FULCE NOT DONE

[mu_hilltopper]

From Rosiak:

Breaking: #mubb Joe Fulce severe bone contusion in left knee. NOT career-ending, as had been feared. Doubtful for UW on Saturday.

[brewcity77]

Huzzah! Awesome news 

[warriors1991]

That's remarkable. Get well soon, Joe, we're gonna need you for the BEast!

[Slim]

Is this directly connected to his previous injury or is this coincidence? We need him back as soon as it is safe.

[Dr. Blackheart]

The Rasputin of MU hoops.  We need you, Joe!  Get well

[94Warrior]

Very happy to hear that.  

I really don't know why people jump to conclusions.  

[chapman]

Good news.  Hopefully he can make it back soon, we'll need him.  Already have one loss that would have been a win with a healthy Fulce.

[NCAARules]

Thank goodness. Heal up Joe! We need you.

[reinko]

Very happy to hear that.  

I really don't know why people jump to conclusions.  

Did you watch last night?

[Clam Crowder]

Seeing a guy screaming on the ground leads people to fear the worst...

[NCAARules]

It was also pseudo-reported by someone on twitter. (not going to mention who because I dont think they deserve the extra publicity)

I'm pretty pissed that it took off as news when it was rumor.

Even more pissed that I fell into believing it.

Would love to hear that persons explanation of how they got it so wrong when they reported it as fact.

[ToddRosiakSays]

Fulce, MU dodge a bullet
               



An examination of Joe Fulce's left knee on Wednesday revealed a severe bone contusion, an injury that is not considered to be career-ending, as had initially been feared.

               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/111564429.html
               

[94Warrior]

Did you watch last night?

Yes, and I have no doubt it was EXTREMELY painful.  I have had 4 knee surgeries myself.  2 of which were reconstructive.  I have felt his pain.

It was clear to me there was no twisting or collapse of the knee when I saw it, but 9 out of 10 of the people on here claimed his season was over.  That reaction makes no sense to me, but whatever.

I am just glad Joe is ok.

[Ari Gold]

It was also pseudo-reported by someone on twitter. (not going to mention who because I dont think they deserve the extra publicity)

I'm pretty pissed that it took off as news when it was rumor.

Even more pissed that I fell into believing it.

Would love to hear that persons explanation of how they got it so wrong when they reported it as fact.

Because Buzz said "His knee was completely shot" that got reported everywhere people read about MU basketball... not Just Twitter

[NCAARules]

Because Buzz said "His knee was completely shot" that got reported everywhere people read about MU basketball... not Just Twitter

No - I saw that too originally. This tweet was sometime this morning and listed a specific injury, not just "completely shot".

[reinko]

No - I saw that too originally. This tweet was sometime this morning and listed a specific injury, not just "completely shot".

Who tweeted what? 

[94Warrior]

Because Buzz said "His knee was completely shot" that got reported everywhere people read about MU basketball... not Just Twitter

Buzz said his knee was completely shot BEFORE the injury.  Buzz is very emotional, and I love him for that, so I didn't read much into his reaction after the game. 

As for Twitter, I don't put much stock in the opinion of a bunch of people that have never met Joe, let alone diagnosed his knee.

[chren21]

Well I was at the game even with the baseline across from visitors bench about 17 rows up.  Right in front of where it happened.  If you were there I believe you would have thought his season was over.  It was absolutely terrible to watch.  Then on the drive back to Chicago listening to Buzz break down on the postgame and describe it I was 99% sure he was done.

Thank god I may be wrong.

[NCAARules]

Who tweeted what? 

 @MUWarriorBBall: #mubb Joe Fulce has a dislocated knee cap & said he is most likely done for the season, but not necessarily.

The first time I saw it, the originating handle had been omitted. Obviously, if I saw Warrior in the handle, I would know it was unofficial.

My lesson learned.

[Rollout-the-Barrel]

Bone bruise is great news. Just shows how much pain he was already in. Tough dude.

[ChicosBailBonds]

OK, I know this will be construed as a negative against Buzz.  It's not meant to be.  This is the second or third time that Buzz has come into a post game press conference to claim an calamitous injury that turned out not to be.  I'm sure the psyche is to think "Oh my God, he's done", which I get.  It's part of wearing his emotions on his sleeve, part of his makeup.  On some of these I think I'd rather have a "we'll wait until tomorrow to see what's up".

At any rate, bash away.  It truly isn't meant to be a bash at all, just an opinion that he might want to play the injury thing a bit closer to the vest.


Thrilled to hear Mr. Fulce will be back.  Kid has worked too hard to go out the way many of us thought he might have based on the injury and the words from the press conference last night.

[4everwarriors]

You guys are always flying off at the handle

[NCMUFan]

Wait there's more to come?

[ATL MU Warrior]

OK, I know this will be construed as a negative against Buzz.  It's not meant to be.  This is the second or third time that Buzz has come into a post game press conference to claim an calamitous injury that turned out not to be.  I'm sure the psyche is to think "Oh my God, he's done", which I get.  It's part of wearing his emotions on his sleeve, part of his makeup.  On some of these I think I'd rather have a "we'll wait until tomorrow to see what's up".

At any rate, bash away.  It truly isn't meant to be a bash at all, just an opinion that he might want to play the injury thing a bit closer to the vest.

Thrilled to hear Mr. Fulce will be back.  Kid has worked too hard to go out the way many of us thought he might have based on the injury and the words from the press conference last night.

Not bashing, but I think you may have mis-interpreted what Buzz said, as has been stated previously in this thread or another.  The way I interpreted the quote was that Buzz said his Fulce's knee was totally shot PRIOR to the latest injury, not as the result of the latest injury.  Of course, I may be intrepreting it wrong too.  

EDIIT:  This is the other statement I was referring to:

For the record, I beleive the context of Buzz's quote that his knee was shot was referring to the status of his knee *before* the collision.  So is it "more shot" now?  We don't know yet.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/111505879.html

[marquette99]

Fantastic news!

[ChicosBailBonds]

Not bashing, but I think you may have mis-interpreted what Buzz said, as has been stated previously in this thread or another.  The way I interpreted the quote was that Buzz said his Fulce's knee was totally shot PRIOR to the latest injury, not as the result of the latest injury.  Of course, I may be intrepreting it wrong too. 

Could be, didn't think of it like that.  Definitely could see that being the case.  I thought he was saying it in context of the latest injury but your interpretation certainly could be right as well.

[jaybilaswho?]

@MUWarriorBBall: #mubb Joe Fulce has a dislocated knee cap & said he is most likely done for the season, but not necessarily.

Just an example of why Twitter is not a great source to report from. Regardless, GREAT news! Get well soon Joe. Your senior season is waiting for you... Go get it.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Just an example of why Twitter is not a great source to report from. Regardless, GREAT news! Get well soon Joe. Your senior season is waiting for you... Go get it.

You mean in terms of Buzz's comments? I got them from the article last night.

Coach Buzz Williams

On whether Joe Fulce's injury occurred when he appeared to bang knees with an opposing player: "No. He's got a shot knee; it's been shot. I would say it's completely shot. That's all I know."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/111505879.html

[cheebs09]

Someone posted earlier today that Fulce had a dislocated knee and was probably out for the year. I believe the twitter name was MU_BBALL or something like that which I think is pretty close to a Marquette official's twitter.

[martyconlonontherun]

I don't think it's over reacting to think someone was done for the year when it comes to knees. Especially for a guy with bad knees and was screaming on the floor. It was a safe assumption at the time. Everyone hear was classy so don't see the big deal?

[jaybilaswho?]

Chico- no. I meant in regard to the tweet about the dislocated knee by MUbballWarrior or whatever the tweet handle was. Will quote it tomorrow when I get in front of a computer. Can't quote on my BlackBerry.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Ah, ok...thanks

[rugbydrummer]

Ahem.

No disrespect to Coach Buzz, but i personally usually wait to hear what the radiologists/orthopods say before rendering my final judgment.  I personally was more worried about an ACL rupture given how my friend reported JF pivoting on his foot or w/e.  At any rate, the initially reported patellar dislocation was still, to me, not a season-ending injury by any stretch... but that's what you get for rumors and quick-Tweeters.

Just sayin' . . .

RICE that knee up, Joe! we will need your energy for the BEAST season!

[Ari Gold]

@MUWarriorBBall: #mubb Joe Fulce has a dislocated knee cap & said he is most likely done for the season, but not necessarily.

The first time I saw it, the originating handle had been omitted. Obviously, if I saw Warrior in the handle, I would know it was unofficial.

My lesson learned.

Note Profile of said tweeter: a sports writer for The Warrior(Marquette's Independent Newspaper), will be providing M.U. men's basketball news/analysis all season long.

Kid will do anything to get the paper publicity and a RT from Rosiak and the JS

Remember when the warrior was reporting that Bobby Knight was going to come out of retirement to coach MU?

[mileskishnish72]

Sounds like a knee with underlying problems. Great to hear that the recent injury is not "career ending" but a "severe bone contusion" won't go away quickly. The season is short, the healing time is long. Here's hoping the kid comes along quickly enough to get some time on the court and be rewarded for all his hard work.

[jficke13]

Just an example of why Twitter is not a great source to report from. Regardless, GREAT news! Get well soon Joe. Your senior season is waiting for you... Go get it.

"not a great source to report from" ?? Twitter is a freaking terrible source. The moment that the New York Times (and all "reputable" serious media) and ESPN started sourcing stories exclusively off of twitter was the moment they should have been wholeheartedly ignored as being no better than the tabloids.

[Jumping Jesuit]

Joe is the Ronaldo of NCAA basketball. Hopefully, he can bounce back like R9 did.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

The Rasputin of MU hoops.

I love this.

Great news...Joe is one of my favorites.

[akmarq]

A blurb about this on the frontpage of ESPN CBB

Also mentions the Buycks is now probable for the Bucky game

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5900673

(The story shows up on the CBB page but then redirects to the MLB section. Nice job ESPN)

[jaybilaswho?]

A blurb about this on the frontpage of ESPN CBB

Also mentions the Buycks is now probable for the Bucky game

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5900673

(The story shows up on the CBB page but then redirects to the MLB section. Nice job ESPN)

MILWAUKEE -- Marquette senior forward Joseph Fulce has been diagnosed with a severe bone contusion after injuring his left knee Tuesday night, but the school hasn't ruled out his eventual return to the court.

Fulce was taken to the hospital after falling to the court in obvious pain during the second half of the Golden Eagles' victory over Texas A&M-Corpus Christi on Tuesday night. Fulce had problems with the same knee earlier in the season.

Coach Buzz Williams said after the game that he feared the worst.

"He's got a shot knee," Williams said. "It's been shot. I would say it's completely shot. That's all I know."

Marquette forward Jae Crowder said it was difficult to listen to Fulce scream in pain as the crowd fell silent.

"I knew it was the same knee that he just came back from," Crowder said. "I knew it was serious. Then the screaming that I heard and everybody else heard really shut me down."

The school says Fulce is doubtful for Saturday's game against Wisconsin, and his future availability will be based on his response to treatment.

Senior guard Dwight Buycks, who missed Tuesday's game with a sprained ankle, is probable for Saturday's game.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[martyconlonontherun]

Turns out it could still be season ending. We'll see December 26.

[Dawson Rental]

Is this directly connected to his previous injury or is this coincidence? We need him back as soon as it is safe.

A bone contusion results from a hit on the knee, so most likely he did have his knee collide with a Texas A& M CC player's knee as was reported after the game.

[BrewCity83]

Turns out it could still be season ending. We'll see December 26.

What's special about that date?

[NumenFlumenque]

Joe/MU considering redshirt:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5904043

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Why the jan 8th date?  Did the 30% rule change?

[martyconlonontherun]

What's special about that date?

Saw it on twitter that buzz mentioned that date. Though the article below says the deadline is after Jan 8's game. Bet Buzz just used Christmas as a benchmark time frame?

[Boone]

May be cold to post, but I'd prefer we not redshirt someone and tie up a scholarship for another year on someone who's knee is "shot." Too risky.

[79Warrior]

May be cold to post, but I'd prefer we not redshirt someone and tie up a scholarship for another year on someone who's knee is "shot." Too risky.

sure seems like Buzz thinks his career is over. At this point, Buzz probably does not want Joe hobbled for life.

[rocky_warrior]

May be cold to post, but I'd prefer we not redshirt someone and tie up a scholarship for another year on someone who's knee is "shot." Too risky.

Well, IMO, the redshirt is just giving him the option to play next year.  He may finish all his classes this year, and decide that the knee hurts too much to play next year.  Or Buzz may convince him that his days are done.  The redshirt doesn't force us to use  a scholarship on him next year, but it certainly would allow us to use  scholarship on him next year if the stars were to align.

[chapman]

A healthy Joe Fulce is better for next year's roster than anyone else we could bring in, but if there's a 10% chance he makes it through the season I'd rather take him for a game or two down the stretch this year.

[BME to MD]

Microfracture surgery in high school is very extreme.  Joe is one tough guy but his knee will never be truly healthy.

[Boone]

I doubt Joe will ever be healthy again.