Marquette Point Guards

[Mobot]

Who was Marquette's best point guard over the last 20 years?

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

This is a good poll. I have to say, if this was a "rank 'em" poll, I would list them:

1. Hutch
2. Diener
3. Miller
4. (tie) Henry and James

This is as much aesthetic value as it performance. I just never warmed to James' style of play.

[bma725]

Hutch was a 5'9 shooting guard that played off the ball a lot once Marcus West got here.

Miller was perhaps the best pure point guard ever at MU.

[77ncaachamps]

Having seen them all (but not Henry and Diener in person), I would say Diener.

Even though he benefitted from Wade and Novak, he held his own in 04-05.

Hutch was clutch and was my favorite to watch in person.

James would have been a solid #1 if he could hit shots more consistently. He's the only PG in this list who I can recall dunked in an NCAA game.

[1990Warrior]

Hutch was a 5'9 shooting guard that played off the ball a lot once Marcus West got here.

Miller was perhaps the best pure point guard ever at MU.

Agree -  seventh place all time assist leader in NCAA history.  What more could you want?

[LastWarrior]

1) Diener
2) Miller
3) James
4) Hutchins
5) Henry

[Skatastrophy]

Agree -  seventh place all time assist leader in NCAA history.  What more could you want?

Plus Miller led us to a Sweet 16.  He's hands-down our #1 PG

[mu-rara]

Agree -  seventh place all time assist leader in NCAA history.  What more could you want?

I answered assuming PURE point guard was assumed, thus Tony Miller.  Watching him bust the Kentucky press was awe inspiring.  Another thing about Miller:  for his mediocre shooting %, he sure made a lot of big shots.

If we are looking for best combo guard who had a lot of point responsibility, I'd have to say Diener.

[4everwarriors]

Hutch was a 5'9 shooting guard that played off the ball a lot once Marcus West got here.

Miller was perhaps the best pure point guard ever at MU.

Gotta disagree. Meminger was MU's best point guard ever, not even close.

[MerrittsMustache]

Tony Miller, without a doubt.

I know it's sacrilegious to say around here, but I always felt like Travis Diener was overrated. Don't get me wrong, he was a nice player for MU but since he was a scrappy, undersized, white guy, fans (and the media) tended to view him as much better than he truly was.

[Pakuni]

1) Diener
2) Miller
3) James
4) Hutchins
5) Henry

What he said (noting, though, that I didn't pay much attention to MU hoops before about 1986 or 1987).
Hutch was a better scorer than any of them, but as mentioned earlier, he was a shooting guard in a point guard's body and, for the most part, played like one.

[Pakuni]

Tony Miller, without a doubt.

I know it's sacrilegious to say around here, but I always felt like Travis Diener was overrated. Don't get me wrong, he was a nice player for MU but since he was a scrappy, undersized, white guy, fans (and the media) tended to view him as much better than he truly was.

Diener led Conference USA in scoring and assists his senior year. Back when C-USA was a legitimate conference.
Not too bad for an overrated, scrappy, undersized white guy.
And he's had - and probably will have - a longer NBA career than any of the other guys on that list.

[lurch91]

Miller was perhaps the best pure point guard ever at MU.

+1

Miller started the modern renaissance of modern MU point guards.

[MUfan12]

I gotta go with Miller as well. That Kentucky game was a thing of beauty.

What I loved about Miller is he rarely made the game harder than it needed to be. More often than not he made the smart pass instead going for the spectacular pass.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

It comes down to Diener and Miller.

I voted for Diener but knew the poll would be close.

Pick your poison I guess, Diener lead the C-USA in scoring and assists when he had ZERO supporting cast.

Miller was a fundamentally sound amazing point guard with great IQ

[Strokin 3s]

Coming from someone who saw Miller play only once on TV, but was there for all of Diener's career at MU even I have to go with Miller.  Just look at the numbers end of story.

[dsfire]

Pick your poison I guess, Diener lead the C-USA in scoring and assists when he had ZERO supporting cast.

Uh, Novak?  He didn't exactly create his own shot that year, but if you wanted an assist, Novak was a great target.

[NavinRJohnson]

but since he was a scrappy, undersized, white guy, fans (and the media) tended to view him as much better than he truly was.

That's interesting because I always thought he was more athletic and talented than people gave him credit for because they loved the romantic/hoosiers-like story of the undersized, scrappy, white guy.

[MR.HAYWARD]

Hutch was a 5'9 shooting guard that played off the ball a lot once Marcus West got here.

Miller was perhaps the best pure point guard ever at MU.

I agree miller was the best point guard a true floor general with the strenght to play some big time defense and be very strong with the ball.  

And Hutchins was like Diener an undersized SG at PG  both however were talented enough to play the point very very well.

But i think time affects your memory a little West only really interchanged with Hutch the one year.  his freshman year Hutch primarily played as a third guard behind Piep and Miller as a Soph he played thwe pure point next to Piep.  The next year the "itty bitty commitee" came about but by that time it was almost about of necessity as the talent began to slip as we lost Mcall and Deane did not replace oneills talent on par

[MerrittsMustache]

Diener led Conference USA in scoring and assists his senior year. Back when C-USA was a legitimate conference.
Not too bad for an overrated, scrappy, undersized white guy.
And he's had - and probably will have - a longer NBA career than any of the other guys on that list.

I never said he wasn't a good player, I said that I think he was overrated. Saying that a player is "overrated" doesn't mean that I think he's terrible...it means that I don't think that he was as good as his reputation. He was on a couple of very mediocre teams and, in a strange way, I think that raised people's opinion of him because he was able to put up big numbers and because the team flopped when he was hurt.

For the record, I enjoyed watching Diener at MU and I try to follow his NBA career. I have no animosity towards him or anything. I just don't think he was as good as some other people do. That's all.

[MU62]

You guys are too young.  Dean the Dream was the greatest. 

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

With all due respect to Meminger...the poll stated "in the past 20 years."

Has there been any Meminger tributes in recent years? I don't recall a bobblehead. I'd love to see it!

[muwarrior69]

Not sure if Butch Lee played point, if he did he has my vote. Agree Meminger was great. I guess if your over 50 the world soon forgets.

[bilsu]

The poll was who was the best point guard in the last 20 years. Diener could pass, handle the ball and shoot.  He also was good in the clutch and knew how to through the alley oop pass. Miller could not shoot. There is a reason why Diener made the pros and the others did not. He is easily the best.

[4everwarriors]

You're right as to what the poll asked. However, bma stated that Miller, perhaps, was the best pure point guard ever at MU. Couldn't let that go untouched. Miller, Diener, Hutch, fill in the blank, couldn't fill Dean's jockstrap, not even close.