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BCHoopster

Vander has along way to go before he thinks he will be playing in the NBA.  He has obvious skills, but lets see
how he plays in the Big East.  He has done nothing to show me he is special on Offense.  The NBA is all about
offense as most players learn how to play D, particularly after they see a few checks from the league.  Dwade
and Wes played D in college, then they learned O in the league.  Vander will get better and better as he gets
older, but if he can not score in double figures at MU, he would be hard pressed to score in double figures in
the NBA.  A GM would be fried if they took on a 10 point scorer in the first round.  That is how you lose your
job.  If he can score 15 or more next year (do not see it with the talent coming back) then all of us would be
impressed.  If he went to Wisky he would of had a harder time scoring, playing in the 60's per game with truly
rock solid offensive players like Leuer and Taylor.

wadesworld

I agree that Vander is not ready for the NBA, and who knows, he may never be.  He has the tools to get there, it'll come down to his hard work.  The point of my post was to point out how ridiculous the thread was considering he gave an honest answer to a journalist asking a question.  He did not write an article himself, and he did not come out and say he was going to test the draft waters after this year.

wadesworld

#27
Quote from: OnWisconsin on December 26, 2010, 09:53:08 AM
What the hell do Booker Stanley's problem's from seven years ago have to do with Vander Blue having no chance of playing in the NBA till after his senior season? Since you must like Stanley so much, you'll be happy to know he turned his life around after what he did. Just won a national championship with UW-Whitewater and will graduate this year.

As for the actual subject of Blue.. wow where to start.

Size: 6'4 180 lbs (wet and wearing boots maybe) regardless, that's tiny.
Shooting: I don't even need to say anything

Blue is a nice player, would have liked him at UW. However I think Gasser is a better fit, same with Blue and Marquette.

But honestly dude, posting booker stanley pictures on a message board? get a life...  



What does it have to do with this?  Well, considering that the entire thread over at the Badger scout forum is about how much better UW@Madison is of a school than Marquette and how the student-athletes at UW@Madison are held to a higher standard than student-athletes at any other school, and how people are taking their shots at the JUCO players on Marquette's team, who have never had a history of any legal problems (the 1 who did didn't even make it to Marquette's campus), I think it's a pretty good way to put things into perspective.  Unless Booker Stanley didn't go to UW@Madison...then I guess I'm just confused... ::)

You aren't holier than anybody over there at UW@Madison, and your sh!t does stink, too.

What are the numbers, Chicos?  46 or so NCAA infractions by UW@Madison, compared to 0 for Marquette?

GGGG

wades...why do you get so worked up ini a lather over what they are saying on the UW boards?  Do you think your rants over here are going to change anyone's minds?

BTW, I know a number of UW fans who certainly do wish that they had Blue in their backcourt instead of Gasser.  The two are not comperable.

wadesworld

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 26, 2010, 01:13:33 PM
wades...why do you get so worked up ini a lather over what they are saying on the UW boards?  Do you think your rants over here are going to change anyone's minds?

BTW, I know a number of UW fans who certainly do wish that they had Blue in their backcourt instead of Gasser.  The two are not comperable.

Haha I'm just having fun with it.  I know for certain that I will not be changing anybody's minds over there.  I just think it's hilarious that so many people are freaking out over a 2 sentence answer made by a kid that they hate because he changed a decision that he made as a 15 year old.

avid1010

What this article is really about to MU fans is the fact that sharing an NBA arena with Bucks is a nice sell to a recruit.  Every little bit helps...

OnWisconsin

Quote from: wadesworld on December 26, 2010, 12:03:47 PM
What are the numbers, Chicos?  46 or so NCAA infractions by UW@Madison, compared to 0 for Marquette?

Great stat, very comparable. Ya know, because both schools have a football team.  ::)

Let's compare graduation rates between the basketball programs...

Lacrosse218

Quote from: OnWisconsin on January 01, 2011, 08:02:10 PM
Great stat, very comparable. Ya know, because both schools have a football team.  ::)

Let's compare graduation rates between the basketball programs...

Marquette's grad rate is 100% in their basketball program in the last 10 or something years.  I guarantee you Wisco isn't anywhere close to that.

MarquetteDano

#33
Quote from: Lacrosse218 on January 01, 2011, 08:13:49 PM
Marquette's grad rate is 100% in their basketball program in the last 10 or something years.  I guarantee you Wisco isn't anywhere close to that.

Well you can't blame the Badgers for it not being 100%... I mean how can you let guys continue on at school when they steal other students property?

warriors4ever32

Quote from: Lacrosse218 on January 01, 2011, 08:13:49 PM
Marquette's grad rate is 100% in their basketball program in the last 10 or something years.  I guarantee you Wisco isn't anywhere close to that.

huh????? what about dwade?? no way that stat can be correct

tower912

Dwade does not have a degree from MU.   Wiscy fans still do not want to compare graduation rates, though. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Skatastrophy

This is the 2010 release of the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports on graduation rates for Men's Basketball programs in the NCAA tournament.

http://www.tidesport.org/Grad%20Rates/2010_Mens_Bball_PR.pdf

MU has a 100% graduation rate the past 4 years (2004‐05, 2005‐06, 2006‐07, and 2007‐08 academic year).

UW-Madison graduates 78% of their basketball student-athletes.  100% of their white players and 60% of their black players.


ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 01, 2011, 08:37:38 PM
This is the 2010 release of the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports on graduation rates for Men's Basketball programs in the NCAA tournament.

http://www.tidesport.org/Grad%20Rates/2010_Mens_Bball_PR.pdf

MU has a 100% graduation rate the past 4 years (2004‐05, 2005‐06, 2006‐07, and 2007‐08 academic year).

UW-Madison graduates 78% of their basketball student-athletes.  100% of their white players and 60% of their black players.



Don't you know that's because our academics are so easy and it's impossible not to be eligible at MU?


-Sincerely, UW-madison Badger fan

National Champs

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 01, 2011, 08:41:04 PM

Don't you know that's because our academics are so easy and it's impossible not to be eligible at MU?


-Sincerely, UW-madison Badger fan

No way a badger fan would say their academics are easy.
We Are Elite

brewcity77

Quote from: National Champs on January 01, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
No way a badger fan would say their academics are easy.

Pretty sure that's not was Chicos was saying.

Ron Paul

Here's to hoping Van has a good enough season to have to consider it

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: National Champs on January 01, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
No way a badger fan would say their academics are easy.


They claim our academics are easy and our players are shuffled through the system where it's impossible for them to fail

Chicago_inferiority_complexes

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 02, 2011, 01:30:30 PM

They claim our academics are easy and our players are shuffled through the system where it's impossible for them to fail

Which is absurd because there probably isn't a single joke major at Marquette (though some come close), whereas at UW-Madison et al. there are entire colleges that qualify as a joke and consist almost entirely of student athletes.

Coleman

Quote from: warrior07 on January 02, 2011, 02:01:29 PM
Which is absurd because there probably isn't a single joke major at Marquette (though some come close), whereas at UW-Madison et al. there are entire colleges that qualify as a joke and consist almost entirely of student athletes.

Correct. We also do not have Phys. Ed. classes such as bowling (Maymon) or badminton, which are found at basically every big state school. Sure, we have a few less difficult classes/majors (Communication Studies maybe), but those are actual legit majors that do prepare you for a job and have non-athlete students in them.

warthog-driver

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 25, 2010, 11:24:26 AM
All you prepared dudes still carry a condom in your wallet?

Air Force figured out that putting condoms in a pilot's survival kit was essential to...survival? Not sure about you but if I get shot down in eastern Afghanistan getting laid isn't really at the top of my list. Not sure how I would justify that with the wife, either...

"But, baby, please, it was a matter of survival!"

OnWisconsin

Quote from: Lacrosse218 on January 01, 2011, 08:13:49 PM
Marquette's grad rate is 100% in their basketball program in the last 10 or something years.  I guarantee you Wisco isn't anywhere close to that.

How quickly you forget your busload of transfers

MUfan12

Quote from: OnWisconsin on January 02, 2011, 10:55:43 PM
How quickly you forget your busload of transfers

And in order for them to be given a release, they have to be in good academic standing.

Next.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: OnWisconsin on January 02, 2011, 10:55:43 PM
How quickly you forget your busload of transfers

How quickly you don't understand how the NCAA calculates graduation rates.  Keep trying, pretend it's a 2 point conversion and the game is on the line....you might just get one.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 02, 2011, 11:35:30 PM
How quickly you don't understand how the NCAA calculates graduation rates.  Keep trying, pretend it's a 2 point conversion and the game is on the line....you might just get one.

Boom! Roasted!

tower912

IIRC, the only player in the last decade to be academically ineligible was Blackledge.   And, moreover, IIRC, he was eligible by NCAA standards, but not by Crean's.   Buzz makes the whole team run if there is an unexused absence from a single class by a single player.   He requires his players to sit in front and talk to the prof every class.     With all of that said, it is still possible to skate through and stay academically eligible with a 2.0, just as it is possible to graduate from college with a 2.0.   But keep trying buckyboy.    Knock knock.   Who's there?   Owen.  Owen who?   Owen 5 on New Years day.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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