Recruiting

[willie warrior]

Getting concerned about our recruiting success for this year.

A quick look at ESPN's top 100 shows only about 20 of the top 100 left, and it looks like we are still in on 3 (Shaw, Faust and Hood)

Meanwhile several of the other BEast competitors have already made major inroads in that top 100:
Syracuse 3
Louisville 3
Villanova 3
St. John's 4
Depaul 1
Cinncy 1
Rutgers 1
Gtown 1

MU has none. Hell we need to get all 3 we are in on, just to keep up with the Joneses. In Buzz I trust does not help in this numbers game.

We need results.

[Coleman]

MU has none. Hell we need to get all 3 we are in on, just to keep up with the Joneses. In Buzz I trust does not help in this numbers game.

I thought Juan Anderson was top 100.

I share your concern, but Buzz to this point has done relatively well with recruiting, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Also, Buzz has also shown he can work in unconventional ways (top JUCO players, for example) and still maintain success.

[kmwtrucks]

Juan is a top 100 when you combine the rankings which is probably more accurate than any one service. If we could get one of the names you mentioned I would be very happy.  That would give us 2 top 100's in a 3 man class.

[Marquette65]

Sorry W. Warrior, but none of those 3 are headed to MU

[pillardean]

Getting concerned about our recruiting success for this year.

A quick look at ESPN's top 100 shows only about 20 of the top 100 left, and it looks like we are still in on 3 (Shaw, Faust and Hood)

Meanwhile several of the other BEast competitors have already made major inroads in that top 100:
Syracuse 3
Louisville 3
Villanova 3
St. John's 4
Depaul 1
Cinncy 1
Rutgers 1
Gtown 1

MU has none. Hell we need to get all 3 we are in on, just to keep up with the Joneses. In Buzz I trust does not help in this numbers game.

We need results.

Jamil Wilson is something.

[GOMU1104]

Juan Anderson is an RSCI (consensus) Top 100 player. He currently sits at #95

Also, if it makes you feel better, consider Jamil Wilson (RSCI #40) a part of next year's class.

Maybe this will make you feel better too. The 2011-12 will have 6 (maybe more) Top 100 players.

In other words...relax.

[NersEllenson]

Getting concerned about our recruiting success for this year.

A quick look at ESPN's top 100 shows only about 20 of the top 100 left, and it looks like we are still in on 3 (Shaw, Faust and Hood)

Meanwhile several of the other BEast competitors have already made major inroads in that top 100:
Syracuse 3
Louisville 3
Villanova 3
St. John's 4
Depaul 1
Cinncy 1
Rutgers 1
Gtown 1

MU has none. Hell we need to get all 3 we are in on, just to keep up with the Joneses. In Buzz I trust does not help in this numbers game.

We need results.

Hey Willie - -  Beat it.  Your act is tired and old.  That said...why do you feel as though our roster next year - which will feature 7 Top 100 guys - won't be sufficient?  Or when, in the history of Marquette basketball have we  ever had 7 Top 100 guys on the roster simultaneously?

[bma725]

Or when, in the history of Marquette basketball have we  ever had 7 Top 100 guys on the roster simultaneously?

You might want to go brush up on your history and learn how great the recruiting actually was under Al and Hank. 

[Nukem2]

You might want to go brush up on your history and learn how great the recruiting actually was under Al and Hank. 

Agreed, but a lot of younger posters' memory banks don't go back too far.  The difference though is that MU's teams were not very deep under Al after the 6th or 7th man.  Of course, Al had a few of what we now know as "burger boys" among those 6 or 7...   Ah, those were the days!

[Marquette65]

bma, is right on the money.  Al and Hank consistently got Top 10 kids( not sure there was a top 100 list back then).  Al's theory was to get 1 and1/2 guys every year to build his team.  That way he had no problem w/ having ( saying) his seniors were the " stars" of his teams.

[tower912]

Here is the problem:   DJO, Blue, Cadougan, Smith, Wilson, Jones, Williams, Crowder, Otule, Gardner, (maybe Singleton).   We have landed a top 100 wing with Juan.    Other than an immediate impact big, how many top ranked HS seniors are going to look at that bunch and think they will get immediate PT?   I predict Buzz lands a JUCO big in the spring, and gives Singleton the last schollie.   

[MuMark]

Buzz will sign another high school player. He isn't going to want to have Anderson as the only guy in his class.

[GGGG]

You are correct MuMark.  We are still in on a number of HS guys and we still have the spring signing period to go.

[PBRme]

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=21787.0

This thread has already been done or are you channeling MarkCharles

[bilsu]

While I would like to sign more players, I do not see this as a reason to panic. First I believe it makes it easier to recruit next year. Two, we will actually have a scholarship available for spring to accept another transfer like Wilson. Every spring there seems to be few good players available. A lot of times it has to do with a coaching change. Three, it is not likely that the rotation will ever exceed 9 players. It will be hard for a recruit to break into our 9 man rotation next year. Besides that, until I see otherwise Buzz is more likely to use 7 or 8 players.

[APieperFan3]

While I would like to sign more players, I do not see this as a reason to panic. First I believe it makes it easier to recruit next year. Two, we will actually have a scholarship available for spring to accept another transfer like Wilson. Every spring there seems to be few good players available. A lot of times it has to do with a coaching change. Three, it is not likely that the rotation will ever exceed 9 players. It will be hard for a recruit to break into our 9 man rotation next year. Besides that, until I see otherwise Buzz is more likely to use 7 or 8 players.

I agree with 1 and 2.

However, we have played a 7.5 man rotation the past few years out of necessity.

This year - and hopfully years to come- I think we definately will have the talent (or switchability  ) to go 9+ like you suggested.

[Ready2Fly]

We missed on Snaer and ended up with DJO.  Who would you rather have had last year?

We signed a 2010 Rivals 5 star in Vander Blue 12 months ago, and a Prep Stars 5 star in Jamil Wilson less than 6 months ago.  They were both consensus top 50, along with Junior Cadougan.  

You're honestly worried?

Also, using just the ESPN top 100 to prove a point is beyond stupid.  Anderson is a consensus top 100, which means a lot more than being left off one list.

[thanooj]

Buzz will sign another high school player. He isn't going to want to have Anderson as the only guy in his class.

+1
He signs one more high school player minimum.  I think it will be a quality player, at least as good a Mr. Anderson.  Maybe even better.  I don't believe that the ship has sailed  on all of the guys we are in on.
The question then is what will buzz do with the last scholly.  I don't think he wants to go the juco route because he has kind of balanced the classes.  But with buzz you never know.  He might take a transfer?  I don't think singleton gets the last scholly either.
Is there any chance he banks the last scholarship?

[chren21]

Any word on Shaw's ACT this weekend?  If we get him we are set, then he could bank the last one or get another solid juco.

[GGGG]

Any word on Shaw's ACT this weekend?  If we get him we are set, then he could bank the last one or get another solid juco.

Preliminary multiple choice results are not available until November 9 at the earliest.

http://www.actstudent.org/scores/early/

[lab_warrior]

Ugh, another hysterical, screeching, "sky is falling" recruiting post?!  Thanks, I can set my watch again for THIS WEEK.

[MarkCharles]

Even I am going to disagree with Willie here. My concern was over a lack of quality bigs, which is something pretty much every MU fan is concerned about to some degree (many here just don't see it as as big of a problem as I do, which is fair)

But to say we don't have enough top100 recruits is kind of crazy considering the makeup of next year's roster, and is holding MU to a standard of recruiting that the program isn't ready to be held to yet.

[NersEllenson]

You might want to go brush up on your history and learn how great the recruiting actually was under Al and Hank. 

And the results under Al were pretty darn good too, right?  The best in program history.  Buzz is pushing right up against what the best collection of talent Al assembled was..but if you would educate those of us younger fans..can you give us the roster that featured more than 7 highly regarded (Top 100/Juco POY/1st team All Americans) players on the roster simultaneously?  My understanding is Al landed a fair amount of Top 10-25 talent..so some of the Elite, Elite talents..but not sure he landed depth of talent.

At the end of the day, this thread is ridiculous and that is the main point of my post.

[bilsu]

I agree with 1 and 2.

However, we have played a 7.5 man rotation the past few years out of necessity.

This year - and hopfully years to come- I think we definately will have the talent (or switchability  ) to go 9+ like you suggested.

I would like to play 9 or more players and Buzz talks that way. However, Buzz also says he will not play a player who turns the ball over. This will eliminate a lot of freshmen.

[willie warrior]

Even I am going to disagree with Willie here. My concern was over a lack of quality bigs, which is something pretty much every MU fan is concerned about to some degree (many here just don't see it as as big of a problem as I do, which is fair)

But to say we don't have enough top100 recruits is kind of crazy considering the makeup of next year's roster, and is holding MU to a standard of recruiting that the program isn't ready to be held to yet.

Read the post. Never said we don't have enough top 100 recruits on the roster. I compared the current commits of zero top 100 (based on ESPN) to what others are doing in BEAST notably Louisville, Villanova, syracuse etc., and that we need to get some to keep up with the Joneses.

Why must people pick apart/misinterpret whatever somebody says?