Wade and Bosh in Miami

[SacWarrior]

Sorry... I am kinda Anti-Wade.  Sure, its great what he did for MU but he has been a huge jerk (keeping it clean) in this FA season.  He totally did not want to go to any team.  He just used this FA to make a documentary and to spy on other team's pitches.  From the interview, talking about "it's not about the money." and "Chicago is my home" is a load of crap.  Chicago was ready to work any deal out that Miami could have done.  

I hope Wade and those other players lose and implode on each other.  Wade is attracted to sleezeballs.  First Crean and now Riley.  He sucks.

Yeah what a jerk with absolutely no loyalty for deciding to stay with the team he has only ever played for, and won a championship with.

How could he ever turn down [insert my favorite team here] for those idiots? I put a curse on his family and children.

[brewcity77]

Wade sucks? No, you dont get away with that...we owe everything that the Marquette basketball program is right now to Dwyane Wade. Next time you have a thought...let it go.

I don't know...didn't Wade already show some rather distasteful tendencies when he dressed up in IU gear? I appreciate what Wade did to help put Marquette back on the map, but he doesn't seem to be doing much to promote us now that he's gone. Guys like Wes, Jerel, Robert Jackson, and Merritt are back in town for IWB's Pro-Am. Doc Rivers is throwing us shout-outs on national television. Where's Wade? I don't expect him to come back for every Pro-Am or event we have, but I also certainly don't expect him to dress up in Crimson and Cream for Tommy Tanning Bed.

Did he screw over the Bulls? Yes, no, maybe, who knows? Maybe he had serious thoughts about going there, maybe he was a red herring to distract their attention from gettable free agents. At the end of the day, I won't lose much sleep over that. But I'm not going to kiss Dwyane Wade's ass for what he did years ago at Marquette when he's now wearing another school's colors that he has no affiliation with.

Like Crean, he did good for us while he was here. Like Crean, he's doing little to help us now. Thanks for the memories, but I'm a lot more appreciative of those who continue to promote Marquette after they leave.

[ErickJD08]

Yeah what a jerk with absolutely no loyalty for deciding to stay with the team he has only ever played for, and won a championship with.

How could he ever turn down [insert my favorite team here] for those idiots? I put a curse on his family and children.

He's a fake.  If it was about winning, he would be with the best surrounding cast like a Chicago or Cleveland.  Same with Bosh.  Bosh refused to go to Cleveland... why?  If it were about being a good father, he would be in Chicago, ya know, where his kids are.  Just man up and say, I like partying in Miami. 

And I second Brew City.  The guy is not about Marquette any more.  Nor is Crean.  So we can stop kissing his arse.

[MUSF]

I don't know...didn't Wade already show some rather distasteful tendencies when he dressed up in IU gear? I appreciate what Wade did to help put Marquette back on the map, but he doesn't seem to be doing much to promote us now that he's gone. Guys like Wes, Jerel, Robert Jackson, and Merritt are back in town for IWB's Pro-Am. Doc Rivers is throwing us shout-outs on national television. Where's Wade? I don't expect him to come back for every Pro-Am or event we have, but I also certainly don't expect him to dress up in Crimson and Cream for Tommy Tanning Bed.

Did he screw over the Bulls? Yes, no, maybe, who knows? Maybe he had serious thoughts about going there, maybe he was a red herring to distract their attention from gettable free agents. At the end of the day, I won't lose much sleep over that. But I'm not going to kiss Dwyane Wade's ass for what he did years ago at Marquette when he's now wearing another school's colors that he has no affiliation with.

Like Crean, he did good for us while he was here. Like Crean, he's doing little to help us now. Thanks for the memories, but I'm a lot more appreciative of those who continue to promote Marquette after they leave.

Nevermind that he had an ad campaign that featured MU prominently or often speaks highly of the University in interviews.

He wore some shorts representing the University that employs his old coach.  So what.  Is it wrong to feel loyalty to basically the one D1 coach that took a chance on him when he was an under the radar partial qualifier?  How about loyalty to the coach/GM that drafted him and basically gave him the helm of their franchise very early in his career?

I think it is time for some of you to scale back your expectations a little bit.  The bottom line is that DWade remains a positive asset/representative of our University and its bball program.

[HoopsMalone]

For most of the free agent sweepstakes Wade was definitely staying in Miami.  He was only coming to Chicago on a surprise visit last weekend.  

James has been on Chicago's radar for a while.  Chi is still not out with him.

Two months ago, Bulls would have taken Boozer only and been happy.  Getting the 'Big Three' is only a recent thing.  It is no fun because we all go so excited.  However, Chicago is still in a good spot.  Adding Boozer would be huge.  The Bulls would have an inside threat and a pick and roll option.  

Bulls' big pick up was DRose.  They don't need to strike lightning twice.  Missing out on Wade and probably James keeps the Bulls from winning in the next few years.  Adding Boozer and a shooter while keeping some cap space available allows them room to make trades and build for the future.  Taj, Noah, Deng, Johnson, and Rose are still a nice young core.  Boozer would make a difference.  Thibs will make a difference too.  Missed a home run, but let's just get better.

[Dish]

Odds of people taking pay cuts to go play with the Heat are slim/none, it just DOES NOT happen.

Realistically, if Wade/LBJ/Bosh wanted to all play for a title together, they would have gone to Chicago. No roster of teams with cap room was better than the Bulls.

Why would someone take a pay cut to go there? These guys want to get paid and put up stats. Unless I'm mistaken, there's only one basketball on the court at a time. Only if someone was beyond desperate to win a title, would a star player go there. A Tier 2/Tier 3 free agent would want to go there, but not another star type player.

People I talk to officially have no clue what LeBron is going to do. His inner circle is no more, Wes is out, Marverick Carter is involved, but has no clue (legit). Theories around LBJ are this:

1) Wes wanted him to come to Chicago (this is 100% fact from everyone I talk to). Carter and the rest of LBJ's inner circle viewed Wes as a power threat, and slowly moved him aside.

2) It's in Maverick's, Randy Mim's, and Rich Paul's best interest for LBJ to stay in Cleveland. Those three would basically have full control over decisions in the Cavs organization, and be on team charters, be in the locker room. Those guys are the power brokers behind LBJ.

3) As of now, unless they're all lying, none of those 3 guys know what LBJ is doing (and this is much different from what they were saying over the weekend). His inner circle did not want the ESPN show (pure LBJ move), they told him to stay off Twitter (they wanted to control LBJ info via his new website). Everything LBJ has done in the last 48 hours goes against the "brand" of LeBron. This could mean he is now seriously considering going to Chicago/Miami/New York, and going on his own. Or this is all just a lot of useless drama, and he's going to Cleveland.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Wow, jilted Bulls fans aplenty.  It's not about winning anymore?  Hasn't Miami just moved up to probably the 2nd best team in the East after today's announcement? 

Maybe we should let the season unfold along with the rest of the free agency signings to see if this is about winning or not.

J

[Aughnanure]

I don't know...didn't Wade already show some rather distasteful tendencies when he dressed up in IU gear? I appreciate what Wade did to help put Marquette back on the map, but he doesn't seem to be doing much to promote us now that he's gone. Guys like Wes, Jerel, Robert Jackson, and Merritt are back in town for IWB's Pro-Am. Doc Rivers is throwing us shout-outs on national television. Where's Wade? I don't expect him to come back for every Pro-Am or event we have, but I also certainly don't expect him to dress up in Crimson and Cream for Tommy Tanning Bed.

Did he screw over the Bulls? Yes, no, maybe, who knows? Maybe he had serious thoughts about going there, maybe he was a red herring to distract their attention from gettable free agents. At the end of the day, I won't lose much sleep over that. But I'm not going to kiss Dwyane Wade's ass for what he did years ago at Marquette when he's now wearing another school's colors that he has no affiliation with.

Like Crean, he did good for us while he was here. Like Crean, he's doing little to help us now. Thanks for the memories, but I'm a lot more appreciative of those who continue to promote Marquette after they leave.

I believe he was in one of those Doc Rivers Marquette commercials, he came to Midnight Madness not too long ago, his shoe commercials have featured Marquette in them several times. Look, I dont know about wearing IU shorts or whatever, but come on...freaking shorts! Big deal. I have no idea why you think Wade is ostracizing himself from the Marquette community. Simply put, he is literally one of the top three major stars in the NBA.

Sure Robert Jackson can come back to the ProAm because he plays in Europe or Russia or whatever. Do you see Dominic James on the roster? Jerel McNeal can't even be there for all the games, I dont see Lazar Hayward there either...jesus! Should we think they are distancing themselves from MU? Stop making such quick absolute judgments on people and decisions. DWade isnt buddy buddy with Buzz, he's still a very new coach, just relax. Do you ever EVER hear Georgia Tech being mentioned with Bosh? No, but you will often hear references to Marquette with DWade, whether it be commercials, announcers or so on.

Without Wade, where are we? Conference USA still? With the coming realignment, we need to be in the best position possible and the opportunity to to align ourselves with the best and most lucrative basketball only schools was essential and no one more influenced our path there than DWade.

[TallTitan34]

Sorry... I am kinda Anti-Wade.  Sure, its great what he did for MU but he has been a huge jerk (keeping it clean) in this FA season.  He totally did not want to go to any team.  He just used this FA to make a documentary and to spy on other team's pitches.  From the interview, talking about "it's not about the money." and "Chicago is my home" is a load of crap.  Chicago was ready to work any deal out that Miami could have done.  

I hope Wade and those other players lose and implode on each other.  Wade is attracted to sleezeballs.  First Crean and now Riley.  He sucks.

Yeah this is a bit much.  I'm disappointed that he didn't come to the Bulls but I will still cheer for him and the Heat.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

Without Wade, where are we?

Exactly what I was going to write.

Just think about, however scary it is, if Wade never came here.

Let me know if you make it out of that dark hole alive.

[MUSF]

Wow, jilted Bulls fans aplenty.  It's not about winning anymore?  Hasn't Miami just moved up to probably the 2nd best team in the East after today's announcement? 

Maybe we should let the season unfold along with the rest of the free agency signings to see if this is about winning or not.

J

+1

...and what about loyalty?  How is it not selfish to go to any team that has the best chance of winning?  What about wanting to win with the guys and the organization you have spent the better part of a decade with? 

I have never understood this.  The guys that bounce around to contenders at the end of their career to get a ring are just as selfish as the guys that go to the highest bidder, IMO.  It's the same motivation.  I want to get paid or I want a ring and I don't care where it comes from.  It's just one more personal accolade that they want to cross off the list.

[TallTitan34]

Wow, jilted Bulls fans aplenty.  It's not about winning anymore?  Hasn't Miami just moved up to probably the 2nd best team in the East after today's announcement? 

Why I agree the Wade hate is a bit much, the Bulls with Wade and Bosh would be a better team than the Heat with Wade and Bosh as it stands.

[HoopsMalone]

Hasn't Miami just moved up to probably the 2nd best team in the East after today's announcement? 

To put them at second in the East, you really need to be high on Bosh.  Bosh has never won.  He is a big SF who put up numbers in games that do not matter.  His highlights are all finger rolls and blocked shots on point guards.  I don't think much of him personally.  I think Wade made a mistake from a purely basketball POV.  If neither Wade nor James would come to Chicago, I would rather have Boozer personally at PF since he won't be a max guy.  If James or Wade wanted Bosh, though, I'd give Bosh a max in a heartbeat.  And I DEFINATELY would not trade Noah for Bosh if Wade was not coming for sure.

The Heat have a nice core.  As do the Bulls actually.  Add Boozer and Bulls might be better than the Heat depending on how much improvement the players on the team will get.  It is not crazy to think Rose, Noah, and Gibson will all improve still.  

The East is going to be pretty competitive.  Boston has one more run.  Orlando is the favorite.  Miami, Chicago, and Atlanta are in the middle.  Charlotte and Milwaukee are getting better.  I am still not high on the Knicks right now.  

Wade is still my favorite player in the league.  Everyone knew he was going to Miami the whole time.  He flirted with Chicago for a few days.  We will get over it.

[Dish]

+1

...and what about loyalty?  How is it not selfish to go to any team that has the best chance of winning?  What about wanting to win with the guys and the organization you have spent the better part of a decade with?  

I have never understood this.  The guys that bounce around to contenders at the end of their career to get a ring are just as selfish as the guys that go to the highest bidder, IMO.  It's the same motivation.  I want to get paid or I want a ring and I don't care where it comes from.  It's just one more personal accolade that they want to cross off the list.

If it was about winning, they'd be going to Chicago. The Heat have literally 3 players under contract, and those three aren't getting you a title.

If it was truly about winning, and not cash, these guys would be going to Chicago.

[TallTitan34]

100% agree Dish.

I'll still cheer for Wade and the Heat but I think he made a poor decesion if he wanted his best shot to win a title.

[LAZER]

Wow, jilted Bulls fans aplenty.  It's not about winning anymore?  Hasn't Miami just moved up to probably the 2nd best team in the East after today's announcement? 

That's very debatable and the Heat still have a lot of work to do. Personally I think Bosh has been overrated throughout this whole free agency.  I know i'm in the minority in this one, but there wasn't much winning on the Raptors while he was there.

The Bulls plus Boozer/Lee and Korver/Reddick will be a better team than the Heat with Bosh and Wade.

[TallTitan34]

Also it's being reported LBJ is flying down to Miami to meet with Wade and Bosh.

If he goes to Miami the Heat will have 3 great players and 9 players that completely suck.

[HoopsMalone]

If it was about winning, they'd be going to Chicago. The Heat have literally 3 players under contract, and those three aren't getting you a title.

If it was truly about winning, and not cash, these guys would be going to Chicago.

I don't like to look at it in absolutes where there is one choice if you want to win and everything else is against winning, but the Bulls could have easily given Deng away for a second round pick if their backs were to the wall.  The Bulls could have given Wade and Bosh both max deals whereas Bosh is now not getting a 6 year max.  The best chance to win was definitely in Chicago.  No ifs and or buts about it.

Wade wanted the 6th year.  Who can really blame him.  They will be competitive down there.  

Every day Lebron has had a new team as the favorite it seems.  It maximizes people watching his show, but who really knows what is up.  

Sign Boozer.  Chicago is literally the best team for James then.  Give Deng away for a second round pick.  Sign Korver and Reddick with Deng $.  Mid-level to Brad Miller.  James comes and wins it two out of three years with that.  

[DJO's Pump Fake]

I believe Wade just wanted to be loyal and win with the team that made him who he is today.

For lessons on loyalty, Mr. Wade asks you not to look at the Chicago Bulls Organization

[TallTitan34]

In fairness to Wade and Bosh, it doesn't look like there will be a S&T so both guys could be taking a pay cut.  Especially if LeBron is comming.

[Dish]

I believe Wade just wanted to be loyal and win with the team that made him who he is today.

For lessons on loyalty, Mr. Wade asks you not to look at the Chicago Bulls Organization

If it's loyalty, I'm guessing Wade has 30 million reasons to be loyal to the Heat, just a guess though. I'm sure loyalty trumps getting paid.

Also, as mentioned before, there are few organizations in sports more loyal than the Bulls (and White Sox). Wade apologized multiple times in person to Reinsdorf about that quote.

[ErickJD08]

To put them at second in the East, you really need to be high on Bosh.  Bosh has never won.  He is a big SF who put up numbers in games that do not matter.  His highlights are all finger rolls and blocked shots on point guards.  I don't think much of him personally.  I think Wade made a mistake from a purely basketball POV.  If neither Wade nor James would come to Chicago, I would rather have Boozer personally at PF since he won't be a max guy.  If James or Wade wanted Bosh, though, I'd give Bosh a max in a heartbeat.  And I DEFINATELY would not trade Noah for Bosh if Wade was not coming for sure.

The Heat have a nice core.  As do the Bulls actually.  Add Boozer and Bulls might be better than the Heat depending on how much improvement the players on the team will get.  It is not crazy to think Rose, Noah, and Gibson will all improve still.  

The East is going to be pretty competitive.  Boston has one more run.  Orlando is the favorite.  Miami, Chicago, and Atlanta are in the middle.  Charlotte and Milwaukee are getting better.  I am still not high on the Knicks right now.  

Wade is still my favorite player in the league.  Everyone knew he was going to Miami the whole time.  He flirted with Chicago for a few days.  We will get over it.

LOL... they don't even have a starting 5.  All they have is Bosh, Wade, Chalmers, and Beasley.  I don't see them winning.  They need a center.  And a point.  I'll wait and see what happens but lets call it what it is at the moment.  Wade just wants to party it up in Miami.  

[pbiflyer]

Also it's being reported LBJ is flying down to Miami to meet with Wade and Bosh.

If he goes to Miami the Heat will have 3 great players and 9 players that completely suck.

Let's see. They can resign Udonis Haslem. Doesn't suck, nice power forward. They could resign Joel Anthony at Center, nice 2nd year player. They have Beasley to score and rebound. They have the PG under contract
They have the mid level and veteran exceptions. Sign a PG and a lock down defender.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

Let's see. They can resign Udonis Haslem. Doesn't suck, nice power forward. They could resign Joel Anthony at Center, nice 2nd year player. They have Beasley to score and rebound. They have the PG under contract
They have the mid level and veteran exceptions. Sign a PG and a lock down defender.

Thank you, I thought I was the only one who was thinking clearly

[TallTitan34]

Also, as mentioned before, there are few organizations in sports more loyal than the Bulls (and White Sox). Wade apologized multiple times in person to Reinsdorf about that quote.

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