Crean loses another recruit

[Tugg Speedman]

The other thing he could do is strike gold with a player as he did with Wade. The what if game is admittedly rather pointless, but had he not found Wade, how long would he actually have been at MU?

Had he not found Wade, would we be in C-USA or the BE right now?

[Canadian Dimes]

yes, the rumor is that he was telling recruits untruths (he is the reason Irving backed out on us, supposedly )

Ro was also rumored to be in the ear of some of the players causing static, which I can believe because something went bad wrong mid season in the locker room.....   

All rumors, but the bottom line is Crean is in charge...  he is the one that should be held accountable.

You do realize how stupid you sound dont you?  Crean's MO is there is a conspiracy against him on every thing that is not successful.  Negative recruiting, fathers, assistants.  Listen son, kids commit to coaches not some 4th assistant.  Irving backed out on Crean for the same reason he has difficulties recruitng.  Because he is like a robot, pull the string and get some recorded coach speak, he can relate to know one, he has zero personality and all those factors weigh heavily against you sitting in someones living room.  You can only drop the name Dwyane Wade so many times.

[texaswarrior74]

But if he flops in the 11 and 12 classes he is in big trouble...

Two of the biggest instate recruits in 2011 are Cody Zeller and Marshall Plumlee and from what I can gather from reading other boards, neither one is seriously considering IU.

If that kind of in state recruiting continues he won't see the 2012 season.

[CrimsonNCrean]

You do realize how stupid you sound dont you?  Crean's MO is there is a conspiracy against him on every thing that is not successful.  Negative recruiting, fathers, assistants.  Listen son, kids commit to coaches not some 4th assistant.  Irving backed out on Crean for the same reason he has difficulties recruitng.  Because he is like a robot, pull the string and get some recorded coach speak, he can relate to know one, he has zero personality and all those factors weigh heavily against you sitting in someones living room.  You can only drop the name Dwyane Wade so many times.

Listen son..........   where in my post did you not see the words "these are rumors?"  I was simply conveying what is speculation around the program.......   

It is obvious you dislike the man, and I am on my to that opinion also...   like I said...   Crean is the one who is in charge and should be held accountable....

reading comprehension can be your friend...   

[CrimsonNCrean]

Two of the biggest instate recruits in 2011 are Cody Zeller and Marshall Plumlee and from what I can gather from reading other boards, neither one is seriously considering IU.

If that kind of in state recruiting continues he won't see the 2012 season.

this is incorrect....    Plumlee plays H.S. ball in North Carolina and he will go to Duke

Zeller is very high on IU, but he is also very high on Butler....   

I hope Crean can land him but I have a bad feeling Cody will be a Bulldog...    It will be IU or Butler

[Brewtown Andy]

Listen son, kids commit to coaches not some 4th assistant. 

*coughaaronbowencough*

[ChicosBailBonds]

Two of the biggest instate recruits in 2011 are Cody Zeller and Marshall Plumlee and from what I can gather from reading other boards, neither one is seriously considering IU.

If that kind of in state recruiting continues he won't see the 2012 season.

Well I'm not sure what you're reading because Zeller is certainly considering IU.  Doesn't mean he'll end up there, but he is seriously considering IU.  Plumlee is all over the board, his two brothers went to the Final Four today for Duke.  He may follow their footsteps, he may go to Wisconsin, or any number of other locations. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Didn't the assistant get fired the second last game of the season?

Don't confuse Mr. Hayward \ Blackswan \ Canadiandimes \ Ahoyaballscout \ douchebagtothestars  with any facts, it might make him explode.

There's a reason he was fired and a damn good one at that.   Considering our beloved poster lives in Indiana, he sure is far from any real information.  Guy must love under a rock or in the basement with grandma

[rocky_warrior]

All rumors, but the bottom line is Crean is in charge...  he is the one that should be held accountable.

While we're talking rumors, has this one been shot down?

http://twitter.com/WilliamGunter/status/11168157195

Crazy rumor of the day now circulating: Indiana trustees meeting tonight to come up with buyout for Tom Crean and contract for Brad Stevens     4:02 PM Mar 27th   via mobile web   

Was posted a couple days ago, and I don't know William Gunter, but I gather that he is a South Carolina basketball insider of sorts.

[nyg]

While we're talking rumors, has this one been shot down?

http://twitter.com/WilliamGunter/status/11168157195
Was posted a couple days ago, and I don't know William Gunter, but I gather that he is a South Carolina basketball insider of sorts.

More rumors, where there is smoke there is fire.

Oregon to offer Izzo more money than Calipari currently makes.  Read that Izzo make $3 mill a year, so can't imagine what the offer will be.  If Michigan State actually wins this year, does Izzo really have to prove anything else at Michigan State. Now that would be a big time move by Oregon and leaves the Michigan State job open.  But not for a former assistant coach.......

[HoopsMalone]

More rumors, where there is smoke there is fire.

Oregon to offer Izzo more money than Calipari currently makes.  Read that Izzo make $3 mill a year, so can't imagine what the offer will be.  If Michigan State actually wins this year, does Izzo really have to prove anything else at Michigan State. Now that would be a big time move by Oregon and leaves the Michigan State job open.  But not for a former assistant coach.......

Brian Gregory was rumored to be the guy for Iowa, but that never happened.  Maybe he is the former MSU assistant who could benefit form Izzo leaving.

I bet Izzo just gets a raise from MSU.  I mean, he has 6 Final Fours and Calipari has none.  Maybe the proven record should get Izzo something.

[VegasWarrior77]

More rumors, where there is smoke there is fire.

Oregon to offer Izzo more money than Calipari currently makes.  Read that Izzo make $3 mill a year, so can't imagine what the offer will be.  If Michigan State actually wins this year, does Izzo really have to prove anything else at Michigan State. Now that would be a big time move by Oregon and leaves the Michigan State job open.  But not for a former assistant coach.......

It's MSU!  It's MSU!  Indiana would probably help him pack and move!

[Canadian Dimes]

*coughaaronbowencough*

way off base Aaron had a relationship with dale layer that was developed when dale layer was a HEAD Coach,  that relationship continued when he went to MArquette as the lead assistant.  Not some 4th assistnt.  Irving did not become interested in IU becuase of mcleod and did not run like a scared dog becuase of him either.  the only that would have you beleive that are Crean apologists

[reinko]

If Izzo was driven my $, he would have taken the Atlanta Hawks and the $30 mil they are offered him.

[ChicosBailBonds]

If Izzo was driven my $, he would have taken the Atlanta Hawks and the $30 mil they are offered him.

Exactly.  He's also a Michigan native, hard to see him leaving.

[ChicosBailBonds]

While we're talking rumors, has this one been shot down?

http://twitter.com/WilliamGunter/status/11168157195
Was posted a couple days ago, and I don't know William Gunter, but I gather that he is a South Carolina basketball insider of sorts.

Last week President McRobbie was out this way for a gathering of Indiana graduates.  Unless he's a bald face liar or an incredible poker player, I'd say this rumor has no chance of happening....but who knows.

[79Warrior]

Exactly.  He's also a Michigan native, hard to see him leaving.

There are only two reasons Izzo leaves MSU. One is for a pro gig and the other is to retire.

[Fullodds]

So last Week the President McRobbie was talking about this rumor or just professing his love for Crean?

Last week President McRobbie was out this way for a gathering of Indiana graduates.  Unless he's a bald face liar or an incredible poker player, I'd say this rumor has no chance of happening....but who knows.

[ChicosBailBonds]

So last Week the President McRobbie was talking about this rumor or just professing his love for Crean?

He was talking about the program, how decimated it was and how they feel they have the right man for the job who will be there for a long time....from what I understand.  I could not attend but one of the guys that I work with is an IU alum and paraphrased those comments.

[ChicosBailBonds]

You do realize how stupid you sound dont you?  Crean's MO is there is a conspiracy against him on every thing that is not successful.  Negative recruiting, fathers, assistants.  Listen son, kids commit to coaches not some 4th assistant.  Irving backed out on Crean for the same reason he has difficulties recruitng.  Because he is like a robot, pull the string and get some recorded coach speak, he can relate to know one, he has zero personality and all those factors weigh heavily against you sitting in someones living room.  You can only drop the name Dwyane Wade so many times.

There's the rude, condescending, beautiful postings of Mr. Hayward that I love so much.  It's been so long. 

"....he can relate to know [sic] one".   

I've missed you, really have.  Are you sending junior to IU's basketball camp this year with him in charge?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Can anyone name this coach?

Record

Year 1  8-21
Year 2  9-19
Year 3  4-13
Year 4  15-16
Year 5  21-11
Year 6  24-15
Year 7  28-8


Fixed 

[kmwtrucks]

why in year 3 did they only play 17 games?

[GOMU1104]

Can anyone name this coach?

Record

Year 1  8-21
Year 2  9-19
Year 3  4-13
Year 4  15-16
Year 5  21-11
Year 6  21-11
Year 7  24-15
Year 8  28-8

Scott drew

[ChicosBailBonds]

Scott drew

Ding ding

When teams are starting from scratch, which is what IU, Baylor and a few others have had to do, it takes YEARS to get it going.  These comparisons to Kentucky or Memphis or whatever, when they have 4 or 5 guys returning plus top 10 recruiting classes are not apples to apples.

5 Years for Scott Drew to have a winning record.

[ChicosBailBonds]

why in year 3 did they only play 17 games?

They played conference only games that year