ESPN Top 25 Recruiting Rankings class of 2011...so much for Bo Ryan

[ChicosBailBonds]

So much for Bo Ryan can't recruit


http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/classrankings?classyear=2011&classmonth=9&rank=25&viewmore=yes&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2frecruiting%2fclassrankings%3fclassyear%3d2011%26classmonth%3d9%26rank%3d25%26viewmore%3dyes

[TheRock]

ESPN is always the best place to look for evaluating recruiting classes

[DiaperDandy]

That will change as the top recruits commit to the schools of their liking.  There are still plenty of topp 100 recruits that are undecided at this point.  It is to early to rate recruiting classes, unless we are talking about Kentucky, which is well on its way to being the number one class for 2011.

[cheebs09]

It also helps that they have four commitments thus far. A lot of people haven't committed yet.

[wadesworld]

So much for Bo Ryan can't recruit


http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/classrankings?classyear=2011&classmonth=9&rank=25&viewmore=yes&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2frecruiting%2fclassrankings%3fclassyear%3d2011%26classmonth%3d9%26rank%3d25%26viewmore%3dyes

0 top 100 recruits.  Count me impressed.

[NCMUFan]

7 Big East teams in top 25 at the time of the Poll.  I think that is the real news.

[ChicosBailBonds]

0 top 100 recruits.  Count me impressed.

I'll bet that despite that, they still finish in the top upper third of the Big Ten 90% of the time.  It works for them and works very well.

[wadesworld]

I'll bet that despite that, they still finish in the top upper third of the Big Ten 90% of the time.  It works for them and works very well.

Not disagreeing there.  I'm just pointing out the fact that they have the number 25 recruiting class of 2011 before many top 100 recruits have committed to schools doesn't mean that Bo can all of a sudden magically recruit.  He recruits the kids that work for his system and he coaches them up to be a good Big Televen team, but not NCAA Tournament team.  That has nothing to do with how talented his recruits are.

[4everwarriors]

The Badgers will continue their winning ways under Ryan. Have to admire what he's accomplished. Bo Ryan=legendary

[tower912]

Congrats to Bo on a fine class.  They all seem to be perfect for the swing.   Which means he will be successful in the B10-11-12 and flameout in the tourney.    None of the players appear to me to be game changers who can take over a game when the other, more athletic, Cornell of the world is beating the swing and the man to man.   

[MarkCharles]

I saw one of these ratings in the beginning of the summer (I think it was on Rivals), and The Badgers class was #14. Now as more and more guys are starting to sign, their class doesn't look so good in comparison. The only reason they were so highly rated is that they had 4 solid guys.

I don't mean to re-hash an old debate, but Bo certainly can recruit. He brought in a lot more top-100 guys than Crean did during those years, including two 5stars. Its just that his recent classes have only been solid, nothing more though.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I saw one of these ratings in the beginning of the summer (I think it was on Rivals), and The Badgers class was #14. Now as more and more guys are starting to sign, their class doesn't look so good in comparison. The only reason they were so highly rated is that they had 4 solid guys.

I don't mean to re-hash an old debate, but Bo certainly can recruit. He brought in a lot more top-100 guys than Crean did during those years, including two 5stars. Its just that his recent classes have only been solid, nothing more though.

He should have...he had a better program at the time, better facilities by a mile, inherited a Final Four team, better conference and is THE state school.  Absolutely zero reason with those conditions in play at that time that they shouldn't have built in advantages to get better players. 

[AZWarrior]

He's an effective coach.  But I prefer Buzz.....     

[willie warrior]

We should be asking the question: Where the hell is MU in these rankings?

[cheebs09]

We should be asking the question: Where the hell is MU in these rankings?

Waiting on targets that would vault us in the top 15 on these rankings. Just because we aren't in them now doesn't mean we won't be when it's all said and done. It's still early. Heck some of our best players are guys we didn't know about until they signed in the spring.

[GGGG]

We should be asking the question: Where the hell is MU in these rankings?

Well, since we have no one signed for 2011....   

[muball]

dont forget Jamil Wilson and Dave Singleton who has looked good. Buzz will add players and we will be solid.

[NersEllenson]

He should have...he had a better program at the time, better facilities by a mile, inherited a Final Four team, better conference and is THE state school.  Absolutely zero reason with those conditions in play at that time that they shouldn't have built in advantages to get better players. 

Having said this about Bo Ryan, what seems to be the problem for Tom Crean currently at Indiana?  Is it the lack of a Final Four since 2002?  I mean they aren't under any scholarship limitations, TV appearance limitations, nor are they restricted from post season tournament appearances as a result of the Sampson scandal.  Additionally they have a ton of playing time to offer, are widely considered a Top 5 all-time college basketball program.  What gives?

[4everwarriors]

Crean's an idiot.

[NersEllenson]

We should be asking the question: Where the hell is MU in these rankings?

Go visit 2010 and 2009 class rankings - and then go find me the last time Marquette was even listed in the Top 25 recruiting class rankings, much less in back to back years.  And now you want us to make 3 consecutive Top 25 recruiting class rankings?  Give it a rest.

[rocky_warrior]

And now you want us to make 3 consecutive Top 25 recruiting class rankings?  Give it a rest.

For the record, I want us to make 3 consecutive top 25's, but I'm not gonna' hold it against Buzz if we miss the cut this year.  Oddly, I think Buzz would think it's a disappointment, so maybe I should raise my standards.

[tower912]

We should be asking the question: Where the hell is MU in these rankings?

Shooting for the stars rather than signing the first four swingworthy players to say yes.      We may end up with a down class.    Assuming that what is already on campus is as good as we think/hope it is, exactly what is a dire need?

[NersEllenson]

For the record, I want us to make 3 consecutive top 25's, but I'm not gonna' hold it against Buzz if we miss the cut this year.  Oddly, I think Buzz would think it's a disappointment, so maybe I should raise my standards.

I agree with your point in its entirety.  Just take offense to good old Willie Warrior always trying to give Buzz a black eye.

[LA]

The Badgers will continue their winning ways under Ryan. Have to admire what he's accomplished. Bo Ryan=legendary

While I agree that Bo is a good coach, was that last part supposed to be teal? Since when does one elite 8 and two sweet sixteens make you legendary? Unless you are counting his D3 accomplishments that is a tough claim.

[4everwarriors]

While I agree that Bo is a good coach, was that last part supposed to be teal? Since when does one elite 8 and two sweet sixteens make you legendary? Unless you are counting his D3 accomplishments that is a tough claim.

Just having a little fun at Chicos expense.