UW vs. MU Admission/Academic Standards

[Brewtown Andy]

While I was googling in an attempt to find something to back up my claim, I found the Trib's coverage of Fr. Wild's state of the university address from February.  17K+ applications, not the 14K I said.  Fr. Wild also said that the university was expecting a class of 1900+, so I am efforting follow up from my wife. 

[mugrad99]

Marquette's own:

[GGGG]

While I was googling in an attempt to find something to back up my claim, I found the Trib's coverage of Fr. Wild's state of the university address from February.  17K+ applications, not the 14K I said.  Fr. Wild also said that the university was expecting a class of 1900+, so I am efforting follow up from my wife. 

Part of the issue that makes it so difficult to compare these numbers is that the Common Application, and the fact that it is free to submit, means that private schools have become inundated with applications.  I am pretty sure every similar school has seen growth over the last five years - is MU's growth above and beyond the norm?  My guess is that it is...but don't know for sure.

[StillAWarrior]

Part of the issue that makes it so difficult to compare these numbers is that the Common Application, and the fact that it is free to submit, means that private schools have become inundated with applications.  I am pretty sure every similar school has seen growth over the last five years - is MU's growth above and beyond the norm?  My guess is that it is...but don't know for sure.

Back in my day, every application was different, they typically had to be hand-written or typed, and there was a fairly substantial fee for each application (I want to say $30 or $40, but I honestly don't recall).  At least for me, that limited my applications a lot (just two schools).  Being involved in the MU Alumni club here and dealing with recruiting/admissions, I know that this has totally changed.  It really is not surprising that applications are way up.

Now you kids get the hell off my lawn.

[Hards Alumni]

same, but I applied in 2000... so the process is pretty new.

[Brewtown Andy]

It was actually the MU Alumni email newsletter that my wife got the 1900+ deposits number from.

[GGGG]

It was actually the MU Alumni email newsletter that my wife got the 1900+ deposits number from.

Looking at it right now:

"More than 1,900 students and their families have made deposits to reserve spots in this fall's freshman class, exceeding the university expectations of enrolling a class of 1,850 students."

[reinko]

Looking at it right now:

"More than 1,900 students and their families have made deposits to reserve spots in this fall's freshman class, exceeding the university expectations of enrolling a class of 1,850 students."

Don't forget to factor in the more wealthy families that will send multiple tuition deposits to different schools.  It's tough to gauge, but I remember conversations with admissions staff at MU about the # of no-shows at Orientation and tt's usually in the dozens.

[akmarq]

Part of the issue that makes it so difficult to compare these numbers is that the Common Application, and the fact that it is free to submit, means that private schools have become inundated with applications. 

The Common App is not free to submit.  Schools can still force you to pay an application fee and many of them do.  They only reason I would see Common App significantly boosting private school applications is because you only have to fill it out once and can send it to multiple schools.  I suppose some students are more likely to pay a fee to send their common app to school X than to fill out and application and pay a fee to apply to school X.  I would venture, however, that this trend is not very significant.

[Brewtown Andy]

Don't forget to factor in the more wealthy families that will send multiple tuition deposits to different schools.  It's tough to gauge, but I remember conversations with admissions staff at MU about the # of no-shows at Orientation and tt's usually in the dozens.

This is true.  In the year LancesOtherNut was talking about, with freshmen staying in the Ambassador Inn for a while, everyone was moved to a MU Res Hall by the end of the first semester.

[GGGG]

Don't forget to factor in the more wealthy families that will send multiple tuition deposits to different schools.  It's tough to gauge, but I remember conversations with admissions staff at MU about the # of no-shows at Orientation and tt's usually in the dozens.

This is why orientations are now in June versus a handful of days before school starts. 

[Brewtown Andy]

This is why orientations are now in June versus a handful of days before school starts. 

That's Preview.  Freshmen still move into the res halls the Wednesday before classes start for Orientation.

[GGGG]

That's Preview.  Freshmen still move into the res halls the Wednesday before classes start for Orientation.

Ah...thanks.  Back in the day we didn't have Preview.