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Buzz tonight

Started by esotericmindguy, February 25, 2009, 08:59:54 PM

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esotericmindguy

What the eff?  Marquette goes on a 10-0 run Calhoun takes a timeout and then UCONN goes on a 16 point run.  I've watched and played enough basketball to know that when UCONN responds with 6 or even 8 straight you take a freaking timeout!!!  I really don't get it, how do you let a team rattle 16 points off without taking a timeout.  He did the same thing in the second half, CONN went on two runs of over 10 points I believe.  I'm sorry but there is no excuse. 

Another thing, MU was obviously coached to go underneath screens and they continually get burned on it.  How many teams will we allow to shoot the lights out, its happened to often to write it off as catching a hot teams.  Its really bad defense.  Towards the end MU was bringing the pick defender out and forcing the dribbler away from the bucket.

I really think those couple things could have changed the course of the game. 

StillWarriors

Buzz has done it all year and it has usually worked out, but I agree on the timeout during the UCONN runs. There's a reason the "coaching book" says you call a timeout in that situation. We did come back from those runs though I suppose, though it's a lot of work to dig out of a hole like that.

esotericmindguy

Yes, they did come back....but it should never have gotten that bad.  Whatever, probably wouldn't have made much of a difference, they were outplayed.

79Warrior

Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 25, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
Yes, they did come back....but it should never have gotten that bad.  Whatever, probably wouldn't have made much of a difference, they were outplayed.

i don't think we were outplayed as much as mismatched. With James out, the whole dynamic changes. I just don't see how we win many more games without James. We do not have the depth at all for this.

NavinRJohnson

I'll say it again, the guy James would have been guarding put up 35 points!!!!! Is there really any more to the game story than that? Seriously, in the last 4 years, has any guard scored 35 against MU?

RaleighWarrior

I think I remember three time outs during the 16-0 run

mug644

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 25, 2009, 09:24:07 PM
I'll say it again, the guy James would have been guarding put up 35 points!!!!! Is there really any more to the game story than that? Seriously, in the last 4 years, has any guard scored 35 against MU?

Yes, DJ being in there to guard Price would've changed the dynamic. Who's to say for sure that MU would've won?

Didn't David Holson (?) of Chicago State put up nearly 35 against MU this year? I recall Quintin Richardson of Depaul going off too, but maybe that was before DJ's time (though that probably would've been against McNeal).

warrior_jr

Quote from: gforce on February 25, 2009, 09:40:33 PM
I think I remember three time outs during the 16-0 run

There were two official TV timeouts.

We go on a run, get up 6, UCONN calls timeout, come back score 3, Thabeet gets 2 blocks on the first two Marquette possessions, and then 16-0 run.

I usually put my faith in what Buzz says, but there is no reason for a 16-0 run to happen with no timeouts.  When you play the #2 team in the country, maybe you should take a queue from the "coaching book" as he calls it.

RaleighWarrior

Quote from: warrior_jr on February 25, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
There were two official TV timeouts.

We go on a run, get up 6, UCONN calls timeout, come back score 3, Thabeet gets 2 blocks on the first two Marquette possessions, and then 16-0 run.

I usually put my faith in what Buzz says, but there is no reason for a 16-0 run to happen with no timeouts.  When you play the #2 team in the country, maybe you should take a queue from the "coaching book" as he calls it.

two tv timeouts and a 30 sec, that is three stoppages

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: warrior_jr on February 25, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
There were two official TV timeouts.

I usually put my faith in what Buzz says, but there is no reason for a 16-0 run to happen with no timeouts. 

In your own post you said there were two time outs. Unless of course the fact that they are TV timeouts (even though the coach knows they're coming), somehow makes them something other than a timeout. What are you talking about?

warrior_jr

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 25, 2009, 09:53:21 PM
In your own post you said there were two time outs. Unless of course the fact that they are TV timeouts (even though the coach knows they're coming), somehow makes them something other than a timeout. What are you talking about?

Gforce: Not seeing it, but I'll take your word for it.

Navin:  There was a four minute stretch between the two TV timeouts, during which UConn scored 7 points.  As soon as the second TV timeout occurred, Lazar hits a 3.  I would've liked to see that TO and 3-pt shot 3-5 pts earlier.  You?


Niv Berkowitz

i concur
His lack of timeout taking....again....was brutal.

MUBasketball

I disagree. He's coaching a veteran team...and playing at home. He knew the official timeouts were coming. What's a timeout going to do? On the road, sure. At home? Not necessary. What happened after all of UConn's runs? MU responded.

mviale

Our season ended tonight. This could have been the year.
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

MUBasketball

Quote from: mviale on February 25, 2009, 10:37:44 PM
Our season ended tonight. This could have been the year.


I hate to be doom and gloom, but I agree. Devastating loss.

bartmiller#1

Quote from: mug644 on February 25, 2009, 09:47:10 PM
Yes, DJ being in there to guard Price would've changed the dynamic. Who's to say for sure that MU would've won?

Didn't David Holson (?) of Chicago State put up nearly 35 against MU this year? I recall Quintin Richardson of Depaul going off too, but maybe that was before DJ's time (though that probably would've been against McNeal).

Richardson's last season at DePaul was '99-00.  In other words, he pre-dated Wade. 

DJ and McNeal are in the same class. 

Daniel

O've said it all year about thte time outs - I don't get it.  Al McGuire wa shte master of time outs - you don't let a team get the lead from you when you have the lead - you call a time out before that.  Many times this year that didn;t happen.  You don't let teams go on meaningful runs without trying to stop their momentum with a TO.

I don't know much about coaching, but to me, better us of the TOs available could make a diffence in a game.

MarquetteVol

Quote from: mug644 on February 25, 2009, 09:47:10 PM
Didn't David Holson (?) of Chicago State put up nearly 35 against MU this year? I recall Quintin Richardson of Depaul going off too, but maybe that was before DJ's time (though that probably would've been against McNeal).

Dude, your chronology is crazy wrong. Q Richardson left DePaul before DWade arrived at Marquette. And, McNeal and James have been here the same amount of time.