Buzz Rumors Question

[Tugg Speedman]

Buzz to Iowa with more coming.

Is some of this good for recruiting as it says your coach is good?  Or, is it bad as it says instability?

When is too much of a good thing bad?

Thoughts?

[MerrittsMustache]

I really feel that all of the "Crean to..." rumors really hurt Marquette's recruiting. If MU wants to keep Buzz and give recruits a sense of stability, they'll lock him up long-term (preferably with minimal outs).

[Skatastrophy]

Buzz to Iowa with more coming.

Is some of this good for recruiting as it says your coach is good?  Or, is it bad as it says instability?

When is too much of a good thing bad?

Thoughts?

I don't put any stock into the rumors when they're mentioning 15 other coaches at the same time.

When it starts getting reported that Buzz is in the top 3 candidates for Program X then it starts to get to me a bit.

[79Warrior]

I really feel that all of the "Crean to..." rumors really hurt Marquette's recruiting. If MU wants to keep Buzz and give recruits a sense of stability, they'll lock him up long-term (preferably with minimal outs).

Does not matter how "long" a contract is. If a guy wants out, he gets out.

[Pakuni]

There are no Buzz rumors.
There are people on message boards saying they'd like him to be their team's coach.
Big difference.

[Marquette84]

There are no Buzz rumors.
There are people on message boards saying they'd like him to be their team's coach.
Big difference.

There is usually a pretty strong correlation between message board comments and the actual search. 

When Crean left, the two names most frequently mentioned on the message board were Sean Miller and Tony Bennett. And the first two coaches contacted by Marquette were Sean Miller and Tony Bennett. 

Sure, there are outliers, but if multiple fans on a team message board are mentioning Buzz, you can bet he's on the list drawn up by the AD's office as well.

[Benny B]

There is usually a pretty strong correlation between message board comments and the actual search. 

When Crean left, the two names most frequently mentioned on the message board were Sean Miller and Tony Bennett. And the first two coaches contacted by Marquette were Sean Miller and Tony Bennett. 

Sure, there are outliers, but if multiple fans on a team message board are mentioning Buzz, you can bet he's on the list drawn up by the AD's office as well.

There's may be a correlation between message boards and a search (it's not hard to guess), but the correlation between message boards and who is actually hired is darn near zero.

Using the previous example, no one on the message boards mentioned Buzz (in seriousness) when Crean left.

[Pakuni]

There is usually a pretty strong correlation between message board comments and the actual search. 

When Crean left, the two names most frequently mentioned on the message board were Sean Miller and Tony Bennett. And the first two coaches contacted by Marquette were Sean Miller and Tony Bennett. 

Sure, there are outliers, but if multiple fans on a team message board are mentioning Buzz, you can bet he's on the list drawn up by the AD's office as well.

Really?
Then Ben Howland and Bruce Pearl are among the top contenders for the Iowa job.
Must be true. I read it on a message board.
And Bobby Knight and Lute Olsen are among the candidates at Seton Hall. So sayeth a message board.

[mwbauer7]

I'm more insulted that Iowa even considers themselves anything other than a step down from Marquette....

[DJO's Pump Fake]

I'm more insulted that Iowa even considers themselves anything other than a step down from Marquette....

Agreed

[Brewtown Andy]

I'm more insulted that Iowa even considers themselves anything other than a step down from Marquette....

AT BEST it's a parallel move.

At worst, it's a job where they just fired a guy before he got a chance to coach only players he recruited.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

It is a step down in conference, a step down in talent, a step down in tradition

Where are the steps up that would equal a parallel movement?

[DJO's Pump Fake]

AND a step down in spending!

[Brewtown Andy]

It is a step down in conference, a step down in talent, a step down in tradition

Where are the steps up that would equal a parallel movement?

I gave them credit for being in a power conference and that's about it.  That's why I used the all caps on 'AT BEST.' 

[TheButlerDidIt]

AND a step down in spending!

My vote for best screen name...

[Tulsa Warrior]

Fans -- Buzz has repeatedly made a definitive statement on the issue.  Heck he just repeated it on Rome's show yesterday.  "I will be the Marquette coach as long as they want me."  He has made that statement everytime he has been asked and many times he has made the comment even when he isn't asked.

I believe him and expect that there will be a Buzz Williams statue next to Al McGuire's someday.

[Brewtown Andy]

I believe him and expect that there will be a Buzz Williams statue next to Al McGuire's someday.

I was kinda hoping for a Buzz shaped robot doing the "walk it out" dance on a loop.

[downtown85]

Fans -- Buzz has repeatedly made a definitive statement on the issue.  Heck he just repeated it on Rome's show yesterday.  "I will be the Marquette coach as long as they want me."  He has made that statement everytime he has been asked and many times he has made the comment even when he isn't asked.

I believe him and expect that there will be a Buzz Williams statue next to Al McGuire's someday.

I believe Buzz when he says that but I also believe it is possible that he may end up coaching somewhere else, someday. I just don't think that will be soon because this job really fits him. If you listen carefully to his answer to the question, he always mentions the agreement in philosophy with the administration.   

I am a little worried about the post-Wild regime.  Who knows what the new Prez will want?

I truly hope that there will be a Buzz statue next to Al's as that will mean he was here a long time and will have accomplished great things.

[bma725]

It is a step down in conference, a step down in talent, a step down in tradition

Where are the steps up that would equal a parallel movement?

TV coverage.  The Big Ten Network brings in a boatload of money, and they can sell it as a recruiting tool to coaches.

That's about all Iowa has at this point.

[MuMark]

Pakuni nails it.

I saw a Dixon to Oregon mention.....Pearl to Iowa......Little to do about nothing.


He understands and appreciates the chance the MU adminstration showed in him when they gave him the job. He is a man of faith who has mentioned on numerous occassions(including on national radio yesterday) that he loves it at Marquette and he will be here "as long as they will have me."

I understand we are all cynical......but can't we at least be open to the possibility that this guy really is speaking the truth?

There are no Buzz rumors.
There are people on message boards saying they'd like him to be their team's coach.
Big difference.

[MarquetteFan94]

It is a step down in conference, a step down in talent, a step down in tradition

Where are the steps up that would equal a parallel movement?

Not to mention the facilities and taking a back seat to football....a move to Iowa would be a step down...not even close. 

[Pakuni]

I am a little worried about the post-Wild regime.  Who knows what the new Prez will want?

Perhaps my faith is misplaced here, but I'd like to believe the Board of Trustees recognizes (or, better stated, will continue to recognize) the importance of men's basketball to Marquette as a whole, and therefore chooses a president who shares that philosophy.
I have a hard time believing the board is going to select a candidate who differs with them on that issue, so I'm not all that troubled about it.

[texaswarrior74]

I am a little worried about the post-Wild regime.  Who knows what the new Prez will want?

Rumor I have been hearing from other alum is that the current President at St. Joes is the guy most believe will be Wild's replacement. St. Joe's has always been a decent basketball school and part of that crazy Philly area basketball scene. If true, we should be okay.

[BrewCity83]

Buzz and Fr. Wild seem to really like each other.  Our next prez could be a basketball guy, but (for those who want to have something to worry about) maybe Buzz's and his personalities will clash, leading to less job satisfaction.  You just never know.

[SaveOD238]

"I'll be there as long as they'll have me"-Buzz

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