolina it is

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/117323978.html

J.P. Tokoto will wear Carolina blue.

Multiple sources confirmed tonight that Tokoto, a junior at Menomonee Falls, will play collegiately at the University of North Carolina.

Tokoto is holding a 10 p.m. press conference to make his decision official.

The 6-foot-7 Tokoto is one of the most highly recruited players in state history. And just like Kohler's Joe Wolf 29 years ago, Tokoto will take his talents to Chapel Hill, N.C.

Tokoto recently narrowed his list of eight schools to UNC, Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, Marquette, Maryland, UCLA and Wisconsin.

North Carolina coach Roy Williams has made Tokoto a priority, though. And the extremely athletic Tokoto should be a natural fit in the Tar Heels' up-tempo attack.

"I think Tokoto has a chance to be a heck of a college basketball player," Evan Daniels of scout.com said. "His athletic ability is superior to most in the (2012) class and he's spent a lot of time working to improve his jump shot and ball handling."

[MerrittsMustache]

Looks like North Carolina it is

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/117323978.html

Good for him. I wish him the best!

[brewcity77]

Also wish JP the best. Hopefully he'll find plenty of success at UNC, and if things don't work out, well, he can always come back home

Seriously, though, it's a great move for the kid. He's certainly earned it.