MU Grad Unemployment?

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

I think I heard of him when he was hired, which was after I was back home still searching, but haven't met him or anything.

I don't remember being impressed with his background, but I am glad he sounds like an upgrade to Stankowski.

[4everwarriors]

The business school does have someone now, Daniel Ortega.  Met him this summer, he's a "real world" guy.  180 degree change from the previous blowhard, Marq Stankowski.  

Didn't realize those jobs delivering bottled water were so difficult to get. Could always augment with a summer gig selling beer at Miller Park.

[drewm88]

Graduated in May. Almost my entire extended circle from MU is set in either a job, "volunteer" position, or grad school. Also, I think almost all of those people that chose grad school did so freely, rather than resort to it as a Plan B. I definitely can't say the same for my non-MU circle.

[mu_hilltopper]

Graduated in May. Almost my entire extended circle from MU is set in either a job, "volunteer" position, or grad school. Also, I think almost all of those people that chose grad school did so freely, rather than resort to it as a Plan B. I definitely can't say the same for my non-MU circle.

Right .. but I think the number to look at is those who are employed (not underemployed, like an Accounting major working as a check-out at Walmart) and not 'volunteers' nor 'interns'. 

Real, career jobs.

The grad school people, certainly, some went because that was their passion.  They aren't looking for work, so would be removed from the denominator of the equation.

[drewm88]

Right .. but I think the number to look at is those who are employed (not underemployed, like an Accounting major working as a check-out at Walmart) and not 'volunteers' nor 'interns'.  

Real, career jobs.

The grad school people, certainly, some went because that was their passion.  They aren't looking for work, so would be removed from the denominator of the equation.

Sorry, I should have clarified. The ones who are in volunteer positions generally also chose them freely, just like the grad school people. I'd say about 1/3 of my friends from MU are in career jobs, and there are only a few that wanted to get career jobs but had to take something else instead.

So overall with my circle of friends, the vast majority of people were able to find whatever it was they were looking for.

[muwarrior87]

Graduated in May '09 and spent a long time looking for anything remotely close. I had been working seasonally for a road construction company doing quality control/office help up until this past week when laid off for the remainder of the year without much knowledge as to if/when I'd hear about a possible full time career position with the company.  So I'm back out looking for Construction Management or Civil Engineering positions. This week will be filled with door to door resume drop offs and position inquiries.

[Golden Avalanche]

Maybe the trench coat and dark sunglasses were not the best choice that day??  just kidding, but i feel like we need to know the circumstances of this resume drop-off to better appreciate why an HR lady would call security for you to walk out??

I agree the trench coat was a bad choice that day.....haaaa.

I just think she was spooked. Mid-20s, relatively smaller office, perhaps new to the position within the last year, etc. At her age, and with the way things are done electronically today, I don't think she understood that showing up at an office for an open position was the norm until around 10 years ago.

My guess is she'd never seen a candidate in person unless she called them in for an interview. Most of the HR people I know don't ever see people. She probably just had no idea what to do figuring if I got by the front desk I must be some sort of psycho. 

[Aughnanure]

Call, show up in person, mailing out 100's of resumes is as about pointless as it gets.

Usually you need to show your employer that you are motivated.

Think about it this way.  How many resumes do you think HR at a company gets every day?  10?  20?

How many phone calls do they get from people to SEE if they have jobs available every day?  Maybe 1.

How many stop ins inquiring about jobs?  even less.

Half the trick to finding a job is getting yourself in the door.

When did you graduate? Just curious, because I know of most employers in the communications field HATE that (calling, showing up). People dont operate the same way. I moved out to DC to get a job (May 09 grad), but not everyone can do that and make it (i.e. you will not get an interview in Philadelphia if your resume says you live in St. Louis)...and the Midwest is doing terrible right now in terms of job opportunities.

I agree that just posting your resume at CareerBuilder.com is not going to work and you will only get calls from people wanting you to go into sales. But you are making it sound too simplistic. I had to get connected on certain big DC listservs, pay monthly for specific DC and government job listings, check industry specific east-coast listings daily, look on Craiglist 3x a day and most (80% at least) of the job postings were anonymous, meaning you had no idea where the company was or what its name was.

[PBRme]

Any Recent Grad or undergrad with ability to use Pro-E and looking for full or PT send me a PM

Edit:  I guess legally I can't legally word it that way, replace recent grad or undergrad with anybody

[mugrad99]

The business school does have someone now, Daniel Ortega.  Met him this summer, he's a "real world" guy.  180 degree change from the previous blowhard, Marq Stankowski. 

The President of Nicaragua?

[Hards Alumni]

When did you graduate? Just curious, because I know of most employers in the communications field HATE that (calling, showing up). People dont operate the same way. I moved out to DC to get a job (May 09 grad), but not everyone can do that and make it (i.e. you will not get an interview in Philadelphia if your resume says you live in St. Louis)...and the Midwest is doing terrible right now in terms of job opportunities.

I agree that just posting your resume at CareerBuilder.com is not going to work and you will only get calls from people wanting you to go into sales. But you are making it sound too simplistic. I had to get connected on certain big DC listservs, pay monthly for specific DC and government job listings, check industry specific east-coast listings daily, look on Craiglist 3x a day and most (80% at least) of the job postings were anonymous, meaning you had no idea where the company was or what its name was.

I graduated in 2004.  I found work in less than 3 months in a pretty bad market as well, with a Biomed sci degree in the Milwaukee area... which is near impossible.  After leaving that job, then law school I moved to the Madison area  (2006) and found a job in 2 weeks.  I applied, and then called the next day, and I was hired that day.

Obviously, this will vary from major to major, but when you picked communications, you had to realize the competition for jobs would be high based simply on the amount of CoC grads every year.  I'm just tired of people graduating and expecting a job without looking or actually trying.  The internet is a fabulous tool, but it shouldn't be the only thing people use to find a job... and thats the problem.

As for HR people HATING when people just show up; too effing bad.  Its part of their job, and if they really don't like it, all they need to do is say that when the person shows up.

[Wareagle]

Network your butt off (and form genuine relationships).  It's the most fool-proof method I've found.

[zwangmedico]

Going on with part time jobs but now getting bored...would love to do something new!!!