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NotAnAlum

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 11, 2010, 02:13:31 PM
Vander Blue makes Wisconsin Nervous cause he is 4.5 stars!!
Uthofff should make Marquette fans nervous cause he is a 4 star!!!

If I was Wisconsin I'd be nervous about the NAACP finding a 2010 basketball team picture and slapping them with an affirmative action law suit

PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on November 11, 2010, 11:26:17 AM
Xavier is landing 4-5 star recruits regularly!  XAVIER!!!!!  Freaking Xavier.....

I'd trade Xavier's recent history for ours in a second.

That said...I love our recruts. I also love our freshman...particularly Reggie Smith, who i don't believe was any higher than a 3 star. How many stars was Butler out of high school? DJO? Buzz knows what he's doing.

4everwarriors

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Marquette84

Quote from: bma725 on November 11, 2010, 02:16:42 PM
You might want to look at who has been winning the Big East title in recent years, because you don't need anywhere near that amount of talent to do it.  That sort of talent would give you between 8-12 Top 75 kids on a team, a level of talent that is simply unheard of in this conference.  Only once in the last 5 years has the conference champ or tournament champ reached even the low end of those numbers.  

Conference Champ
2010:  Syracuse - 4 Top 75 players
2009:  Louisville - 6 Top 75 players
2008:  Georgetown - 4 Top 75 Players
2007:  Georgetown - 2 Top 75 Players
2006:  UConn - 8 Top 75 Players

BET Champ
2010:  West Virginia - 2 Top 75 Players
2009:  Louisville - 6 Top 75 Players
2008:  Pitt - 3 Top 75 Players
2007:  Georgetown - 2 Top 75 Players
2006:  Syracuse - 6 Top 75 Players

I think we need to consider attrition in this analysis.  

Syracuse may have only had 4 consensus top 75 players still on the roster in 2010, but among the four HS recruiting classes that fed last years team--2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009--they recruited at least eight such players:

2006: 23 Harris, 44 Mike Jones,
2007: 8 Green, 20 Flynn, 48 Jardine, 56 Jackson
2008: 46 Mookie Jones, 56 Joesph
2009: none

Also consider those players who weren't consensus top 75. DaShonte Riley was top 75 in three different rankings and Rivals had Wesley Johnson ranked 47th out of HS.

That's ten top 75 players recruited over the four years leading up to the 2010 championship season--if one includes those who were top 75 in at least one service.

Obviously some (Harris, Mike Jones, Green and Flynn) were no longer on the team by 2010.  

However I think that was the point--you can't count on top 75 players staying for all four seasons.  Some will bust.  Some will leave early for the NBA. If you sign 2 or 3 a year, you'll have 4 on the team at any one time, which seems to be about the right number for a Big East championship.


Mr. Nielsen

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Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 11, 2010, 03:43:28 PM
I'd trade Xavier's recent history for ours in a second.

That said...I love our recruts. I also love our freshman...particularly Reggie Smith, who i don't believe was any higher than a 3 star. How many stars was Butler out of high school? DJO? Buzz knows what he's doing.

IIRC, Butler was a 1 star and DJO was a 2 star.

willie warrior

Quote from: Marquette84 on November 11, 2010, 04:48:32 PM
I think we need to consider attrition in this analysis.  

Syracuse may have only had 4 consensus top 75 players still on the roster in 2010, but among the four HS recruiting classes that fed last years team--2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009--they recruited at least eight such players:

2006: 23 Harris, 44 Mike Jones,
2007: 8 Green, 20 Flynn, 48 Jardine, 56 Jackson
2008: 46 Mookie Jones, 56 Joesph
2009: none

Also consider those players who weren't consensus top 75. DaShonte Riley was top 75 in three different rankings and Rivals had Wesley Johnson ranked 47th out of HS.

That's ten top 75 players recruited over the four years leading up to the 2010 championship season--if one includes those who were top 75 in at least one service.

Obviously some (Harris, Mike Jones, Green and Flynn) were no longer on the team by 2010.  

However I think that was the point--you can't count on top 75 players staying for all four seasons.  Some will bust.  Some will leave early for the NBA. If you sign 2 or 3 a year, you'll have 4 on the team at any one time, which seems to be about the right number for a Big East championship.


thanks for making my point MU84. But never let facts get in the way of a good argument.
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KenoshaWarrior

Saw both videos of Juan Anderson and Uthoff together...And somehow ESPN got their rankings of those two players completely wrong!!!  Anderson is fast quick and played against 10 times better competition than Uthoff got. 

I think that Uthoff probably got the "White kid from the country" bump that Brian Butch got.



The Man in Gold

Quote from: BrewCity on November 11, 2010, 02:27:12 PM
He shall henceforth be known as ULTHOOF.

I don't know, the potential for Hoff jokes is just so tempting.
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