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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 25, 2010, 02:40:28 PM
It's funny that the same people who knock the poster MU84 in another thread for being sensitive show in this thread they are just as sensitive.

Everyone's got a soft spot.

How true.  Most of that comes from who is posting as well.  If certain posters say anything that even passively asks a question, it's immediately deemed a slam on Buzz by others.  The the bat signal goes off and the defense team comes in.   And yes, the same can be said about other posters (myself included) when certain posters make comments about previous regimes.

Soft spots indeed, by all of us.   ;)

4everwarriors

Does he have issues? What does Kool Aid Perry want to do with him? Or WWWes?

This thread is hilarious. Shows how desparate we all are for a big dude. Everyone is creaming themselves over this 2 star, but it's a guard's game.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Boone

Boone was from SF. Davis was from the northern part, too.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 25, 2010, 03:13:05 PM
Does he have issues? What does Kool Aid Perry want to do with him? Or WWWes?

This thread is hilarious. Shows how desparate we all are for a big dude. Everyone is creaming themselves over this 2 star, but it's a guard's game.

I'd say 1 or 2 people are creaming themselves.  A 2 star big is going to do a lot less for us than a 4 star guard....because it is a guard's game.

MR.HAYWARD

Quote from: bma725 on January 25, 2010, 01:17:30 PM
He's a really late bloomer.  He's not really an offensive threat at the moment.  Part of that is simply he hasn't develped the game yet, part of it is the fact that he's playing with a team where he is the 5th option offensively due to the talent around him.

No prediction on what will happen, way too early to tell what's going to happen as his name gets out there more.

bma those are not good enough reasons for chicos not  to rip the kid. 

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"Lazar Hayward. The L stands for leader, and the W stands for winner, Lazar Hayward is a winner."

MR.HAYWARD

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 25, 2010, 01:28:31 PM
Yikes.  Dude, relax.  I'm not implying anything, I just find it interesting that none of the local teams are recruiting him.  Sheesh.   He's a 2 star player, that's probably why.  If he's a late bloomer, great.  I hope he is because some of the write-ups in the past don't scream high major.

"Additionally 6'9" junior center Reggie Murphy is an intriguing long-term prospect that deserves monitoring by low-mid major programs.  Murphy has excellent size, runs the floor well and is deceptively skilled on the block."

ESPN, on the other hand, has some nice things to say about him of late. 

interest tact by the hypocrite's hypocrite (chico's)  you see if Crean were recruiting the kid he would be some undiscovered future star that only Crean's infinite basketball knowledege could see at this early stage.  Un polished greatness that such rubes as ben howland and kevin Oneill are completely oblivious too despite them being right under their noses.    you know sort of like Dwade  intersting tact by chicos all the stumble bums that crean recruited against the like of a host of mid majors were unplished diamonds.  Yet when Buzz recruits a non 4 star...it is curious??  this guy is the epitome of a loser

MR.HAYWARD

chicos i dont remeber these types of posts when we signed trend blackledge, there were no I wonder why missouri and Illionois are nto recruitng him.  Dont remeber them for carlton christion, brandon bell, james matthews and on and on.  strange.

4thAndState

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on January 25, 2010, 04:16:36 PM
interest tact by the hypocrite's hypocrite (chico's)  you see if Crean were recruiting the kid he would be some undiscovered future star that only Crean's infinite basketball knowledege could see at this early stage.  Un polished greatness that such rubes as ben howland and kevin Oneill are completely oblivious too despite them being right under their noses.    you know sort of like Dwade  intersting tact by chicos all the stumble bums that crean recruited against the like of a host of mid majors were unplished diamonds.  Yet when Buzz recruits a non 4 star...it is curious??  this guy is the epitome of a loser

I'm not sure what in the wide, wide world of sports you just wrote here.

NotAnAlum

I think Chicos is just stating the obvious.  That is when you have absolutely no size on your team other than one center who is injured all the time and another who really needs a red shirt year AND you struck out with PFs in the fall signing period you've got to dig really deep because there isn't much left.  I think Buzz and staff will eventually recruit some talented size and if there is a God eventually some of them will stay uninjured and get to play but for NEXT YEAR they MUST bring in someone who has the body to match up with these other BE teams.  This kid may not be option 1, he may not even be option anything but if option 1,2 and 3 fall through saying "Oh Well we'll get one next year" is not an option.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: 4thAndState on January 25, 2010, 04:30:11 PM
I'm not sure what in the wide, wide world of sports you just wrote here.


No one does, that's why he has more than 25 people on ignore for him.  Thanks for pasting his word, they are entertaining. 

No, the reality is if Crean was recruiting this guy, many anti-Crean people here would say he's a 2 star stiff....starting with Hayward himself.  They would say no one else is recruiting him, he's just like Hazel or Burke, etc.  That's the true hypocrisy and he's showing you exhibit A.

The fact of the matter is that he may be a diamond in the rough, who knows.  But because MU has had such difficulty getting 4 or 5 star bigs, MU has had to make a run of some flyers (Deane, KO, Crean and Buzz have ALL done it).  Some work out like Amal, some crash and burn.

I don't have a problem with him going after this kid at all.  I like his size and apparently he has good hands....and the good news is that he won't have to add 25lbs so he should be all Big East right out of the gate...right Hayward.  LOL

GOMU1104

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 25, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
I'd say 1 or 2 people are creaming themselves.  A 2 star big is going to do a lot less for us than a 4 star guard....because it is a guard's game.

I just read all 35 posts, and I dont think anyone is creaming themselves.

Once BMA explained the situation, I am pretty sure everyone understands what kind of player we are looking at.

Instead of doing some easy research, you decided to take a dig at him right out of the gate.

Buzz is in a situation right now, where for 2010, he is going to have to take a JUCO big and/or an under the radar HS big as a way of adding some depth up front. 


MUBasketball

What the hell is the issue here? He's a big who appears to be improving, and MU has offered. Obviously, everybody knows this team severely lacks size. We all know how hard it is to find good bigs, roll the dice and hope it works out.

Ohhh, better stay away since he was projected low-to-mid major by the "experts". Interesting, so was Lazar early in high school.

Could he end up being a hack? Maybe. Or he could really develop into a really solid big.

Who knows if he's coming or not, of course, but I like what I'm hearing about him.

PBRme

Wasn't Terry Reason the all time scoring HS scorer in CA when he came
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tower912

6'9,230, late bloomer.   I fail to see the downside.   Unless there is a compelling reason to NOT take him (grades, character) sign him and start coaching him up.     I think BMA has documented many times the lack of instant impact bigs left out there.   
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bma725

Quote from: PBRme on January 26, 2010, 09:30:39 AM
Wasn't Terry Reason the all time scoring HS scorer in CA when he came

He may have been, but Terry was from Fresno, which probably doesn't fit most people's definition of southern California.  In fact I've tried finding one to answer PRN's question, but all the California kids that came to MU appear to be from the mid or northern part of the state.

Michael Davis was from Chico, David Boone from San Fran, Reason from Fresno etc.  I suppose we could count Mbao since he went to Stonebridge in Simi Valley, which is definitely SoCal.

MarqBB77-03

The real answer to the question is does he have defense and rebounding skills that, with improvement, would allow him to play in the BE?
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downtown85

Quote from: MarqBB77-03 on January 26, 2010, 09:53:34 AM
The real answer to the question is does he have defense and rebounding skills that, with improvement, would allow him to play in the BE?

+1.  I trust Buzz can figure that out despite the Rosie screw up. 

MR.HAYWARD

February, 2009: Murphy is one of the most improved prospects on the west coast. He has a strong frame, solid length, and deceptive bounce. He gets most of his points filling the lane in transition and offensive put-backs. He is blessed with great hands and overall has a very soft touch...

this is his latest update by ESPN.

Considering buzz is recruitng him it's clear why Chicos is ripping him. 

damuts222

QuoteConsidering buzz is recruitng him it's clear why Chicos is ripping him.

  Get a life
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ChicosBailBonds

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Quote from: tower912 on January 26, 2010, 09:37:52 AM
6'9,230, late bloomer.   I fail to see the downside.   Unless there is a compelling reason to NOT take him (grades, character) sign him and start coaching him up.     I think BMA has documented many times the lack of instant impact bigs left out there.  

The downside would be another Roseboro.   I agree, go after the kid, but this seems like a reach like many of the others at the big position, for which previous regimes were bashed to no end.  I fail to see the difference...this is a reach as well.  It is what it is at MU, we always have to reach for bigs it seems, regardless of who is coaching. 

We have to take those chances, nothing wrong with that.  I just find it interesting how going after a 2 star now is ok when it was basically the worst thing in the world in the past.

4everwarriors

Probably more than 2 are creaning themselves over the potential signing of this cat.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

GOMU1104

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 26, 2010, 11:30:53 AM
The downside would be another Roseboro.   I agree, go after the kid, but this seems like a reach like many of the others at the big position, for which previous regimes were bashed to no end.  I fail to see the difference...this is a reach as well.  It is what it is at MU, we always have to reach for bigs it seems, regardless of who is coaching. 

We have to take those chances, nothing wrong with that.  I just find it interesting how going after a 2 star now is ok when it was basically the worst thing in the world in the past.

Roseboro had alot of coaches fooled, because of his performance at the IS8 tournament.

The reason the previous regime was bashed for the "reaches" they made, was because none of them really amounted to much...who knows what Buzz will be able to do with some of the under the radar guys he brings in?

The previous regime offered Pat Hazel a scholarship after watching him play in open gym.

LON

Quote from: GOMU1104 on January 26, 2010, 11:43:33 AM

The previous regime offered Pat Hazel a scholarship after watching him play in open gym.


I dropped in 10 3's in a row during an intramural game, too bad Crean wasn't there to see that.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: bma725 on January 26, 2010, 09:46:45 AM
He may have been, but Terry was from Fresno, which probably doesn't fit most people's definition of southern California.  In fact I've tried finding one to answer PRN's question, but all the California kids that came to MU appear to be from the mid or northern part of the state.

Michael Davis was from Chico, David Boone from San Fran, Reason from Fresno etc.  I suppose we could count Mbao since he went to Stonebridge in Simi Valley, which is definitely SoCal.

Fresno is Central California, definitely not Southern.  Thanks for the clarity on Boone. I  knew he was from Cali, just not sure where.  Mbao did play in Simi Valley, but I think he only lived out here for a year or so.  If this is wrong, please correct me. 

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