2010-2011 Starters

[wojosdojo]

I realize this has been brought up many times before, but now that we have seen and heard a few more things is anyone clear (or have an idea) on next years starting line up? I was thinking about making a poll until I realized there are so many different possible combinations. We all obviously know JFB and DJO are for sure starters with Junior making a solid case as well. The $91 question is who's left, 2 positions. Blue's questionable sn. Season has doubted some, Jamail has plenty of skill, but we all know Buzz is a big trust guy and it takes him a bit for him to have your trust. That being said, will Vander or Mellow start? Most likely one of them, if not certainly Buycks. That leaves one position left, either at Center (Chris) or Foward (Jae/Erik). IMO Erik is going to be a nice role player earning 15-20 MPG. I think Chris will start off the season starting but then Jae will work his way up to earn his spot, similar to last year with DJO. I have to say I am very excited to see Buzz play these guys next year because we have SO many options. I didn't even mention Gardner, Newbill, or Smith, not that they would start, but could still make an impact.

Here's mine, tell me yours.

PG- Junior
G- Vander
G- DJO
F- Jimmy
F- Jae

[APieperFan3]

Junior
Vander
DJO
JFB
Otule

I think we will see MANY different combos this year...and hopefully towards the end of the year, Buzz and staff will have their 5 distinguished 'starters'.

PLUS...I'm a big believer that is doesnt necessarily matter if you start the game...it matters if you're in at the end when the game is on the line. So I think it could be a point to take note of who Buzz plays at the end of games too.

this question may not belong in this thread but...does anyone see us pressing a lot this year?...or different types of zone defenses to help us get out and run even better?

[brewcity77]

This is what I expect to see at the start of the season...

Cadougan
DJO
Fulce
Butler
Otule

And this is what I hope to see by the time January rolls around...

Blue
DJO
Crowder
Otule
Butler

[VegasWarrior77]

+1

[Murffieus]

Cadougan will start the season at PG, but may be replaced by Vander Blue by midseason. Buycks will start at #2, DJO at #3, Butler at #4, and Otule at #5 (at least to start the season).

The way things stand now there will be a lot of subbing (large rotation), which I don't like-----too many players of relatively the same talent level. Buzz overachieved last season in part because of a very small rotation (synergy).

[bilsu]

I think it all hinges on O'tule. If he has improved and can stay healthy he starts. I do not think Big OX will be phsically ready to start. I also think that the fact that Jones is already here is a hugh boost to his chances.
C O'tule
F Crowder
F Butler
G DJO
G Buyckes

F Fulce
F Crowder
F Butler
G DJO
G Buyckes

[Mobot]

Cadougan
Bucyks
DJO
Butler
Otule

[HoopsMalone]

And this is what I hope to see by the time January rolls around...

Blue
DJO
Crowder
Otule
Butler

+1   I'd love to see Vander at the 1.  Big lineup too.

[MuMark]

Junior
DJO
Butler
Crowder
Otule

First off the bench
Blue
Buycks
Fulce

[willie warrior]

i am not buying Bucyks or Fulce starting before Crowder. Have not seen him play but by many accounts, he is a stud. I have seen Bucyks and Fulce play and neither is a stud!
PG Caddy
2G DJO
PF Crowder
SF Butler
C Otule
Vander and Bucyks will likely be first two off bench, with Fulce spotting the Forwards and Otule. Ox, Jones, and others will land some minutes in blow outs, injuries or foul trouble.

[Nukem2]

Erik Williams will be in the mix as well as Jamial Jones.  I see a 10 man rotation with Gardner, Smith and Newbill earning their spurs with limited minutes once the BE season starts.

[GOMU1104]

OT...Can we put an end to calling Junior "Caddy?" That might be the worst nickname I have ever heard.

[Aughnanure]

OT...Can we put an end to calling Junior "Caddy?" That might be the worst nickname I have ever heard.

Agreed.

[GGGG]

Junior
Buycks (replaced by Blue mid-season)
DJO
Butler
Otule

Crowder first off the bench.

[77ncaachamps]

Butler
DJO

and the 3 hardest working players on the team.
(Hopefully, a F/C is one of them.)

[NersEllenson]

The great thing about next year's lineup is going to be its versatility.  My guess:

Cadougan
Buycks
DJO
Butler
Otulue

Believe Jamail Jones and Crowder have biggest impact of the newcomers.  Competition for PT is going to be quite possibly, more intense than has been seen at MU in some time...if ever.  Legitimately think we have 12 high-major players..with Gardener being the only one that probably won't be ready for immediate PT.

[Hards Alumni]

The great thing about next year's lineup is going to be its versatility.  My guess:

Cadougan
Buycks
DJO
Butler
Otulue

Believe Jamail Jones and Crowder have biggest impact of the newcomers.  Competition for PT is going to be quite possibly, more intense than has been seen at MU in some time...if ever.  Legitimately think we have 12 high-major players..with Gardener being the only one that probably won't be ready for immediate PT.

completely agree.

[77ncaachamps]

The great thing about next year's lineup is going to be its versatility.  My guess:

Cadougan
Buycks
DJO
Butler
Otule

Believe Jamail Jones and Crowder have biggest impact of the newcomers.  Competition for PT is going to be quite possibly, more intense than has been seen at MU in some time...if ever.  Legitimately think we have 12 high-major players..with Gardener being the only one that probably won't be ready for immediate PT.

No mention of Vander?
I think he starts over Cadougan...

[Hards Alumni]

No mention of Vander?
I think he starts over Cadougan...

based on?

[crosscheck]

Yes, I know this isn't realistic but i would LOVE to see Blue start against Madison.

[NersEllenson]

No mention of Vander?
I think he starts over Cadougan...

I didn't mention Vander in my assessment as I believe Jones and Crowder will have biggest impact.  I just hope that fans don't expect too much from Vander as a freshman.  He has a lot of hype, and of course the UW decommitment, MU commitment just adds juice.  Vander may have the highest ceiling of any of next year's recruits, but I'm not sure he'll be the most productive as a freshman.  I was really impressed from what I saw of Jamial Jones recently....and just think he might be more ready to contribute immediately.

[GGGG]

I didn't mention Vander in my assessment as I believe Jones and Crowder will have biggest impact.  I just hope that fans don't expect too much from Vander as a freshman.  He has a lot of hype, and of course the UW decommitment, MU commitment just adds juice.  Vander may have the highest ceiling of any of next year's recruits, but I'm not sure he'll be the most productive as a freshman.  I was really impressed from what I saw of Jamial Jones recently....and just think he might be more ready to contribute immediately.

Based upon what I saw when he was on ESPN, Jones' defense needs a ton of work for him to make immediate contributions. 

I think we are making the same mistake as we did last year...we expect too much from our freshman and don't recognize their faults.

[GGGG]

No mention of Vander?
I think he starts over Cadougan...

Why would you expect someone a freshman, who didn't play point guard in high school, to start over a sophomore who was considered one of the top 10-15 point guards in the country coming out of high school?

[GOMU1104]

What excites me is that at the beginning of the school year, it is looking like we will actually have 13 scholarship players. Buzz will have options and there will be a healthy competition for minutes.

I think guessing on who the starters will be is kindof a lost cause. Are we talking about who starts in November? Are we talking about who starts in January? Are we talking about who starts in March?

I have held this entire time, and I will continue to feel this way barring something unexpected:

Guards - Junior (PG 1), Vander (PG 2/SG 3), DJO (SG 1), Buycks (SG 2), Smith, Newbill
Wings - Butler, Jones
Forwards - Fulce, Crowder, Williams, Gardner
Centers - Otule

The italics are the players that I think will get the majority of minutes. A healthy 9 man rotation...I get would worried if it extends beyond that.

[g0lden3agle]

I think we are making the same mistake as we did last year...we expect too much from our freshman and don't recognize their faults.

This.  Should we sticky some " (Insert Freshman Here) in Buzz's Dog House? Plays minimal minutes against (Insert Mid-Major Here).  Possible mid-season transfer?" posts just to get em out of the way pre-season?