Season Tickets-Reseating

[pillardean]

Got my first paycheck in about four weeks.  Not much after student loans, rent and bills, but still had some:

New pair of pants:  NO

A much needed new pair of shoes: NO

A bottle of Scotch:  NO (stick with Kessler)

Groceries: PB&J for another Week

Downpayment on First Time non-student Season Tickets:  OF COURSE!!!

[LovinCrowder]

Well at least you have your priorities straight 

[Daniel]

Sensible budget

[Brewtown Andy]

Pants are overrated anyway.

[mu_hilltopper]

Props to Marquette for getting out the Points/Rank data, and updating it.  I checked on Thursday, and they'd updated it just a day before.

Made it a lot easier to figure out how to get the most bang for your B&G donation.  Instead of "how much do you want to donate" it was "how many accounts do you want to jump?"

Boy, for people with under 20 points, it makes a LOT of sense to donate a few hundred bucks.  You jump ahead of a TON of people at those lower levels with every point you go up.  The point per accounts jumped is very favorable.

Up the scale, not so much, your points/jump goes down rapidly.  But generally speaking, you jump 25-50 accounts (50-100 seats) for each $100 you donate.

[Brewtown Andy]

Props to Marquette for getting out the Points/Rank data, and updating it.  I checked on Thursday, and they'd updated it just a day before.

Made it a lot easier to figure out how to get the most bang for your B&G donation.  Instead of "how much do you want to donate" it was "how many accounts do you want to jump?"

Boy, for people with under 20 points, it makes a LOT of sense to donate a few hundred bucks.  You jump ahead of a TON of people at those lower levels with every point you go up.  The point per accounts jumped is very favorable.

Up the scale, not so much, your points/jump goes down rapidly.  But generally speaking, you jump 25-50 accounts (50-100 seats) for each $100 you donate.

I pulled out my letter from the last time we reseated, and I discovered that I managed to lose 2 points, just based on "current year donations," I imagine.

[mu_hilltopper]

Yup .. your reseating year donations depreciate.  In the year you give them, they are worth $100/1pt.  The following years that same dollar of donation is valued at $250/1 pt.

After looking at the charts .. keeping up with the Joneses means $100-200 every reseating year, as about 25-50 people will reach your level or pass you, while some above you die off.  So $100-200 keeps you about constant.

[Daniel]

Is the info just on the regular MU site, or is there a special link to look at this reseating data?

[mu_hilltopper]

http://www.gomarquette.com/tickets/reseating.html

http://www.gomarquette.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/marq/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/DeadlinePointsRank

.. But the deadline for donating was April 30th. so the ship has sailed.

[Daniel]

AH - thanks MU_hilltopper.  Appreciate the info.  I missed the ship! 

[augoman]

Yup .. your reseating year donations depreciate.  In the year you give them, they are worth $100/1pt.  The following years that same dollar of donation is valued at $250/1 pt.

After looking at the charts .. keeping up with the Joneses means $100-200 every reseating year, as about 25-50 people will reach your level or pass you, while some above you die off.  So $100-200 keeps you about constant.

unfortunately, when you get higher in the points, it takes ten times that to stay even.

[mu_hilltopper]

Yeah, I'm sure it's rough being up at those higher point levels.  I sure don't envy that kind of pressure.   

Hope you can handle it, it'd be a shame if you didn't get tickets and everyone below you moved up. 

[pillardean]

Yup .. your reseating year donations depreciate.  In the year you give them, they are worth $100/1pt.  The following years that same dollar of donation is valued at $250/1 pt.

After looking at the charts .. keeping up with the Joneses means $100-200 every reseating year, as about 25-50 people will reach your level or pass you, while some above you die off.  So $100-200 keeps you about constant.

I also believe for each $250 to your school--Arts, Business, etc--you get one point (same season) plus all the previous donations before that year you get 1 point per 500.00 I believe.

I could be mistaken but I think that is how it works.

But stated before, the time to donate has passed for the reseating this year (April 30, 2009)

[mu_hilltopper]

Here are all the rules:

http://www.gomarquette.com/bluegold-fund/priority-point-system.html

Season ticket holder

    * 4 points for each consecutive year through the 1995-96 season.
    * 2 points for each consecutive year after the 1995-96 season.
    * Maximum of 20 immediately preceding seasons worth of consecutive season ticket holding points are available to corporations, partnerships and other business entities. This change is effective as of July 1, 2006.

Blue & Gold Fund donations

    * 1 point for each consecutive year of donating to the Blue & Gold Fund, effective July 1, 2002 through June 30, 2005.
    * 2 points for each consecutive year of donating to the Blue & Gold Fund, effective July 1, 2005.
    * Minimum donation requirement: $100 per fiscal year.

Annual donations

    * For gifts to the Blue & Gold Fund in the current reseating period of two fiscal years, 1 point for every $100 donated. Effective July 1, 2005.
    * For gifts to other Marquette University funds in the current reseating period of two fiscal years, 1 point for every $250 donated. Effecive July 1, 2005.
    * Matching funds from the donor's employer, if permitted by the matching employer, are counted toward point totals.

Previous donations

    * All donations made to Marquette after July 1, 1995 will count towards your point total, at the appropriate rates depending on the funds for which they are designated.
    * For donations made to the Blue & Gold Fund after July 1, 1995 but not within the current reseating period, gifts earn 1 point for every $250 donated.
    * For donations made to other Marquette University funds after July 1, 1995 but not within the current reseating period, gifts earn 1 point for every $500 donated.

Hank Raymonds raffle

    * For purchases of raffle tickets in prior fiscal years, 1 point for every $250 purchased.
    * Effective July 1, 2001.

Alumni

    * 10 points for first degree
    * 5 points for second degree
    * 2 points per degree thereafter

Letter winner

    * 10 points for Marquette letter winners for participation and contributions to Marquette

Women's basketball season ticket holders

    * 1 point for each consecutive year of purchasing two or more women's basketball season tickets

[augoman]

Yeah, I'm sure it's rough being up at those higher point levels.  I sure don't envy that kind of pressure.   

Hope you can handle it, it'd be a shame if you didn't get tickets and everyone below you moved up. 

sooo, Topper, I guess my whinning is based on having enjoyed the Al years, and endured all the subsequent years, held on w/o hesitation through the Dukiet years, and then had to start reseating... after all that.  Now, along comes a 'neebie' with deep pockets and he (she) can knock you off with a check.  Worse;  you carry 4 tickets all those years, at no small expense, and finally work them up to the point of being good seats. Then they change the rules- and anybody that has had 1 or 2 seats all these years, can now get up to 4!  Suddenly all the people ahead of you double their seating!  When I added my second pair of seats, I wanted to put them with my first pair- Marge (God love her) Fularczek said "sure, we can combine them, but we'll have to put them with the newest pair, not the ones you've had all these years."  I know you said it in jest, but it does make one pause every 2 years and ponder the reseating process.

[mu_hilltopper]

You're right on all points.  Especially the adding seats up to 4.   

I'd add another complaint.  No transferring of seats from one generation to another.  I know it's officially prohibited, where parents hand down their prime seats (points) to their kids .. but one individual told me he got his account transferred from his dad, and indeed, has prime seats.

They need a way to give out extra credit B&G points for effort.  Naming your first born after the coach .. volunteering at the Buzz BBQ to dish out wet naps .. attending the Coppin State game .. lots of possibilities.

[BrewCity83]

They need a way to give out extra credit B&G points for effort.  Naming your first born after the coach ..

You named your kid "Tommy Hilltopper"??

[🏀]

.. attending the Coppin State game ...

+1

[mu_hilltopper]

Had I gotten B&G points for it, I would have strongly considered it.  

Thomas Ousmane Oluoma Travis Hilltopper. 

[Brewtown Andy]

I'm really considering starting to get 2 women's season tickets.  At $50 a seat on the low end, it's worth it to be spending $100 a year for a point, when you consider you get 1 point/$250 to the B&G for donations before the current reseating period.

[mu_hilltopper]

Looks like the cheapest ticket is $40/seat.  $80/pt, non-depreciating.  Not a bad idea!

[augoman]

I'd add another complaint.  No transferring of seats from one generation to another.  I know it's officially prohibited, where parents hand down their prime seats (points) to their kids .. but one individual told me he got his account transferred from his dad, and indeed, has prime seats.


I know a guy who's tickets are still in his father's name, although now deceased.  I should have done the same..., my dad started taking me to games when I was in grade school (Eddie Hickey era), with his season tickets as a faculty member.  How good would they be now?

[bilsu]

When they went to the point system, you could transfer at that time within the family. My father had ten season tickets. He got 6 seats in 1955 and added four more in 1961 or 1962 and that is when he started taking me to games. Two were transferred to my name in the 1970's. When the point system went into effect, we swapped tickets so I have my father's points going back to 1955. My father passed away in 2003. The last reseating I was 301. As of today I am ranked 253. Last week I was ranked 311, before I made my donation. I might fall a little bit yet, since I do not believe all of the donations have been recorded yet.

[mu_hilltopper]

See, that's just wrong.  It installs a royal class of people who have their tickets by birthright.  Eventually, there's no hope for anyone else, as more and more accounts are passed down forever.

I can't find the rule online, but I'm pretty sure they have a rule (now) that prohibits passing them down.  I believe the rule is broken by request, which I think is unfair.

[reinko]

See, that's just wrong.  It installs a royal class of people who have their tickets by birthright.  Eventually, there's no hope for anyone else, as more and more accounts are passed down forever.

I can't find the rule online, but I'm pretty sure they have a rule (now) that prohibits passing them down.  I believe the rule is broken by request, which I think is unfair.

Well, by your argument wouldn't the whole point system be a royal class onto itself?  I love Marquette, worked hard when I was there, but because of my job in the non-profit sector (which I chose, and yes, I could try to find my more lucrative work), I can not afford to these kinds of donations. 

But Marquette, and every other D-1 institution values the dollar above all when it comes to tickets, and I am not saying they shouldn't.  MU puts out a fantastic product, and if that means, keeping this system as is, go right ahead.  I will never make the kind of money that will allow me access to these kinds of tickets anyway  .