Nick Faust....

[PGsHeroes32]

Does anyone know the chances that we can actually land this kid?? His stock is rising faster than anyones right now and was supposedly really impressive at LeBrons camp.


Boy would I love a 6'6" SG that can do just that and just about everything else.

[NersEllenson]

From what I recall he visited several weeks ago, and MU was thought to be in on him early..meaning being one of the first - if not THE first high-major program to offer him.  I'd imagine he is now sifting through all of his options...I'd say our only chance would be if he's the type of kid who values loyalty or...the "you were there from the beginning," angle.

[hoops12]

"'I'd say our only chance would be if he's the type of kid who values loyalty or...the "you were there from the beginning," angle."

Why? Marquette has an awful lot to offer. Great school, great program, and a great conference. Who cares who else is recruiting him? Why do some posters feel that when other "big time" schools get involved, that we don't have a chance? Hood listed us as one of his top four a few weeks back. He did that for a reason, he is interested and is considering Marquette.

Also, for what I have read, he is now closer to 6'8" than he is to 6'6". He is having a great summer, but Buzz and the staff will continue to work hard to get top talent. Keep the faith!

GO MU!

[hoops12]

Actually, Faust is more of a 6'5"/6'6" player. It is Rodney Hood that is nearly 6'8". Sorry, my bad! Both players would be wonderful recruits for Marquette!

[NersEllenson]

"'I'd say our only chance would be if he's the type of kid who values loyalty or...the "you were there from the beginning," angle."

Why? Marquette has an awful lot to offer. Great school, great program, and a great conference. Who cares who else is recruiting him? Why do some posters feel that when other "big time" schools get involved, that we don't have a chance? Hood listed us as one of his top four a few weeks back. He did that for a reason, he is interested and is considering Marquette.

Obviously all of us who post here would like top 20 recruits to come to MU (except a few Badger trolls and some occasional conference rival posters), but the reality is that in most cases we will lose out to Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA, and other signature programs...at least that is what our recent history had been under Tom Crean..we got down to a lot of top recruits Final 2 or 3, but ultimately kids decided to go elsewhere.  We are right in that next category.  Buzz is doing a great job, and I sure hope he can land  Faust, Dawsen or Hood - to me just gettin 1 of these 3 would be huge.

[CAINMUTINY]

The reality is these are 18 year old kids and beyond our training facilities, coaching staff  and conference we play in there is nothing else that we offer which is greater than the rest.  There are many other schools with better campuses, better weather and factors that are attractive to a young kid.

This is all before any third party dealings that might really influence a prospects decision to attend a university.  Marquette is doing pretty much all they can to attract the top talent and we will never be able to sell a kid on the university if he is more interested in palm trees, the big city lights or a program that should be a wholly owned subsidiary of ESPN.

[NCMUFan]

I haven't seen any palm tree in Kansas or Raleigh or Duraham or Kentucky.

[goodgreatgrand]

The reality is these are 18 year old kids and beyond our training facilities, coaching staff  and conference we play in there is nothing else that we offer which is greater than the rest.  There are many other schools with better campuses, better weather and factors that are attractive to a young kid.

This is all before any third party dealings that might really influence a prospects decision to attend a university.  Marquette is doing pretty much all they can to attract the top talent and we will never be able to sell a kid on the university if he is more interested in palm trees, the big city lights or a program that should be a wholly owned subsidiary of ESPN.

Izzo, Calhoun, Boeheim, Wright, Dixon and Matta do just fine recruiting kids to cold weather. No excuses. 

[NersEllenson]

I haven't seen any palm tree in Kansas or Raleigh or Duraham or Kentucky.

Good point, but I haven't seen many girls on MU's campus that look like those at UNC, Duke, Kentucky or even Kansas.    Nor has MU ever been a Top 5 program in NCAA history...A recent ranking of programs I saw (I think on ESPN or Yahoo), had us at 19...so from my perspective if we continue to get Top 20 rated recruiting classes - we are definitely fulfilling our potential from a recruiting perspective....and we can do that by landing guys in the 50-100 range consistently..but the Top 20 type players almost always go to the above schools..

[NersEllenson]

Izzo, Calhoun, Boeheim, Wright, Dixon and Matta do just fine recruiting kids to cold weather. No excuses. 

This topic was about landing Top 25 type of talent, and from your previous posts last week, you were pretty adamant that Boeheim doesn't land that much Top 50 talent, much less Top 25 talent.  So does Boeheim really do a great job recruiting Top 25 kids to cold weather?

[goodgreatgrand]

I clearly demonstrated the Boeheim went 2 years without a top 50 recruit. You said he gets top 50 talent "year-in, year-out."

BUT 2012 is setting up well for him. DeJaun Coleman, a top 5 talent and perhaps the best player in the class, is a local product and former h.s. teammate of Brandon Triche. Got to see him play here in nyc at an AAU tournament. He is a cleary an NBA product yet only a jr in h.s.

Take a look at the top 15 (or 25) in the class of 2012. A lot of cold weather schools on those lists, no?

[duanewade]

The weather is really a pretty lame and overhyped excuse and I doubt it ever has been a reason why we didn't get a recruit.

Football maybe because it's an outside sport but cold weather cities tend to have bigger crowds and more frantic fan bases as it's one of the main sources of local entertainment during winter. People in LA can go golf or surf in the winters so less of them are as into USC or UCLA basketball as they are in a place like Kentucky or Marquette. LA couldn't even keep a professional football team for this reason while Green Bay has a vibrant franchise inspite of being in the cold being and in an MSA the fraction of the size as LA.  Besides I like a cold night and being in a bar with live music and sipping a guiness...winter has it's virtues.  

Buzz will land some top 25 players in this class because Buzz is amazing an Marquette has a lot to sell.

[ATWizJr]

Good point, but I haven't seen many girls on MU's campus that look like those at UNC, Duke, Kentucky or even Kansas.    Nor has MU ever been a Top 5 program in NCAA history...A recent ranking of programs I saw (I think on ESPN or Yahoo), had us at 19...so from my perspective if we continue to get Top 20 rated recruiting classes - we are definitely fulfilling our potential from a recruiting perspective....and we can do that by landing guys in the 50-100 range consistently..but the Top 20 type players almost always go to the above schools..

Marquette was a top 5 program when McGuire retired.

[goodgreatgrand]

  Marquette was a top 5 program when McGuire retired.

Ners is the epitome of misinformation.

[NavinRJohnson]

Obviously all of us who post here would like top 20 recruits to come to MU (except a few Badger trolls and some occasional conference rival posters), but the reality is that in most cases we will lose out to Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA, and other signature programs...at least that is what our recent history had been under Tom Crean..we got down to a lot of top recruits Final 2 or 3, but ultimately kids decided to go elsewhere.  We are right in that next category.  Buzz is doing a great job, and I sure hope he can land  Faust, Dawsen or Hood - to me just gettin 1 of these 3 would be huge.

You are right that this has  been the history, but Tom Crean doesn't live here anymore, and I do get the sense that Buzz is going to break through on one or two of these guys in the not too distant future. He has unquestionably upgraded the recruiting in the short time he has been here, and I have no reason to doubt that he can take that a step further.

[NersEllenson]

Ners is the epitome of misinformation.

And you are a closet Syracuse fan that needs to come out of the closet...it's okay buddy, you can do it..I'm sure you will feel a lot better about yourself when stop being a poser.

[NersEllenson]

I clearly demonstrated the Boeheim went 2 years without a top 50 recruit. You said he gets top 50 talent "year-in, year-out."

BUT 2012 is setting up well for him. DeJaun Coleman, a top 5 talent and perhaps the best player in the class, is a local product and former h.s. teammate of Brandon Triche. Got to see him play here in nyc at an AAU tournament. He is a cleary an NBA product yet only a jr in h.s.

Take a look at the top 15 (or 25) in the class of 2012. A lot of cold weather schools on those lists, no?

Please point out where I argued cold weather was ever an issue with recruiting?  Don't mix my arguments with someone elses.  It was you who posted that Izzo, Boheim, etc..have no problem recruiting top talent to cold weather cities, yet u now have acknowledged that Boheim was unable to do so 2 years in a row?  Pretty inconsistent in your ongoing attempts to defend Syracuse - but hey, that's cool..just come out of the closet when you are ready. 

[g0lden3agle]

Please point out where I argued cold weather was ever an issue with recruiting?  Don't mix my arguments with someone elses.  It was you who posted that Izzo, Boheim, etc..have no problem recruiting top talent to cold weather cities, yet u now have acknowledged that Boheim was unable to do so 2 years in a row?  Pretty inconsistent in your ongoing attempts to defend Syracuse - but hey, that's cool..just come out of the closet when you are ready. 

I am so confused with who's arguing what now.... You say you never argued cold weather was an issue with recruiting, then the very next sentence you bring up cold weather?  Do you just argue whatever the other guy says?

[brewcity77]

Good point, but I haven't seen many girls on MU's campus that look like those at UNC, Duke, Kentucky or even Kansas.    Nor has MU ever been a Top 5 program in NCAA history...A recent ranking of programs I saw (I think on ESPN or Yahoo), had us at 19...so from my perspective if we continue to get Top 20 rated recruiting classes - we are definitely fulfilling our potential from a recruiting perspective....and we can do that by landing guys in the 50-100 range consistently..but the Top 20 type players almost always go to the above schools..

As pointed out, we were back in the McGuire days. I recently saw an interview with Al where he talked about Marquette having a run of 6 years or so where they were never outside of the top 10 AP rankings. Al had his pick of top recruits, and I think that held up a few years after he left. Throughout the 1970s Marquette was undoubtedly a top 5 program, right there with the likes of North Carolina, and just a bit behind UCLA (who was well ahead of everyone at the time).

[wadesworld]

I love these threads titled for a potential recruit that has 1 post in them about the recruit and the rest of the thread is just bickering back and forth between posters about something completely unrelated.

Does anybody have any information on Nick Faust and his recruitment or should I just stop reading any thread with a recruit's name in it and assume it's not about said recruit?

[Lennys Tap]

As pointed out, we were back in the McGuire days. I recently saw an interview with Al where he talked about Marquette having a run of 6 years or so where they were never outside of the top 10 AP rankings. Al had his pick of top recruits, and I think that held up a few years after he left. Throughout the 1970s Marquette was undoubtedly a top 5 program, right there with the likes of North Carolina, and just a bit behind UCLA (who was well ahead of everyone at the time).

In the 70's UCLA wasin a class by themselves. Marquette and NC were next - clearly above the rest of the pack.

[PGsHeroes32]

agreed, wadesworld.

[Canadian Dimes]

In the 70's UCLA wasin a class by themselves. Marquette and NC were next - clearly above the rest of the pack.

Disagree 1970-1974 yes on UCLA.....1970-1980  MU, IU , and UNC

[texaswarrior74]

Good point, but I haven't seen many girls on MU's campus that look like those at UNC, Duke, Kentucky or even Kansas.    .......

I will agree with the UNC, Kentucky or Kansas argument but you have obviously never been to Duke......even Duke students agree that their women leave a lot to be desired and head to Franklin St in Chapel Hill hoping to meet a Carolina girl......Duke is not so affectionately referred to as the University of New Jersey-Durham campus.....need I say more?

[Lennys Tap]

Disagree 1970-1974 yes on UCLA.....1970-1980  MU, IU , and UNC

In the 70's UCLA appeared in the NCAA tournament and advanced to the sweet sixteen every year. 7 final 4's. 5 national championships. IU made the tournament 4 times. 4 sweet 16's. 2 final 4's and 1 national championship. UCLA is head and shoulders above everyone and MU and UNC are well ahead of IU during the 70's.