2009-2010 Starting 5

[Nukem2]

Whoever starts, suspect we'll see a much deeper bench next year with a more tradtional lineup of 2 Gs, 2 Fs and a C ( with a lot of 2Gs and 3 forwards and maybe sometimes a PG with 4 Fs.

[wadesworld]

I disagree though - Butler isn't enough of a shooter to play the 2. In fact, he's not a shooter at all.

Dwyane Wade wasn't much of a shooter.  He played the 2.  He did alright for himself there.

[mosarsour]

I'm pretty sure we're going to see Maymon start right away. Cadougan might get the call at the point later on in the season, but I think it will be Acker's job to lose. As far as who we plug in at the 2 and 5, I'm sure it will be a toss up between Butler and Buycks, and O'Tule and McMorrow. Both situations will depend on how the newbies fit in to the grand scheme of things.

It's going to be exciting to have some decent talent come off the bench for once.

[HoopsMalone]

1- Junior
2- Butler
3- Lazar
4- Maymon
5-McMorrow (or Riley if he comes)

Acker will get some minutes, but I think Byucks will come off and be the sub for both of the guards.

Williams will back up the forwards.

Back up center is up for grabs.

8 or 9 man rotation next year.

We are finally going to have a size advantage, and at every position in most games.

[VegasWarrior77]

"Small Ball" lineup: (Sorry but I've gotten so used to it this year.  Thanks Tanning Cream!)

1 - Cadougan / Acker
2 - Buyks / Cubillan
3 - Butler / Williams
4 - Hayward
5 - Maymonn

[mug644]

My guess is that Buzz and Acker use the remainder of this season as a bit of a trial for him as the starter next year. Given that he is the point guard during the toughest stretch of this season, I can't imagine him not starting at the beginning of next year. That said, I think it will either speak a lot about Cadougan or of Buzz's confidence in Acker if Junior is starting by the BEast season.

[chapman]

1- Junior
2- Butler
3- Lazar
4- Maymon
5-McMorrow (or Riley if he comes)

Acker will get some minutes, but I think Byucks will come off and be the sub for both of the guards.

Williams will back up the forwards.

Back up center is up for grabs.

8 or 9 man rotation next year.

We are finally going to have a size advantage, and at every position in most games.

I'll take this prediction.  I realize Buycks is high on many lists (including Dickie V's), and he might start eventually next year, but I've yet to see a Juco player that didn't need some adjustment period so it's hard for me to believe he's the one exception.  As for Acker, from the couple of games I've seen from Cadougan, I don't see how Cadougan can't beat him out given the low ceiling (no pun intended) on Acker.  As far as an expanded depth chart, I'd say something like this:

Cadougan/Acker/Buycks
Butler/Buycks/Cubillan
Hayward/Williams
Maymon/Williams/Fulce/Roseboro
McMorrow/Otule/Roseboro/Hazel

"Small Ball" lineup: (Sorry but I've gotten so used to it this year.  Thanks Tanning Cream!)

1 - Cadougan / Acker
2 - Buyks / Cubillan
3 - Butler / Williams
4 - Hayward
5 - Maymonn

I also wouldn't be surprised to see this lineup a fair amount next year.

[nola03]

I realize Buycks is high on many lists (including Dickie V's), and he might start eventually next year, but I've yet to see a Juco player that didn't need some adjustment period so it's hard for me to believe he's the one exception. 

When discussing Buycks, think of Jermaine Dixon from Pittsburgh. Hard nosed JC player who will start from the first game. Buycks is better offensively, not as good defensively.

If you haven't seen Dixon up close, take a peek on Wednesday. Of course, he'll probably shoot 3-11 with four turnovers but otherwise his game is really solid.

[jaygall31]

I think junior has to start, no question.

[Badgerhater920]

Dwyane Wade wasn't much of a shooter.  He played the 2.  He did alright for himself there.

touche. but an outlandish comparison - Butler to Wade.
Dwade took shots - midrange jumpers, etc. Jimmy takes little to no jump shots. That's why I said that; but i understand that perhaps Buzz doesn't have him play that role.

[bilsu]

Hayward and Butler are the only sure starters.

[downtown85]

touche. but an outlandish comparison - Butler to Wade.
Dwade took shots - midrange jumpers, etc. Jimmy takes little to no jump shots. That's why I said that; but i understand that perhaps Buzz doesn't have him play that role.

I agree about not playing the role of the shooter.  Here s a blurb from the Wiki.  I would say Butler is an o.k. shooter but is not currently permitted to shoot.  Next year will be a different story. 

"Butler led Tyler in scoring at 18.2 points per game while also pulling down 7.7 rebounds and dishing out 3.1 assists. He shot 54.8% overall, 42.2% from three-point range (19 for 45) and 71.3% from the free-throw line (154 for 216). Butler was a NJCAA Honorable Mention All-America selection at Tyler Junior College in 2007-08 and he helped guide the Apaches to a national ranking of 10th in the country and the program's first outright league title in 21 seasons."

I like the idea of having a 6' 6" 2 guard who can drive, shoot, and rebound.  I wonder how he will do on D versus some of the quicker 2 guards in the Big East.  From what I have seen, he will be able to hold his own. 

Next year is going to be interesting.  It will be, more than anything, a test of Buzz and his staff in terms of coaching ability. 

[muarmy81]

" Butler was a NJCAA Honorable Mention All-America selection at Tyler Junior College in 2007-08."

Isn't Buycks projected to be a 1st Team NJCAA All-American?

[mwbauer7]

I disagree though - Butler isn't enough of a shooter to play the 2. In fact, he's not a shooter at all.

I disagree. He's got a great stroke and has shown a few times he can hit the mid-range jumper. He is tremendous at knowing his role with this team, which is why we haven't seen him pull-up from beyond the arc a whole lot this year.

[Hards Alumni]

Hayward and Butler are the only sure starters.

once again, most ignorant comment of the thread.

Maymon will start for SURE.

and Butler is not close to a lock to start.

[bma725]

once again, most ignorant comment of the thread.

Maymon will start for SURE.

and Butler is not close to a lock to start.

Maymon is not a lock to be a starter, not even close.

[HoopsMalone]

After Acker, James, Diener, and Cordell Henry, it's gonna be weird to have a bulky PG, but I'm excited to see how a true Buzz team will look. 

[Hards Alumni]

Maymon is not a lock to be a starter, not even close.

who is better that will be on the roster next year?  no one.

I'm not sure he would have come to MU had Buzz not promised him SIGNIFICANT PT right out of the gate.

the kid is a beast.

[dwaderoy2004]

significant pt does not necessarily equate to starter.  butler plays more minutes than burke these days, and yet does not start.

[bma725]

who is better that will be on the roster next year?  no one.

I'm not sure he would have come to MU had Buzz not promised him SIGNIFICANT PT right out of the gate.

the kid is a beast.

Buzz doesn't promise PT.  He promises that chance to earn it, that's it.  No one is guaranteed a spot as a recruit.

The kid was a beast last year.  But Maymon's had a somewhat disappointing senior year in HS, and is not showing as well as he did as a junior and in the AAU circuit.  He made his name last year because of a super high motor and lots of hustle and heart...he hasn't shown that as much this year.

Right now, Hayward and Butler are for sure ahead of him at both the 3 and 4.  Depending upon how things play out when the freshman get here, Erik Williams could be ahead of him a the 3 as well. 

He's got to turn it up to become a starter.

[Hards Alumni]

Butler is a 2/3, Hayward is a 3 and is only playing the 4 this year because he is out of position.

Erik Williams is also a 3.

Maymon will be our starting 4, write it down now.

Maymon doesn't have to 'turn it up' to be a starter.  A lot of seniors regress because the challenge isn't there like it used to be.  If Memorial doesn't win state because of Maymon (and maybe Lomomba) I would be surprised to say the least.

[bma725]

Maymon doesn't have to 'turn it up' to be a starter.  A lot of seniors regress because the challenge isn't there like it used to be. 

Think again. 

Buzz is a 100% effort 100% of the time kind of guy.  If Maymon comes in next year with the kind of effort he's displaying now, he will not start.

You can get away with that kind of stuff in high school.  You can't in college, especially not when you're playing for Buzz.

[Big Papi]

The kid was a beast last year.  But Maymon's had a somewhat disappointing senior year in HS, and is not showing as well as he did as a junior and in the AAU circuit.  He made his name last year because of a super high motor and lots of hustle and heart...he hasn't shown that as much this year.

Right now, Hayward and Butler are for sure ahead of him at both the 3 and 4.  Depending upon how things play out when the freshman get here, Erik Williams could be ahead of him a the 3 as well. 

He's got to turn it up to become a starter.

I have no doubt that Maymon will turn it on.  He proved his competitiveness when his teams needed him.  That Madison Memorial team is just loaded with talent this year.  There are 3 division 1 stars on that team right now and no one else in the state is even close to having that much talent on one team.  I have not followed the team closely this year but typically a team tends to play sloppy when they play against overmatched opponents.  It is up to the head coach to work that out of his players and that might be the main problem.  Now that every game means something, we will see how Maymon responds.  My guess is that Maymon will give it all his all MU and he will in all likelihood earn a starting spot next year, play extensive minutes and be extremely productive.

 

[Big Papi]

Butler is a 2/3, Hayward is a 3 and is only playing the 4 this year because he is out of position.

Erik Williams is also a 3.

Maymon will be our starting 4, write it down now.

Maymon doesn't have to 'turn it up' to be a starter.  A lot of seniors regress because the challenge isn't there like it used to be.  If Memorial doesn't win state because of Maymon (and maybe Lomomba) I would be surprised to say the least.

And don't forget about Vander Blue, another great talent.  On a side note, any truth to the matter that Blue is wavering on his verbal???? 

Anyways, I have kind of written off Eric Williams as a player who might only get 5-10 minutes a game next year but his shoot blocking ability for a 3 is uncanny.  If he can defend the 2, he could get a lot of minutes.

[The Man in Gold]

If we don't land Riley, I honestly expect that we will not be starting a true center.  O'Tule & McMorrow have a lot of upside and will see significant playing time, but unless matchups dictate defending a 7 footer I think Buzz stays small and quick with his motion offense.

G - Cadougan (maybe Acker to start the year)
G- Buycks Rearrange his name and it spells Bucky's ... can we get this changed somehow
F- E. Williams
F- Hayward
F- Maymon