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Quote from: Canadian Dimes on May 04, 2010, 03:29:14 PM

The story i was told and it may even be in print somewhere was that Otule was a Buzz find/recruit and Crean did not think he was good enough to offer.  So the story goes Buzz really lobbied hard for Otule and asked crean to give him a chance which Crean was completely against but relented.  Whtehr that is true or not we may never know and as to who was right and who was wrong we will see over the next 3 years

You heard wrong.  Buzz has explained the the Otule recruitment this way.  Buzz was recruiting Otule, but didn't think that Otule was far enough long in his development to make an offer to until farther in the recruiting season when MU would know better where it stood with its other recruits and got to see how Otule progressed during his senior year.  Crean did not want to take a chance on losing out on Otule, if he did show real progress as a senior and have his recruitment take off, so Crean told Buzz to offer Otule immediately.  Buzz then somewhat awkwardly made the offer to Otule in his coach's office.  The awkwardness was due to the fact that Buzz had told Otule's coach very recently that Marquette would be following Otule's progress as a senior, but Buzz had also shared his evaluation from above that Otule's game definitely needed to develop.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: LittleMurs on May 05, 2010, 11:21:30 PM
You heard wrong.  Buzz has explained the the Otule recruitment this way.  Buzz was recruiting Otule, but didn't think that Otule was far enough long in his development to make an offer to until farther in the recruiting season when MU would know better where it stood with its other recruits and got to see how Otule progressed during his senior year.  Crean did not want to take a chance on losing out on Otule, if he did show real progress as a senior and have his recruitment take off, so Crean told Buzz to offer Otule immediately.  Buzz then somewhat awkwardly made the offer to Otule in his coach's office.  The awkwardness was due to the fact that Buzz had told Otule's coach very recently that Marquette would be following Otule's progress as a senior, but Buzz had also shared his evaluation from above that Otule's game definitely needed to develop.

This is according to...?

RawdogDX

If Ooze says "coach, i want to play." than he won't get redshirted, and they probably aren't even discussing it.  This is the same coach who didn't red shirt JC and let James play. 
We pick up a chubby 6'8 freshman and that makes people think he'll get 0 minutes next year.  He's 7'2 and athletic, he's worth having on the bench.

NotAnAlum

who is Ooze?
Anyway this thread is not a perdiction of what will happen.  Its a fan's opinion of what would be wise to do.
There is also a big difference between letting your star senior finish his final year or your star freshman play when you have a seven man rotation and keeping two centers both of which need development time to have any reasonable impact, when you've got two upper classmen playing the single postion ahead of them.
Add to that the fact that you never would normally recruit 2 centers in the same class but due to CO's redshirt both he and Mbao are now in the same class.

RawdogDX

Quote from: NotAnAlum on May 06, 2010, 02:14:53 PM
who is Ooze?
Anyway this thread is not a perdiction of what will happen.  Its a fan's opinion of what would be wise to do.
There is also a big difference between letting your star senior finish his final year or your star freshman play when you have a seven man rotation and keeping two centers both of which need development time to have any reasonable impact, when you've got two upper classmen playing the single postion ahead of them.
Add to that the fact that you never would normally recruit 2 centers in the same class but due to CO's redshirt both he and Mbao are now in the same class.

ouch, what was i smoking?

And due to chris' injuries i want Mbao to get game experience.  He'll get better or we'll pick up better players and wouldn't want him here for year 5 anyway. 
Besides, I don't think it's good for moral to play Mbao one year, have him work out all offseason, then sign a fat freshman and tell Mbao he isn't good enough, a project, and needs to red shirt.  Part of this game is dealing with people.

Doctor V

Quote from: RawdogDX on May 07, 2010, 02:30:29 PM
ouch, what was i smoking?

And due to chris' injuries i want Mbao to get game experience.  He'll get better or we'll pick up better players and wouldn't want him here for year 5 anyway. 
Besides, I don't think it's good for moral to play Mbao one year, have him work out all offseason, then sign a fat freshman and tell Mbao he isn't good enough, a project, and needs to red shirt.  Part of this game is dealing with people.

I dont think he would appreciate hearing you calling him "fat." The kids do read these boards ya know... Oh and by the way, hes trimmed down 30lbs to 290  ;)

RawdogDX

Either he ignores me or he decides to use some random loser poster who has never seen him before as inspiration.  Any other response and he isn't big east material.  Just don't give the guy my IP address.

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