Jay Bilas will get you guys going again

[CTWarrior]

From his chat yesterday:

Ken (VA)


Do you think Geoge Mason should bring back their old mascot, Gunston, over the new Patriot?

Jay Bilas  (4:42 PM)


I am not familiar with Gunston, but if Gunston is anything like the Warrior at Marquette, then YES, they should bring it back. Marquette will always be the Warriors to me. And, I loved the untucked unis worn by Bo Ellis, Jerome Whitehead and Bernard Toone under Al McGuire. They were great.

[NCMUFan]

The nickname is great, the stigma sucks.

[willie warrior]

From his chat yesterday:

Ken (VA)


Do you think Geoge Mason should bring back their old mascot, Gunston, over the new Patriot?

Jay Bilas  (4:42 PM)


I am not familiar with Gunston, but if Gunston is anything like the Warrior at Marquette, then YES, they should bring it back. Marquette will always be the Warriors to me. And, I loved the untucked unis worn by Bo Ellis, Jerome Whitehead and Bernard Toone under Al McGuire. They were great.

Those Unis were great. I recall that the Bumblebee unis were banned by the NCAA for their "hallucogenic" effect.

[TallTitan34]

The nickname is great, the stigma sucks.

The ironic thing is if they kept the Warrior name and simply changed the logo/mascot their would be far less Indian imagery than there is now.

[thanooj]

if only some wealthy alum would make an anonymous donation of 1 million plus on the condition of changing the name back to the WARRIORS and then many of the rest of wealthy alums would come through with sizeable donations to match the million on the same conditions.  Marquette University just couldn't say no to an offer like that.

[HoopsMalone]

if only some wealthy alum would make an anonymous donation of 1 million plus on the condition of changing the name back to the WARRIORS and then many of the rest of wealthy alums would come through with sizeable donations to match the million on the same conditions.  Marquette University just couldn't say no to an offer like that.

A few million is like dumping a bucket of water into the ocean for Marquette.  MU does not have the endowment of some of the other private schools in this country, but a few million is not exactly going to work as a bribe for something that would get these kinds of headlines.  I remember they said that it would cost a few million just to change Golden Eagle to Warriors around campus and in MU athletic buildings. 

[Hards Alumni]

A few million is like dumping a bucket of water into the ocean for Marquette.  MU does not have the endowment of some of the other private schools in this country, but a few million is not exactly going to work as a bribe for something that would get these kinds of headlines.  I remember they said that it would cost a few million just to change Golden Eagle to Warriors around campus and in MU athletic buildings. 

yup.

and at this point, I don't think they'd change back for any amount of money.

[MerrittsMustache]

I'm pretty sure thanooj was being sarcastic since something similar to his scenario played out a few years ago.

[79Warrior]

A few million is like dumping a bucket of water into the ocean for Marquette.  MU does not have the endowment of some of the other private schools in this country, but a few million is not exactly going to work as a bribe for something that would get these kinds of headlines.  I remember they said that it would cost a few million just to change Golden Eagle to Warriors around campus and in MU athletic buildings. 

Really? Compared to many of its peers, Marquette's endowment is paltry.

[HoopsMalone]

Really? Compared to many of its peers, Marquette's endowment is paltry.

Depends who you consider a peer.  MU's endowment is a fraction of Columbia, Notre Dame, and a lot of private schools on the coast.  But let's not put MU into the category of bending over for a few million dollars.  We are above that. 

Our alums are also above having the money to donate to a worthwhile cause at MU, but having the nickname truly hold up that donation.  Alums might say that in passing that they are upset about the nickname change, but at the end of the day, most people don't truly hold up donations due to a nickname change.  At least not anymore if they did on a kneejerk right when it happened.  We are above that too.  MU is doing just fine in the donations department since the nickname change.

[Lennys Tap]

The nickname is great, the stigma sucks.

I assume you are referring to the stigma attached to totally caving in to the forces of political correctness rather than addressing the issue like logical adults.

[bilsu]

MU has never been on probation, but probably leads the NCAA in banned uniforms. Bumbebee uniforms were banned, because they were too distracting. The untucked uniforms worn by MU were actually designed by Bo Ellis. Untucked uniforms are now also banned.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I assume you are referring to the stigma attached to totally caving in to the forces of political correctness rather than addressing the issue like logical adults.

100 percent correct. We hold the stigma of being completely pathetic as nobody in their right mind considers "Warriors" offensive. All we had to do was get rid of the mascot.

[mikem91288]

Golden State just has some yellow dude as their logo. Too bad we didn't steal that idea.

[TallTitan34]

They dropped the robot man.  Too offensive to robot men.

[mikem91288]

Yeah I'm guessing when a robot wants something he gets his way.

[brewcity77]

I'm pretty sure thanooj was being sarcastic since something similar to his scenario played out a few years ago.

Yup, because it was in 2004 at my MU graduation ceremony, the commencement speaker Wayne Sanders said he and another donor would both give $1 million. Of course, we all went nuts at the suggestion, and that led to Father Wild opening up the potential name change debate, the disastrous "Marquette Gold" nickname that stuck for about 2 weeks, and then the vote that allowed us to pick our nickname, which ultimately resulted in the return to Golden Eagles simply because Warriors was left off the ballot, and write-ins were not permitted.

My hope was we would go back to Warriors, but use something like this except with Blue and Gold:



Taken right from The Warriors movie. Then instead of having the Native American imagery, we instead use the classic soundtrack line from the movie...as the BC goes dark, you start to hear the sound of bottles clinking, then you hear the fateful "Warriors...come out to play-yay!" before the Marquette basketball team storms the court. Imagine the entire BC calling Marquette out with that creepy Warriors chant...you want to talk about creating an intimidating atmosphere for a visiting crowd, that would do it.

Of course, I really can't see a Catholic university embracing a nickname that was a play on a movie about violent street gangs, but one can dream, no?

[reinko]

They dropped the robot man.  Too offensive to robot men.

I did find that logo offensive.

Regards,
Johnny 5, RoboCop, Bishop, The Terminator, R2D2, the Iron Giant, The AutoBots, the Decepticons, Rosie the Maid, FemBots, Kitt, Vicki from Small Wonder, C-3PO, Robbie the Robot, Evil Bill & Evil Ted

[NCMUFan]

and my Roomba vacuum cleaner.

[JWags85]

Taken right from The Warriors movie. Then instead of having the Native American imagery, we instead use the classic soundtrack line from the movie...as the BC goes dark, you start to hear the sound of bottles clinking, then you hear the fateful "Warriors...come out to play-yay!" before the Marquette basketball team storms the court. Imagine the entire BC calling Marquette out with that creepy Warriors chant...you want to talk about creating an intimidating atmosphere for a visiting crowd, that would do it.

Of course, I really can't see a Catholic university embracing a nickname that was a play on a movie about violent street gangs, but one can dream, no?

I just got goosebumps thinking of that idea.  Especially with maybe a moment of silence after "play" and then breaking into some awesome intro song.  What a magnificent idea.

[Muhoops85]

I did find that logo offensive.

Regards,
Johnny 5, RoboCop, Bishop, The Terminator, R2D2, the Iron Giant, The AutoBots, the Decepticons, Rosie the Maid, FemBots, Kitt, Vicki from Small Wonder, C-3PO, Robbie the Robot, Evil Bill & Evil Ted

Now, I am offended that you overlooked me.

Signed,
HAL

[Ron Paul]

They should just change it to something simpler, hipper, and generally pleasing to everyone outside of the mineral community...The Gold.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I may be first generation bot, but count me in.

signed,

Tobor

[🏀]

Vicki from Small Wonder

Excellent reference.

[Benny B]

I did find that logo offensive.

Regards,
Johnny 5, RoboCop, Bishop, The Terminator, R2D2, the Iron Giant, The AutoBots, the Decepticons, Rosie the Maid, FemBots, Kitt, Vicki from Small Wonder, C-3PO, Robbie the Robot, Evil Bill & Evil Ted

Dexter Riley wanted to sign on too, but his credentials were rejected.  The League of Robots continues to be very exclusionary for some reason...