Next Years Roster and Stats Prediction

[flash]

I'm really excited to see next years team play together, mostly because I can't wait to see Vander Blue and the rest of the incoming recruting class.  This may be a little early to be making predictions but this is what i came up with.

Thoughts?

I was really tempted to put Junior Cadougan in the starting line up, but I just think Vander Blue will be better.  

Starters
DJO   16 pts   3 rebs 2 ast
Dwight Buycks  8 pts 4 rebs 3 ast
Vander Blue 9 pts 3rebs 4 ast
Jimmy Butler 17 pts 8 rebs 2 ast
Joe Fulce 6 pts 4 rebs 1 ast

Bench
Junior Cadougan 6 pts 2 rebs 3ast
Jae Crowder 5 pts 4 rebs 1 at
Jamil Jones 3 pts 2rebs 0ast
Erik Williams 4 pts 2 rebs 1 ast
Chris Otule 4 pts 4 rebs 0 ast
DJ Newbill  2 pts 1reb 1 ast
Reggie Smith 2 pts 1reb 1 ast
Yousopha Mbao .5 pts 1 reb .1 ast
Rob Frozena .3 pts  .7 rebs .2 ast

[Benny B]

So who's playing point?  My understanding is that Vander is more valuable at the 2 than the 1.

[Nukem2]

Cadougan will start at point guard.  Blue's competition will be with Buycks.

[GOMU1104]

Junior is MU's only pure PG on next years roster, he will get significant minutes.

Vander is not ready to be a full time PG at the college level.

[nyg]

Junior's the true point guard and will start.

Starters:

Buycks
Junior
Otule
DJO
Butler

Stats: who knows

I also would not be suprised if Mbao is still on the roster.  Maybe he redshirts, maybe he decides to depart.  Alot of maybes.  Buzz is still recruiting and I don't know if he wants to have two "projects" at the center position.

[jmd1914]

i think that otule is going to start over fulce because otule is taller than fulce and buzz has already tried to put otule into the starting lineup this year before he got hurt.  i could also see junior fighting for one of the guard spots, most likely buycks unless buycks improves his shot and ball control. other than that i agree with the stats for the most part and believe that one of the incoming freshmen is going to have a decent year in scoring, most likely vander, and average 12-14 pts a game

[Doris Burkes Thong]

This is just my personal opinion, but I think a lot of MU fan's expectations for Vander Blue are just too high at the moment. It's not that I don't think he'll be a real good player for MU in the future, it's just I don't see him making as big of an impact as a lot of people are expecting him to make next year. I mean there's people talking like he's a one and done type player on these boards. Are they nuts? He's good, but not John Wall good and living in WI it's not like he plays against top high school competition either. People need to be patient with Vander.

[nyg]

I'm really excited to see next years team play together, mostly because I can't wait to see Vander Blue and the rest of the incoming recruting class.  This may be a little early to be making predictions but this is what i came up with.

Thoughts?

I was really tempted to put Junior Cadougan in the starting line up, but I just think Vander Blue will be better. 

Starters
DJO   16 pts   3 rebs 2 ast
Dwight Buycks  8 pts 4 rebs 3 ast
Vander Blue 9 pts 3rebs 4 ast
Jimmy Butler 17 pts 8 rebs 2 ast
Joe Fulce 6 pts 4 rebs 1 ast

Bench
Junior Cadougan 6 pts 2 rebs 3ast
Jae Crowder 5 pts 4 rebs 1 at
Jamil Jones 3 pts 2rebs 0ast
Chris Otule 4 pts 4 rebs 0 ast
DJ Newbill  2 pts 1reb 1 ast
Reggie Smith 2 pts 1reb 1 ast
Yousopha Mbao .5 pts 1 reb .1 ast
Rob Frozena .3 pts  .7 rebs .2 ast

BTW, where's EWill?

[Doris Burkes Thong]

I'm really excited to see next years team play together, mostly because I can't wait to see Vander Blue and the rest of the incoming recruting class.  This may be a little early to be making predictions but this is what i came up with.

Thoughts?

I was really tempted to put Junior Cadougan in the starting line up, but I just think Vander Blue will be better. 

Starters
DJO   16 pts   3 rebs 2 ast
Dwight Buycks  8 pts 4 rebs 3 ast
Vander Blue 9 pts 3rebs 4 ast
Jimmy Butler 17 pts 8 rebs 2 ast
Joe Fulce 6 pts 4 rebs 1 ast

Bench
Junior Cadougan 6 pts 2 rebs 3ast
Jae Crowder 5 pts 4 rebs 1 at
Jamil Jones 3 pts 2rebs 0ast
Chris Otule 4 pts 4 rebs 0 ast
DJ Newbill  2 pts 1reb 1 ast
Reggie Smith 2 pts 1reb 1 ast
Yousopha Mbao .5 pts 1 reb .1 ast
Rob Frozena .3 pts  .7 rebs .2 ast

No Erik Williams?

[NersEllenson]

This is just my personal opinion, but I think a lot of MU fan's expectations for Vander Blue are just too high at the moment. It's not that I don't think he'll be a real good player for MU in the future, it's just I don't see him making as big of an impact as a lot of people are expecting him to make next year. I mean there's people talking like he's a one and done type player on these boards. Are they nuts? He's good, but not John Wall good and living in WI it's not like he plays against top high school competition either. People need to be patient with Vander.

+1 - Agree 100%  As for starting lineup and points per prediction:
Junior - 6ppg
Buycks - 12ppg
DJO - 18ppg
Butler - 19ppg
Crowder - 14ppg

2nd team
Smith - 3ppg
Blue - 7ppg
Williams - 4ppg
Fulce - 8ppg
Otule - 7ppg

[YoungMUFan4]

+1 - Agree 100%  As for starting lineup and points per prediction:
Junior - 6ppg
Buycks - 12ppg
DJO - 18ppg
Butler - 19ppg
Crowder - 14ppg

2nd team
Smith - 3ppg
Blue - 7ppg
Williams - 4ppg
Fulce - 8ppg
Otule - 7ppg

98 points per game?

[Lennys Tap]

+1 - Agree 100%  As for starting lineup and points per prediction:
Junior - 6ppg
Buycks - 12ppg
DJO - 18ppg
Butler - 19ppg
Crowder - 14ppg

2nd team
Smith - 3ppg
Blue - 7ppg
Williams - 4ppg
Fulce - 8ppg
Otule - 7ppg

Love your optimism but doubt we'll average 98 points per game next year.

[ChicosBailBonds]

+1 - Agree 100%  As for starting lineup and points per prediction:
Junior - 6ppg
Buycks - 12ppg
DJO - 18ppg
Butler - 19ppg
Crowder - 14ppg

2nd team
Smith - 3ppg
Blue - 7ppg
Williams - 4ppg
Fulce - 8ppg
Otule - 7ppg

I'll take that bet.      Crowder is going to come in and average 14ppg?  Based on what?  You're asking a lot of guys to jump about 6 points per game over what they are doing now.  It can be done (Butler), but usually it's a result of opportunity.  Butler was option 5 or 6 last year, he's now option 2.  Is Buycks going to have that same opportunity?

Maybe.  I like the enthusiasm, but not sure where these ppg are coming from....unless every game goes to OT next year. 

[Bling]

Terry Sanders.

[ErickJD08]

Love your optimism but doubt we'll average 98 points per game next year.

Agreed.  Like to optimism but that is the fun part of college ball, every year you team changes a bit.  I do think JC will start and it wouldn't surprise me if he was really effective.  It wouldn't surprise me if Fulce shores up his defense and scores 12 points a game.  Honestly, I really won't be surprised if EWill is this year's Fulce where he scores like 4 ppg but has games where he puts up 14.  I wouldn't be surprised if Blue played only 15 minutes a game next season.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Juco kids were flops.  I can go on but the truth is that a bunch of major contributors are graduating and we will need other players to step up.  I see the ability to step up from all of our players.

[HoopsMalone]

I would like to see how this lineup would work:

G-Blue
G-DJO
F-Butler
F-Crowder
F- Fulce

I would not start it, but it would be interesting to see how those five could do.  If Blue can handle the ball well it would be fun.  They are all big, strong, athletic players who can shoot (Fulce has shown it! and I thought Crowder was supposed to be able to shoot).  They could switch on every screen, and it would be a good rebounding lineup. 


I'd probably start Cadougan and Otule though with DJO and Jimmy for sure.  Then Blue and Buycks battling for the 2 or put Crowder (maybe even EWill?) at a forward and move Jimmy to the wing. 

I love that Blue comes in at the third option at best.  No pressure, just let him develop before the conference season starts. 

[flash]

I guess i didnt really think who would be playing the point.  I think the 3 guards of Blue, DJO, and Buycks could work.  But its more likley that Cadougan starts over Blue.  Its probably more likely that it will be Cadougan, Buycks, and DJO because Buzz seems to go for experience.

[YoungMUFan4]

I would like to see how this lineup would work:

G-Blue
G-DJO
F-Butler
F-Crowder
F- Fulce

I would not start it, but it would be interesting to see how those five could do.  If Blue can handle the ball well it would be fun.  They are all big, strong, athletic players who can shoot (Fulce has shown it! and I thought Crowder was supposed to be able to shoot).  They could switch on every screen, and it would be a good rebounding lineup. 


I'd probably start Cadougan and Otule though with DJO and Jimmy for sure.  Then Blue and Buycks battling for the 2 or put Crowder (maybe even EWill?) at a forward and move Jimmy to the wing. 

I love that Blue comes in at the third option at best.  No pressure, just let him develop before the conference season starts. 

what is that? I thought Juco's sucked

[Daniel]

I think Otule will start from game one.

Otule
Butler
DJO
Junior
Buycks


Off the bench:
Fulce
Blue
Crowder
__
Erik
Newbill
Smith
Mbao
Frozena

I say we score in the mid 70's.

[MarquetteDano]

Next year will have a ton of questions.  It is going to be really interesting.  I think I have quite a few questions at the five spot and it is too early for me to try a prediction.

What we know?
-Johnson-Odom and Butler start

What is probable?
- Cadougan starts at point.  Does he average 30 min?  Prob not but who knows?

What I would guess?
- Buycks starts over Blue.  Blue is a major contributor off bench (maybe 20+ min. per game)

What I don't know?
- Who is the other starter?  Otule?  Fulce?  Crowder?  Way to early to tell at this point.  This position will probably have to defend the five so Otule is definitely going to get minutes.  How many?  Haven't the slightest idea at this point

Bench?
- Obviously, whoever doesn't start of Otule-Fulce-Crowder and Buycks-Blue is going to get solid minutes.  After that, I would say that EWill and Smith get the next most minutes.

[ErickJD08]

Hmm... no offense to the kid, but why is everyone on the Buycks bandwagon as a starter?  I don't see a ton of upside.  I think he is a bench player because he has poor shot selection and he isn't the best decision maker.  I don't mind if he gives some guys a breather but unless he gets a better jump shot or becomes a better defender, I can see other players taking the available PT.

[GGGG]

Hmm... no offense to the kid, but why is everyone on the Buycks bandwagon as a starter?  I don't see a ton of upside.  I think he is a bench player because he has poor shot selection and he isn't the best decision maker.  I don't mind if he gives some guys a breather but unless he gets a better jump shot or becomes a better defender, I can see other players taking the available PT.

I think he will start...at least at the beginning of the season...because DJO and he are the only guards with experience.

[flash]

He will probably start because he will be a senior and he brings Big East experince and athletecism.  But I hope Vander Blue starts over him because I think he will be a way better player. 

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

+1 - Agree 100%  As for starting lineup and points per prediction:
Junior - 6ppg
Buycks - 12ppg
DJO - 18ppg
Butler - 19ppg
Crowder - 14ppg

2nd team
Smith - 3ppg
Blue - 7ppg
Williams - 4ppg
Fulce - 8ppg
Otule - 7ppg

:-)

I give you credit, man. You are really drinking the kool aid.

I REALLY hope you are right, because that would be amazing, and an incredibly fun team to watch.

[chapman]

Last year when this came up many had three, even four freshmen starting for this season.  When the scoring came up in preseason predictions I had Butler at 10, DJO at 6, and Mo at 5.  Methinks predicting this stuff is more of a "fairy tale" as Buzz would call it than speculating about the NCAA tournament a month beforehand.